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Depending on where you live in the US there can be lots of terrestrial radio stations, or barely any. We have probably 100 stations in the NYC metro, mostly free with ads or free due to listener support.

Sirius XM radio is a little different, though. Many of the stations are human curated with high quality DJs and there are no advertisements -- plus access is via internet or satellite broadcast, a huge plus if you live or regularly drive through a part of the country that is not serviced by terrestrial radio and cellular service is spotty. The satellite audio quality is garbage, with the satellites having very thin transmission bands and pre-mp3 quality compression, and so most listeners will use an internet stream when available and only switch to satellite when in a dead zone.

Sirius has hundreds of stations with extremely narrow focus, such as a single type of music or a specific sports team. It's excellent audio content that is less repetitive than AI playlists and is worth paying for. I was hooked on the blues and outlaw country stations for a few years and only got rid of it because I found myself listening to more podcasts.
Tbh the radio over here (I call it radio but it’s not of course these days) sounds a lot like what you pay for. Here I listen to a radio station that plays music of a particular genre (or mixed). Some have adds. Some don’t.

To get it back on topic I have my favourite radio station preprogrammed in my BMW to one of the physical buttons. Or I just listen to one of my playlists in Apple Music. Easy.
 
Yes, we use SXM and can listen to the same station from NY to CA. Digital radio gets interrupted even locally by geographic hurdles. Stations will be in major cities but driving outside of major cities (most of the US is rural not cities) you lose signals. This is why SXM still exists today.
To be fair that is the same in the UK and European mainland as well. It’s the nature of the terrain. When I cross the valley I loose signal to local radios. When I’m amongst the sky scrapers I loose signal.

I rarely use radio nowadays unless there is a sporting event. But even then I just stream F1TV to my car from my phone 🤣

Or TuneIn radio, also just stream as I’ve got pan European unlimited 5G anyway. With dual SIMs in my phone.
 
I read somewhere, probably on MR the SXM subscription on the Tesla interface will cost about $12/13 per month. We’ll have to see.

You might be right...

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But since I have retrofitted the module, I think everything will still work as I have it now. I have an S module in my Y:
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Never thought to even ask this question, but do Tesla's come with AM/FM radio? Or do you have to stream all that stuff digitally?
No/Yes. My Model 3 came with included FM radio but no AM antenna and no AM stations. No software update can change that without the hardware. In many areas, however, the AM stations also broadcasts an FM counterpart so you can still access it. Some areas don’t have this redundancy and what you can listen to in one vehicle with AM reception is lost in the Tesla.

Not sure, but I think this is true for all Model 3/Y vehicles. Models S/X had AM capability, then it was taken away, and then an MCU upgrade ($2500) became available making the vehicle capable. An extra $500 was required to actually get AM working again, so a total of $3000/2855 EUR for AM radio.

Here Stateside, AM radio is nowhere near as popular as it once was even as a platform for talk radio shows. On the other hand it is where most community safety broadcasts are made though even these are more often text messages today.
 
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No/Yes. My Model 3 came with included FM radio but no AM antenna and no AM stations. No software update can change that without the hardware. In many areas, however, the AM stations also broadcasts an FM counterpart so you can still access it. Some areas don’t have this redundancy and what you can listen to in one vehicle with AM reception is lost in the Tesla.

Not sure, but I think this is true for all Model 3/Y vehicles. Models S/X had AM capability, then it was taken away, and then an MCU upgrade ($2500) became available making the vehicle capable. An extra $500 was required to actually get AM working again, so a total of $3000/2855 EUR for AM radio.

Here Stateside, AM radio is nowhere near as popular as it once was even as a platform for talk radio shows. On the other hand it is where most community safety broadcasts are made though even these are more often text messages today.
From what I understand a lot of EV's don't have AM radio because extra shielding would be required for the signal to not be impacted by the motors.
 
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From what I understand a lot of EV's don't have AM radio because extra shielding would be required for the signal to not be impacted by the motors.
I’ve heard that but not seen any credible verification. My AM radio doesn’t exist in my Tesla, but exists and works fine in my dual motor Ioniq5. Similarly in a neighbor’s Ioniq6 and another neighbor’s Genesis Electrified G70, all EVs.
 
