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The-Real-Deal82

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Sorry to hear this. Last time I got rear ended there was only minor damage. The lady was driving a Tesla.
I got rear ended in May but only minor damage to my car, made an absolute mess of the VW Polo that hit me. He was not looking at the road and was too busy watching his speedometer to make sure he was doing 20 mph apparently and hadn’t realised the traffic had stopped lol. Apparently 20mph is a safer speed and reduces accidents, according to law makers in Wales.
 

adrianlondon

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I got rear ended in May but only minor damage to my car, made an absolute mess of the VW Polo that hit me. He was not looking at the road and was too busy watching his speedometer to make sure he was doing 20 mph apparently and hadn’t realised the traffic had stopped lol. Apparently 20mph is a safer speed and reduces accidents, according to law makers in Wales.
If a driver can't quickly see their speed *and* what's in front of them, it doesn't really matter what the speed limit is to their bad driving. At least at 20mph neither of you were killed or badly injured.

Well, apart from the VW Polo, but I'm dismissing its feelings on the matter. It was probably too busy faking the mpg values to know what's going on.
 
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Apple fanboy

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I got rear ended in May but only minor damage to my car, made an absolute mess of the VW Polo that hit me. He was not looking at the road and was too busy watching his speedometer to make sure he was doing 20 mph apparently and hadn’t realised the traffic had stopped lol. Apparently 20mph is a safer speed and reduces accidents, according to law makers in Wales.
I thought the 20 mph was due tge most people in Wales still using a horse and cart? 😀
Glad you were both ok. My Golf would alert me if I needed to brake and hadn’t. Usually earlier than it needed to imo.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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If a driver can't quickly see their speed *and* what's in front of them, it doesn't really matter what the speed limit is to their bad driving. At least at 20mph neither of you were killed or badly injured.

Well, apart from the VW Polo, but I'm dismissing its feelings on the matter. It was probably too busy faking the mpg values to know what's going on.
The issue with the 20mph is it’s so abnormally slow to what drivers are used to doing, they tend to bunch up and are only a couple of metres off each others bumpers. There’s usually someone doing 15mph too so travelling in towns at the moment can be extremely frustrating. I must admit I’ve overtaken at times out of frustration and most of the time if I know there’s no cameras or police, I’ll do 30mph but most people do. It’s been an immensely unpopular measure here judging by the petition but it’s here to stay sadly.
 
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russell_314

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Not following...is that a UK thing? Regulatory requirements or limitations? Cuz FSD does all that now, at least here in CA. Very smoothly too.
I guess so because in Texas, it is also fully functional

No idea tbh. I’ve never really looked into it as a Tesla would never be a car I would consider buying.
I just noticed the screenshot you posted. Everyone has their preference on brand so that’s understandable. Tesla is not for everyone.


I believe a regulatory thing. Obviously the UK government has some reason for limiting the functionality. Safety most likely.
Some governments are more restrictive on what their citizens are allowed to do. Sometimes it is with the thought of protecting them. Just like you’ll see people here mention the Apple Watch afib feature or Airpods hearing protection not being available in their country. Usually these governments allow their citizens to have whatever it is after some further investigation. It just takes a little bit longer.
 

Apple fanboy

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I guess so because in Texas, it is also fully functional


I just noticed the screenshot you posted. Everyone has their preference on brand so that’s understandable. Tesla is not for everyone.



Some governments are more restrictive on what their citizens are allowed to do. Sometimes it is with the thought of protecting them. Just like you’ll see people here mention the Apple Watch afib feature or Airpods hearing protection not being available in their country. Usually these governments allow their citizens to have whatever it is after some further investigation. It just takes a little bit longer.
Some things might take longer. Some things might never happen. For example the Cyber truck would not pass UK regulations as it needs more rounded corners etc for pedestrian protection. Plus it’s a bit big for our roads!
 
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thettareddast

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The levels are the industry accepted definition of autonomous driving, if they don’t make sense to you, that’s fine.
Fact is what I stated above, whether or not you agree with that is up to you

Fact is Mercedes L3 cant work above 40mph, cant work outside of premapped areas, cant work with low traffic density, cant work outside of highway (lmao when do you drive below 40 on the highway), cant work in rain, cant work when theres construction, etc

Did you not know how incapable Mercedes is or did you just blindly buy into the bigger number?
 

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russell_314

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Some things might take longer. Some things might never happen. For example the Cyber truck would not pass UK regulations as it needs more rounded corners etc for pedestrian protection. Plus it’s a bit big for our roads!
I understand that. As someone from the USA I try to avoid being arrogant when it comes to what people do in other countries. I’ll let the people in the UK decide what’s good for people in the UK. I like the cybertruck on our roads, but it’s just not the vehicle for me to drive. Maybe if they made a slightly smaller version I’d consider it.


Fact is Mercedes L3 cant work above 40mph, cant work outside of premapped areas, cant work with low traffic density, cant work outside of highway (lmao when do you drive below 40 on the highway), cant work in rain, cant work when theres construction, etc

Did you not know how incapable Mercedes is or did you just blindly buy into the bigger number?
Sometimes people see something on TV and believe it without doing research. It’s kind of sad because when I was growing up, that was understandable because you didn’t have the Internet. Now you have the Internet so you can research anything and find out anything. It’s like this unlimited knowledge base. I totally agree, though. Tesla is miles ahead of anything else when it comes to self driving but other car manufacturers are catching up quickly. I’d say in five years it’s going to be much closer. If Tesla isn’t your brand of choice, just wait a few years and your favorite car brand will have some version of full self driving similar to what Tesla has
 

diamond.g

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In other news, I dunno if this was posted here, but apparently the Taycan is the best road tripping EV in North America. The crazy charging curves just kill any competition

Everytime they have a Tacan in the mix it ends up the fastest to charge for road trips. Your only concern is that you don't hit an inoperable charge station.
I understand that. As someone from the USA I try to avoid being arrogant when it comes to what people do in other countries. I’ll let the people in the UK decide what’s good for people in the UK. I like the cybertruck on our roads, but it’s just not the vehicle for me to drive. Maybe if they made a slightly smaller version I’d consider it.



Sometimes people see something on TV and believe it without doing research. It’s kind of sad because when I was growing up, that was understandable because you didn’t have the Internet. Now you have the Internet so you can research anything and find out anything. It’s like this unlimited knowledge base. I totally agree, though. Tesla is miles ahead of anything else when it comes to self driving but other car manufacturers are catching up quickly. I’d say in five years it’s going to be much closer. If Tesla isn’t your brand of choice, just wait a few years and your favorite car brand will have some version of full self driving similar to what Tesla has
I think GM was slated to be next with a system that can drive handsfree every where. It was supposed to be called Ultra Cruise but I think they scuttled that branding. No other maker is talking about having a direct FSD competitor (explicitly the city streets portion) for customer vehicles as far as I am aware.
 
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Apple fanboy

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Everytime they have a Tacan in the mix it ends up the fastest to charge for road trips. Your only concern is that you don't hit an inoperable charge station.

I think GM was slated to be next with a system that can drive handsfree every where. It was supposed to be called Ultra Cruise but I think they scuttled that branding. No other maker is talking about having a direct FSD competitor (explicitly the city streets portion) for customer vehicles as far as I am aware.
Thing is if I could have partial self driving, it would definitely be for motorways rather than city driving. That’s where you need it the most imo.

With adaptive cruise control quite common, it’s only the lane changes and driving most manufacturers need to deal with.
 
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