This makes me sad. I would have considered Polestar but not anymore. I'm sorry, but I don't trust Chinese companies to build anything of quality or high value. Not even mentioning the potentially dangerous implications of doing business with a company that could be influenced or owned by the CCP.
Really? So you don't use Apple devices at all? I'd choose Chinese built over American built 100% of the time to be honest. Yes there are quality Chinese brands and cheap Chinese brands. It's just about doing your homework and choosing what's right for you.
Sad maybe but that's a personal reaction. Can't build quality or high value? Rubbish. They build to specs. Apple equipment is generally considered higher-than-average quality and certainly comes with high value, essentially all of which is made in China. Lots of other mfrs similarly. If you want to be really saddened, wander through a hospital or other medical facility and note how much of the medical equipment is made in China. For a real thrill, tiptoe into operating theaters and look at heart-lung machines, ventilators, etc., even the controllers for morphine pumps at bedside.
That's great. A huge improvement.
I think BMW have had programmable buttons for years. That plus the physical buttons, voice control, Apple CarPlay and idrive are all much better than a touchscreen for me.
I think you missed my last line. Yes, I do believe the "Chinese built" is crap most of the time. As you can imagine it's hard to avoid "Made in China" so I have to put up with it. But for something where safety is the main focus (like a car) there's no way I'm buying something from a Chinese owned company.
Let’s agree to differ. Made in America does not mean safer or better.
Oh sure man. I don't have any animosity against you or anyone here. We all have our own opinions for various reasons.
Interestingly until Tesla came along very few American brands did well in Europe.Oh sure man. I don't have any animosity against you or anyone here. We all have our own opinions for various reasons.
Also, this is specifically directed at China. I've had mostly American and Japanese cars but I like German cars too. Most of them I cannot afford.
My sentiment is similar. I’d much rather buy in my case an American company’s product than any other. Now the reality of manufacturing in 2025 is that many, many of the parts that go into domestic manufacturing are themselves manufactured off shore; the majority of that coming from our best of friends haha in the PRC. My elderly parents bought a Lincoln a few years back. Some parts broke on this American luxury car and they were waiting on those replacement components to arrive from …. PRC. It’s just the way modern manufacturing is and that is not going away. I will always try to purchase an American product over any other (because they’re the best, duh
) but the manufacturing machine has grown outside of any one country’s border. German cars have Chinese parts, American cars have Mexican made ones etc. All of manufacturing does this. Manufacturing is not defined by borders. The silver lining to this is that despite all the political saber rattling going on, a robust and strong, shared interdependent economic relationship between the world’s economic superpowers helps ensure a mostly peaceful world. If one side burns the other down, they screw themselves in destroying the other so we both move forward together enjoying a ideally (lol) mutually beneficial economic relationship.Well they aren’t in the USA 😇🤣 /jokeThey don't
Polestar isn’t owned by Volvo. It’s owned by Geely. Volvo is also owned by Geely.
Don’t have an iPhone or MacBook then? Such nonsense in my opinion. China is just like any other country, or any manufacturing. They build to specifications.
No it isn’t. Everything is build to a specification. The tax residency of the owners can’t possibly be a measure of quality. 🤷♂️
Safety is based on standards and regulation, not the nation where it is build.
A single stop like that is down to tires more than the type of calipers the vehicle has. With mutilple stops things would get worse for the Tesla especially since the RS7 has carbon ceramic brakes. Granted that RS7 probably cost 3 times as much as the Tesla. 🤷🏽♂️Tesla performance 🤷♂️🤣
Tesla performance 🤷♂️🤣
Tesla performance 🤷♂️🤣
I’m not sure why everything has to be pro Tesla
Don't disagree with that at all. But when you taut it as Performance then shouldn't it have decent tyres as well? Ceramic brakes perhaps less important as it won't be able to do sufficient laps to get the benefit.
Don't disagree with that, however even when you don't trust Chinese suppliers one could argue that you don't trust your own standards if products can be sold in your region that don't meet the standard. Remember it isn't just about where it gets produced, it is also about where it gets sold. That is not opinion, that is just how it works.
Perhaps it is worthwhile truly reading my posts, I've been more than complimentary about Tesla and fair. Heck even looked many a time at buying one with my own money and that is also documented in here. Considering the current situation I'm super happy that due to their own inabilities that was thwarted many a time. I'm all up for sharing features we like, but let's keep it real and that many of those pre-dated Tesla and have been available on other vehicles. The world is a big old place, and isn't it great to learn about it?
