Did they mention if the battery is actually 85kWh or what is usable is 85kWh? So far I think everyone uses a top and bottom buffer on their packs to improve longevity.
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One of my pet peeves when 100% doesn’t represent 100%. Ok battery chemistry is not exact but as good as it shouldn’t adjust. There is also an element of avoiding deep charge when dealing with batteries. But only a small buffer should be used; iirc Polestar uses something like 2-3%, similar to Tesla. Then KIA is also pretty good at like 4-5%. Buy VAG, GM and Porsche are terrible with like up to 10%.
At that sort of range does it matter? I’d need to stop well before the battery ran out.
Yeah a bottom buffer to prevent you from bricking the pack is ideal.
It only matters if you paid for a 100 kWh pack but can only use 85% of it. Also cause weight/efficiency.
On the vehicles I've had the published capacity was the usable capacity excluding the buffers. Having a bigger buffer is a good thing for long term battery health.
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Oh man, I just hated it when in our last ICE vehicle about a decade ago I’d drive until the low fuel light came on and then fully to the “E” marking. Then I STILL had about 30 miles of fuel left. Just hated that!
My last Ram with the 32 gallon tank had the sender setup for the smaller 26 gallon tank. I drove 80+ miles AFTER the E light was on towing a U-haul trailer with a 1985 MB 380SE on it…
Manufacturers do things to make it cost effective across the platform. If you get a LR battery in an SR, but can only use the SR equivalent, that is all you paid for. As long as you get the same range as other SR who cares. If you get less than other SR because of the added weight, I get being upset. The manufacture has given you a cheaper option to get into that vehicle, and saved themselves from having to stock 2 different batteries for production. If you want to use the LR equivalent of the battery, pay more for the LR…. The cost of both the LR and SR are cheaper because the manufacturer has less overhead.
The benefit to having the LR battery in a SR is, some day, the manufacturer may give you the option to unlock the full LR battery, a lot of the times it is cheaper than buying the LR. But it is an option that you don’t have to buy…
Theres quite a good bit of positive reviews on the new Elroq.
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Love Skodas creative and smart solutions that they always have.
BE MORE ELROQ
Be more flamingo. With elevated ground clearance. Be more moon. With LED Matrix beam headlights. Be more cloud. With over 560 km of range.
Love Skodas creative and smart solutions that they always have.
read what seems to be the first review of the Ioniq 9 kn there German press (sorry, paywall: https://www.spiegel.de/auto/fahrber...kommen-a-be0143f2-220c-440d-b04e-13fbe0f74bf2) ... says "misses European needs ..." in the summary - so this should be a success in the US.
Sat in one the other day when visiting a dealer. No testdrive but not sure what to make of the interior. Its a mix of materials and I do dislike shiny plastics. Exterior looks good tho.
But almost all modern cars I sit in these days just feel like a spaceship.
Had a sit in the new Alfa Romeo Junior, and for that pricetag I was surprised by home cheap it felt. The interior on the had a more premium feel than the Alfa.
I [previously] dated a woman who {owns) a '23 Niro.
Clocked much personal real-time driving experience with said Unit, and it was supreme.
I'm less-tempted by aesthetics, than actual usage.
My DD is a '11 Honda Fit, so everything new invariably feels as a Dragon capsule....
Here is a review from the Netherlands that hasn’t got a paywall. https://www.autoweek.nl/autotests/a...oter-dan-concerngenoot-ev9-maar-oogt-slanker/
In summary basically the cousin of the Kia EV9 (I rather like that one a lot) but one size up. Eh yes, that describes Europe vs the US 🤣🤣
Personally I still prefer the Kia EV9. I still like cars that size. Our Mercedes-AMG GLS class was one of my favorites for practicality with a young family and driving all across Europe. Although at the top of the car’s hierarchy a Range Rover was a way more luxurious experience. But when driving that EV9 it truly has the right, the space, the fun practical functions and if it wasn’t for shiny grey plastic everywhere it could be luxurious. I’ve not experienced the Ioniq 9. Styling is a personal taste, doesn’t do it for me, but undoubtedly it will for others. But as it’s a bigger EV9 version the fundamentals will be very good.
Oops. didn't see that reply - nobody has driven the car yet (it is very new and just launched). Some journos did get to ride in the prototypes (which were heavily disguised at the time) but that was it.
I suspect the only cars we've seen at the launch are the prototypes which are probably hand built. So wait and see.
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Oooh, are EV's getting fun and silly? Could be a fun little weekend 'track/club' car....
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Sorry. Nope. I had a '22 Niro EV on a 3 year lease and it ended 1/29/25. Model year '23 marked an exterior and interior refresh. There were LOTS of change to the interior, one not for the positive (HVAC and radio controls).
I was contemplating buying it out at end of lease but to make a long story short, I'm now leasing a '24 (yes '24) EV6 RWD Wind w/Wind technology package for 2 years. I do plan to buy it out at the end unless the residual is way too high vs. market price or the car ends up being crap (e.g. reliability problems). We'll see.
I’ve always said EV cars are NOT the final path.
Rather the battery will be replaced by fuel cell.
The other electric infrastructure in vehicle will keep evolving.
Look at all electric vehicles, battery is at the base bottom
That is an energy source, replace it with different energy source, fuel cell is the future path.
Gas in cold climates, EV in warm climates, but like I said hydrogen fuel cell is the ticket
All-Solid-State Batteries are a type of battery that do not use liquid electrolytes, eliminating the risk of leakage and gassing. Instead, they utilize solid electrolytes, which offer simple fabrication techniques, excellent packaging efficiency, and lightweight containers.
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Rather the battery will be replaced by fuel cell.
The other electric infrastructure in vehicle will keep evolving.
Look at all electric vehicles, battery is at the base bottom
That is an energy source, replace it with different energy source, fuel cell is the future path.
Gas in cold climates, EV in warm climates, but like I said hydrogen fuel cell is the ticket
All-Solid-State Batteries are a type of battery that do not use liquid electrolytes, eliminating the risk of leakage and gassing. Instead, they utilize solid electrolytes, which offer simple fabrication techniques, excellent packaging efficiency, and lightweight containers.
28MY
All-solid-state batteries | Innovation | Nissan Motor Corporation Global Website
High-quality battery technology that dramatically boosts the performance of EVs
That's all well and good about your ex...but what about the Niro?
Ha! About the same 0-60
Fuel Cells and Hydrogen production efficiency (therefore price) are just really poor compared to batteries.I’ve always said EV cars are NOT the final path.
Rather the battery will be replaced by fuel cell.
The other electric infrastructure in vehicle will keep evolving.
Look at all electric vehicles, battery is at the base bottom
That is an energy source, replace it with different energy source, fuel cell is the future path.
Gas in cold climates, EV in warm climates, but like I said hydrogen fuel cell is the ticket
All-Solid-State Batteries are a type of battery that do not use liquid electrolytes, eliminating the risk of leakage and gassing. Instead, they utilize solid electrolytes, which offer simple fabrication techniques, excellent packaging efficiency, and lightweight containers.
28MY
All-solid-state batteries | Innovation | Nissan Motor Corporation Global Website
High-quality battery technology that dramatically boosts the performance of EVs
This old VW sourced pic sums it pretty well
