I’ve got an electrically assisted bicycle
It’s great. Best way of thinking about it is like always cycling with the wind in your back. 
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It’s great. Best way of thinking about it is like always cycling with the wind in your back. 
I've got one too and its great!I’ve got an electrically assisted bicycle
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New Tesla V4 chargers near my aviation flight school !
Charge cable is much longer so I don't have to worry about taking up 2 chargers for one space (V3).
Looks great but didn't work.
Charge cable is much longer so I don't have to worry about taking up 2 chargers for one space (V3).
Looks great but didn't work.
They do look cool! Did that one not work in general, or just with your Mach-E?
Perhaps I'm not seeing correctly (I have never user a Supercharger despite driving a Tesla) but wouldn't it be better to park on the right side of the pillar? Or park on the other side.
In cable length it would be quite similar to a rear parked Tesla on the space you are currently using.
Always had the idea that CCS 1 is very similar to our CCS 2 but watching in a real car with something to compare to it does look somewhat larger. Probably because of that vertical latch which CCS 2 doesn't use.
In cable length it would be quite similar to a rear parked Tesla on the space you are currently using.
Always had the idea that CCS 1 is very similar to our CCS 2 but watching in a real car with something to compare to it does look somewhat larger. Probably because of that vertical latch which CCS 2 doesn't use.
That is the "correct" spot for Tesla vehicles. We back in, and as you know the charging port is on the drivers side corner. With V3 cables being shorter, the poster would have had to park one spot over, which is the "incorrect" spot, which would take up 2 Super Chargers.
They are in quotes, because "correct" and "incorrect" are based off of Tesla vehicles. The longer V4 cables let non-Tesla vehicles park in Tesla "correct" spots and still plug in.
In the UK it’s on the passenger side on a Tesla. I wish all petrol and EV. Harding ports were in the same place. Would make life a lot easier.
When I was driving a rental or borrowing a patrol car, the nice little touch having the arrow pointing to the gas tank door side on the gas gauge is a nice touch. But having it the same across the world would be nice.
I'm happy with the Tesla being on the US driver side, as I am in the US... I get why they may not want to have a mirrored version for RHD vehicles, as that is an added cost. Just like how stick shift vehicles do not have mirrored transmissions, the shift pattern is the same for both LHD and RHD, it would significantly increase costs to have different versions.
Since they do not flip it, it technically is the same for all of their vehicles, being the LH Rear. Unfortunately, you Wrong side drive people have to walk around.
But you are right, the LHD vs RHD or Front vs Rear, and some even being front center makes it all over the place.
I have seen that historically the fuel port was supposed to be on the curb side where you would find the pump (irrelevant for several decades, multiple pump stations). I don't know if that is really the case but it does make some sense.
I prefer the fuel port on the opposite side of the driver so that you can park right next to the pump and not to have to open the door against the pump.
On an EV Tesla's placement is OKish. It just requires rear parking (something I have always preferred whatever the car) but some parking places are not perpendicular to the road and it requires some weird maneuvering. The port is also a bit too the rear but that's nitpicking.
All EVs could have AC ports on both sides (like the Taycan) as it's useful for slow chargers on the curb.
I prefer the fuel port on the opposite side of the driver so that you can park right next to the pump and not to have to open the door against the pump.
On an EV Tesla's placement is OKish. It just requires rear parking (something I have always preferred whatever the car) but some parking places are not perpendicular to the road and it requires some weird maneuvering. The port is also a bit too the rear but that's nitpicking.
All EVs could have AC ports on both sides (like the Taycan) as it's useful for slow chargers on the curb.
Front centre would bother me the most. A small prang could mean a perfectly drivable car might not be able to be charged.
I think it’s the Audi that has one each side just by the side mirrors. But only one is fast charging and the other is not.
When I had my charger installed at my hose I made sure to position it so I could reach it wherever the port was on a car. Although my BMW i3 has it rear right side which is perfect as I always reverse in to my drive and the drive is to the left of my house.
Exactly, every car has that. And when they don't have the graphic will show through the placement of the nozzle which side of the car it is on. Always makes me laugh when I see people getting out of the car to take a look whilst it is literally in front of them on the dashboard. Never ones have I not been able to fill up, not in our EV, nor in larger cars like a full size Range Rover.
As someone with houses and cars both in the UK (RHD) and on mainland Europe (LHD), and using them everywhere. It really is a none issue. Chargers, Pumps, it is all accessible and mostly multi-lane. Tesla chargers were for ahem Tesla cars so it is logical they have slightly shorter and at the 'right' side the cables.
That would be nice, but in order to bring down the costs of EVs in general, it is much cheaper to simply have one port and have longer charging cables. I do like the idea of UK style bring your own L2 cables vs. our cables as part of the L2 charger.
