Who has or is planning to get an electric car / EV Talk

[Apple fanboy]

Yes. I think the point is, if the vehicle's UI automatically has your destination selected from the calendar integration, it makes not having CarPlay less of an issue. Still not perfect for the Podcast complaint that you, and @timber have. But one less issue in the cons of buying a vehicle without CarPlay/Android Auto.

Podcasts wasn’t me. I don’t listen to them. Apple Music or the radio here.

Let’s be honest nothing is perfect. Its just personal preference at the end of the day.

 

[timber]

Yeah, a lot of these things are setup for the US market. Hey Siri works really well for a lot of the things where CarPlay may be needed. Since you are using voice for a lot of these things with CarPlay anyways, it makes CarPlay less of a need.

So, Tesla's voice commands support your native dialect, but Apple doesn't? I am shocked that the Tesla UI can understand you, while Apple doesn't. I think this is more of an issue than the lack of Tesla's WhatsApp integration.

*Unless Hey Siri uses different language recognition than standard iOS...

Yes, Tesla does support PT-PT, quite well, in fact, considering it's not really a voice assistant/AI/whatever. And of course, Google supports it also.

Things are what they are, one has to decide if there is enough value and carry on. After all it also seems many Americans aren't really in love with Siri .

 

[JT2002TJ]

Yes, Tesla does support PT-PT, quite well, in fact, considering it's not really a voice assistant/AI/whatever. And of course, Google supports it also.

Things are what they are, one has to decide if there is enough value and carry on. After all it also seems many Americans aren't really in love with Siri .

Does iOS support your dialect outside of Siri?

I love Siri, I use it ALL the time. I do not really have an accent being an American native English speaker who grew up overseas. It works 99% of the time for me.

 

[JT2002TJ]

Podcasts wasn’t me. I don’t listen to them. Apple Music or the radio here.

Let’s be honest nothing is perfect. Its just personal preference at the end of the day.

Oh, sorry. I thought it was you that I had a discussion here about problems with Podcast continuity when jumping from phone to vehicle with Apple Podcasts.

Someone said that they didn't like that it wouldn't pick up where they left off and this was their major issue with the lack of CarPlay. This makes sense, since they didn't want to use Bluetooth streaming from phone.

 

[timber]

Does iOS support your dialect outside of Siri?

I love Siri, I use it ALL the time. I do not really have an accent being an American native English speaker who grew up overseas. It works 99% of the time for me.

Are you asking if the OS is translated? Yes, it is, both iOS and MacOS. There's also an official Apple representation (but no physical Apple stores).

It's worth mentioning that my dialect (as you call it ) is the equivalent to British English, it's not really an underground variation of the language.

 

[JT2002TJ]

Are you asking if the OS is translated? Yes, it is, both iOS and MacOS. There's also an official Apple representation (but no physical Apple stores).

It's worth mentioning that my dialect (as you call it ) is the equivalent to British English, it's not really an underground variation of the language.

I am asking if the regular voice assistance (when you touch the microphone in a text box) understands you. I am trying to identify if Hey Siri has different voice interpretation versus the regular iOS.

British English is a Dialect, as I understand it, just like American English (I would call the spoken word within each nation sub-dialects).

 

[cyb3rdud3]

I am mostly very happy with Tesla software and I do prefer the built in approach (EVs do favor built in for reasons I find self explanatory).

There are two main lines of improvement regarding my regular use, podcasts and messages.

If you are happy with Apple podcasts features just move along, I find it a bit under whelming regarding my needs. Perhaps Spotify is better for podcasts but I use Apple one which I consider a great deal if you like the ATV+/Music combo (I do) and I won't subscribe anything more. I end using BT for that and with Tesla mapping BT as an input source I find it OK and an almost non issue. I would still prefer to have a full featured podcast app. It's not as bad as unfortunately I'm beyond 40. Getting old mostly sucks, I would take all my wisdom and being 18 (I'm European, I don't need to be 21). One thing it sucks is near-sight and the ability to focus fast in and out so I usually prefer to set things up and then drive. Having a fully featured app with lots of small hit boxes to tinker is not that useful (or safe).

What's wrong with Messages you may ask? Well, it shows Tesla's US origin and something they should consider expanding. Messages is borderline useless in Europe and I just don't have the energy, age or (more important) clout to start a technology crusade among my contacts against WhatsApp. For some reason the car does take seamless WhatsApp calls and for some other reason some people do use that despite minutes being an almost free commodity and 5G/LTE/whatever connectivity being also almost completely ubiquitous around here. What the car doesn't do is accept WhatsApp messages or even notifications and I would really like that even as a plain notification (when I drive, I drive, but just knowing someone messaged would be nice to check after parking).

For the moment I don't mind paying Tesla Premium connectivity because it does have some cool features. I would probably keep it with CP (or the analogue AP) but it certainly weights on Tesla decision to keep it blocked.

Tesla certainly has the base system and the size to add an App Store. That would certainly the a sweet addiction.

The root of the problem is that WhatsApp is an app, centralized and not core infrastructure. Sadly it has become so popular within Europe and I really don’t get why. It’s terrible. But like you, it’s a battle that has already been lost. So I don’t fight it either. Still don’t like it though. But the issue is that it’s not standards compliant. It’s a proprietary software. Too few people seem to realize that.

 

[JT2002TJ]

The root of the problem is that WhatsApp is an app, centralized and not core infrastructure. Sadly it has become so popular within Europe and I really don’t get why. It’s terrible. But like you, it’s a battle that has already been lost. So I don’t fight it either. Still don’t like it though. But the issue is that it’s not standards compliant. It’s a proprietary software. Too few people seem to realize that.

I don't like it either, but it allows for really large file transfers between different carriers/phone brand. The ever-going green bubbles vs blue bubbles when sending messages in iOS.

I am in a group with my son's daycare. The teachers share pictures of our children at school. They have no issues with identifying what phone type the parents all have.

 

[Apple fanboy]

I don't like it either, but it allows for really large file transfers between different carriers/phone brand. The ever-going green bubbles vs blue bubbles when sending messages in iOS.

I am in a group with my son's daycare. The teachers share pictures of our children at school. They have no issues with identifying what phone type the parents all have.

Off topic I know, but am I being thick? What difference does it make if you are messaging an iPhone or other device? Why would that be any concern?

 

[cyb3rdud3]

I don't like it either, but it allows for really large file transfers between different carriers/phone brand. The ever-going green bubbles vs blue bubbles when sending messages in iOS.

I never understand why anyone would want to use a short message platform to transfer large files 🤷‍♂️

I am in a group with my son's daycare. The teachers share pictures of our children at school. They have no issues with identifying what phone type the parents all have.

Neither would it if they popped it in a shared album either Apple Photos or Google Photos can do that free of charge. . Or use RCS, but that is relatively recent.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Off topic I know, but am I being thick? What difference does it make if you are messaging an iPhone or other device? Why would that be any concern?

With normal SMS that would turn the message into an MMS. This are normally not included in the standard plans people have. And get compressed a lot, and is cumbersome to use. Nowadays we also have RCS which makes it easy.