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I’ve heard that but not seen any credible verification. My AM radio doesn’t exist in my Tesla, but exists and works fine in my dual motor Ioniq5. Similarly in a neighbor’s Ioniq6 and another neighbor’s Genesis Electrified G70, all EVs.
🤷‍♂️ I am pretty sure my Volt is missing AM radio. I know that Congress was talking about making a law requiring AM radios in all vehicles. Not sure if it ever went anywhere.
 
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Here Stateside, AM radio is nowhere near as popular as it once was even as a platform for talk radio shows. On the other hand it is where most community safety broadcasts are made though even these are more often text messages today.
Definitely emergency messages via phone masts :) In the Netherlands, we have regular testing of the alarm system every first Monday of the month. :) No AM radio required. As you can see, not an SMS message, it is an instant blocking popup. Cant miss it.

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I think my BMW has FM/AM but I’ve never checked. DAB has the same stations without all the hiss.
The advantage to Sirius XM is that you get reception from the satellites when you are outside of radio broadcast and cell tower range. Likely not important in the UK but it does happen a lot in the western US.
 
The advantage to Sirius XM is that you get reception from the satellites when you are outside of radio broadcast and cell tower range. Likely not important in the UK but it does happen a lot in the western US.
Fair enough. I occasionally have a DAB drop but not that often. Easy enough to switch to a playlist on Apple Music if it lasts more than a minute or so.

Car is set to warm up before I leave this morning. Unfortunately we are now at the stage where I need to remember to do it before I leave as well. Yesterday the car was cold and fogged up on the inside. Doesn’t take long to clear, but easier to let the car know what time I’m leaving.
 
Well I looked it up. Looks like Audi (e-tron) VW (front motors) Mercedes EQC and Tesla (front motors) are the only ones using induction motors. It also appears those vehicles don't have AM radio, so I am assuming it has something to do with the induction motors.
 
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Fair enough. I occasionally have a DAB drop but not that often. Easy enough to switch to a playlist on Apple Music if it lasts more than a minute or so.

Car is set to warm up before I leave this morning. Unfortunately we are now at the stage where I need to remember to do it before I leave as well. Yesterday the car was cold and fogged up on the inside. Doesn’t take long to clear, but easier to let the car know what time I’m leaving.
BBC stations have 98% coverage in the UK, national commercial stations about 83%, and they can automatically hold on to a signal as part of the protocol. So yes in practice, with a good car install (i.e. no dashcam next to the antenna ;) ) you won't loose it.
Well crap you are right, why did I think it didn't have it?


I wonder how many EVs with induction motors have AM radio.
Polestar doesn't have it either.
 
Tesla just released their own AppleWatch app that will eventually have the ability to act as a key (once the holiday update is out). I had Watch for Tesla, after the holiday update I will no longer have a need for that app...
 
Tesla just released their own AppleWatch app that will eventually have the ability to act as a key (once the holiday update is out). I had Watch for Tesla, after the holiday update I will no longer have a need for that app...
AW that can act as a key is useful. My AW can open the car but not easily and you still need a key on you to drive.
 
AW that can act as a key is useful. My AW can open the car but not easily and you still need a key on you to drive.

There have been 3rd party AppleWatchOS apps that already do "phone" key in Teslas (for years now). I have "Watch for Tesla" on my Ultra 1. Tesla finally has their own.

This will render a few companies' apps useless. Watch for Tesla was $19.99 purchase...

As you said, it really is nice having the watch as a key. It does mean you can accidentally leave your phone at home (which is the everyday key), but I haven't forgotten my phone yet.
 
my lease is up in 4 months starting to look at new cars. I noticed the EVs now with all the incentives are the same price or slightly more expensive than the gas models.

the 2025 Mustang and Equinox are cheaper than buying a Rogue SV which is what I lease.

my company lets me charge the car for free, the incentives are wild (10k between CT/US), Costco also gives me 1-1.5k off the car. If I get a certain car company they will give me a charger and install it. Seems like they are trying to give these things away at this point.
 
There have been 3rd party AppleWatchOS apps that already do "phone" key in Teslas (for years now). I have "Watch for Tesla" on my Ultra 1. Tesla finally has their own.

This will render a few companies' apps useless. Watch for Tesla was $19.99 purchase...