I just have a smart charger with a tethered 10m cable. Job done. Doesn't matter where I park it on the driveway, nor where any visitors who may want a charge park. For like GBP 70 extra it just made sense to do that and not have to park in a specific spot.
My Tesla L2 charger has a 25 ft cable, it is installed next to the garage door inside. I park one vehicle in my garage, and the other outside to the side (I can back out the garage vehicle without moving the other) as my driveway is 2.5 cars wide, and my garage is technically a 2-car garage.
I place thin scrap wood on each side of the cable and one on the other side of the door to balance the door, and close the door on the wood. No pinching of the cable. I charge the outside car first, then leave the other charging over night.
Like most UK garages, mine is full of all sorts. So no chance of getting either car in there!
I have a basement that is filled with that, and the other half of my garage is filled with snow blower, mower, some other power equipment, and my motorcycle.
I need to get rid of stuff. We have way too much stuff.
If you keep that to a AC port it's not that much expensive but, yes, it's understandable. I don't expect that ideia to go far.
We also rarely have integrated L2 cables, I think I would prefer the US system if the cables are usually on the charger. Sometimes it's annoying all that dance and it's not as clean.
The cable Tesla bundled with the car is also not very pleasant to use, it's a bit too thick and too long for most uses if you think your parking. And, yes, I understand it's a jack of all trades and I could buy another for a more practical use.
At home I have a Tesla Wall charger to install when I get around to it. It has a 7,3 meter cable (curiously, or not, 24 feet).
FIAT is launching a model with an integrated cable (a bit like a vacuum cleaner) and that's an interesting idea. Also don't expect that to go far.
I can see it being annoying, but one if the big failure points is people abusing the cable. Often, they don't coil it up or make sure it is behind the parking barrier, so people drive over them. If you brought your own cable, I think L2 chargers would last longer. I also think more business would be willing to provide L2 charging, since they wouldn't have to maintain that big potential failure point.
This is not going to last. lol Could you imagine the retraction mechanism breaking with your cable out and you now are stuck, or have to drive with your window down holding onto a cable.
No basement here. They aren’t very common in the UK. My garage is a large single so will accommodate my car plus some stuff. Most UK garages are too small to accommodate a large SUV.
I think there are regional differences. Plenty of basements here in the beautiful southeast. And garages as well. Our former Mercedes GLS and my Range Rover just fits in. 🤷♂️
A good middle ground would be indoors parking lots having the included cable and chargers on the street having just an inlet. And don't include too long cables, 2 or 3 meters is enough (6 to 10 feet more or less).
Sometimes I don't use supermarket chargers because I know I won't stay long enough to be worth the bother so having the cables can also be seen as a way to entice customers.
Yes, you can easily start to guess all sorts of potential problems. They could perhaps include a manual release (it's on the front, so it could be under the hood).
In the apartment car park (in the Netherlands) we had an VVe meeting, similar to a HOA, to install and prepare charging ports for every parking space. And as part of general sustainability also allow solar for apartments with battery storage, and spend the money to do building solar with battery storage as well for the entire building lights and lifts. With extra storage first to go to the chargers before selling it back to the grid.
So nice to see it being progressive
reminded me when I went to Australia back in 1992 ... was used to drive on the left side as I spent a lot of time in England back then, so driving on the left hand side was like 2nd nature to me, and yes, gear shifts like RHD and blinker stalk on the left hand side and wiper on the right hand side of the steering wheel.
So rented a car in Sydney, it was the local version of Opel/Vauxhall (if I remember right) but no, gears were mirrored, so 1st gear on the upper right, blinker on the right and wiper stalk on the left hand side of the steering wheel, clutch was on the left though
. This was in Dec so summer down under, and while driving through Sydney in the sunshine it was quite amusing seeing cars with their wipers on at intersections LOL ...Blimey how old are you? Those were like from the 1960s and had three speed gearboxes? Then again Australia is known for its rust free climate and has some fairly old cars going.reminded me when I went to Australia back in 1992 ... was used to drive on the left side as I spent a lot of time in England back then, so driving on the left hand side was like 2nd nature to me, and yes, gear shifts like RHD and blinker stalk on the left hand side and wiper on the right hand side of the steering wheel.
So rented a car in Sydney, it was the local version of Opel/Vauxhall (if I remember right) but no, gears were mirrored, so 1st gear on the upper right, blinker on the right and wiper stalk on the left hand side of the steering wheel, clutch was on the left though
Only different patterns production car I remember was that Mercedes 190 2.5-16 from the 1990s with a dog legged gearbox. I had the pleasure of driving one for about six months tbs and it made sense when pushing the car hard.