As you said, it really is nice having the watch as a key. It does mean you can accidentally leave your phone at home (which is the everyday key), but I haven't forgotten my phone yet.
For my IONIQ 5 I have the myHyundai app on the phone which allows for remote unlock/lock amongst other things, and it also has an app for the AW. When I read about the Tesla announcement I tried it out, at home, and it works. While I have an Ultra 2 which/ has cellular, I don’t have cellular enables but now I am curious if it would work with a cellular plan.
Generally I’m fine carrying the fob plus I have my phone on me at all times when I leave the house but this has now peaked my interest for certain cases …
 
my lease is up in 4 months starting to look at new cars. I noticed the EVs now with all the incentives are the same price or slightly more expensive than the gas models.

the 2025 Mustang and Equinox are cheaper than buying a Rogue SV which is what I lease.

my company lets me charge the car for free, the incentives are wild (10k between CT/US), Costco also gives me 1-1.5k off the car. If I get a certain car company they will give me a charger and install it. Seems like they are trying to give these things away at this point.
Good deals can be had for sure right now esp month/quarter/year end timing … what size/style are you looking at?
Despite sll the things you read on the internet (including MR ;)) EVs do meet a lot of requirements of “average” people’s driving needs
 
For my IONIQ 5 I have the myHyundai app on the phone which allows for remote unlock/lock amongst other things, and it also has an app for the AW. When I read about the Tesla announcement I tried it out, at home, and it works. While I have an Ultra 2 which/ has cellular, I don’t have cellular enables but now I am curious if it would work with a cellular plan.
Generally I’m fine carrying the fob plus I have my phone on me at all times when I leave the house but this has now peaked my interest for certain cases …

Tesla's and 3rd party's Tesla AW apps will require internet to control remote functions of the vehicle (as far as I know). Where it shines is, your AW can be added as an actual BT key. So, without internet access, you can simply walk up to the vehicle, open the door and drive off. But you wouldn't be able to stand next to the vehicle and open the trunk/frunk, set climate/pre-conditioning without data. At least that is how I think it is. I always have my phone, so my AW always has internet access (no cellular plan).

It's great when I walk into my garage for my TMY or the driveway for my wife's TM3, I don't need my phone or the card key to open the door and grab something. The AW key functionally is great for this.
 
Tesla's and 3rd party's Tesla AW apps will require internet to control remote functions of the vehicle (as far as I know). Where it shines is, your AW can be added as an actual BT key. So, without internet access, you can simply walk up to the vehicle, open the door and drive off. But you wouldn't be able to stand next to the vehicle and open the trunk/frunk, set climate/pre-conditioning without data. At least that is how I think it is. I always have my phone, so my AW always has internet access (no cellular plan).

It's great when I walk into my garage for my TMY or the driveway for my wife's TM3, I don't need my phone or the card key to open the door and grab something. The AW key functionally is great for this.
Yea, I’m interested how this is going to work, I assume you’ll still have to invoke the app on the watch somehow, like eg you have to double-click to launch applepay. If the watch becomes an “active listening” tool, how will that impact battery life? Be interesting to see
 
Yea, I’m interested how this is going to work, I assume you’ll still have to invoke the app on the watch somehow, like eg you have to double-click to launch applepay. If the watch becomes an “active listening” tool, how will that impact battery life? Be interesting to see

I do it right now with Watch for Tesla. It doesn't use NFC, it uses Bluetooth. So, you just walk up and open the door. Occasionally I've had to open the Watch for Tesla app to wake up the app, since Apple manages priority of apps on the AW.

If it was NFC, you would have to hold the watch up to the B-pillar like we have to with the card key to unlock the vehicle. Using Bluetooth, it is just like with our phones, you walk up and open the door.
 
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I do it right now with Watch for Tesla. It doesn't use NFC, it uses Bluetooth. So, you just walk up and open the door. Occasionally I've had to open the Watch for Tesla app to wake up the app, since Apple manages priority of apps on the AW.

If it was NFC, you would have to hold the watch up to the B-pillar like we have to with the card key to unlock the vehicle. Using Bluetooth, it is just like with our phones, you walk up and open the door.
Interesting, so on my phone I have 6 non-AW Bluetooth devices paired, but my U2 shows only the AirPods under Bluetooth. Does your watch show the Tesla under Bluetooth devices? And if so, did you have to pair them?
 
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