I won't buy an EV because I could not use it during winters months, not only because of the deep snow, but the extreme cold weather. Also, when taking photos of the Auroras at night, I would have to keep the cab and seat heaters turned on (energized) as hot as they go for long periods of time (a few hours sometimes), miles away from a charger.
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Who has or is planning to get an electric car / EV Talk
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That’s a pretty extreme user case there. But I understand your situation is not the same as the majority. I guess eventually battery technology will be good enough for this to?
Either way you’ll have to keep taking those photos as they are beautiful!
Anybody else seeing this?
Fuel here is $4.50 a gallon, the highest it’s been in over 3 1/2 years, so I think the push for EV’s will become much stronger given the instability of oil prices in general, that really don’t show any signs of tapering off. I haven’t seen any progress at all with the F150 Lightning pre-order move up in the queue, [which I didn’t expect it to], but now they’re showing 2025 or later for some people who’ve already ordered as of today, which shows you that I think consumers are starting to plan long-term when they will receive the EV of their choice now, but it gives them time to think if this is something that they want to invest in long term when the time does come to finalize the order.
I Personally believe what would really help, isn’t just the ‘marketing’ for EV’s, but give the consumer the confidence that expanding in the infrastructure will make it possible and more convenient for charging capabilities.
Fuel here is $4.50 a gallon, the highest it’s been in over 3 1/2 years, so I think the push for EV’s will become much stronger given the instability of oil prices in general, that really don’t show any signs of tapering off. I haven’t seen any progress at all with the F150 Lightning pre-order move up in the queue, [which I didn’t expect it to], but now they’re showing 2025 or later for some people who’ve already ordered as of today, which shows you that I think consumers are starting to plan long-term when they will receive the EV of their choice now, but it gives them time to think if this is something that they want to invest in long term when the time does come to finalize the order.
I Personally believe what would really help, isn’t just the ‘marketing’ for EV’s, but give the consumer the confidence that expanding in the infrastructure will make it possible and more convenient for charging capabilities.
We weren't planning to get an electric car at all, we were looking to replace the BMW M2 Competition my wife had. We actually ordered, and still have on order an Audi but many months on not even a build slot. In December we had a test drive of a Polestar 2 and were sold, configured one the following day and ordered it. But then the build date moved out again as well, so I managed to grab a preconfigured one that just had gone into build. It will be delivered next week to our home.
Earlier this week we our home charging point installed. With fuel hitting 2.31EURO per litre of unleaded its good timing
To fill up my car would now cost me about 200 euros 😳🤣 and that has the same range as the polestar 2.
Earlier this week we our home charging point installed. With fuel hitting 2.31EURO per litre of unleaded its good timing
To fill up my car would now cost me about 200 euros 😳🤣 and that has the same range as the polestar 2.
Fuel is £1.55 a litre of diesel in the UK and rumoured to be going up to £1.70+ on Sunday. Some garages are charging this already in my part of Wales. With electricity also going up 50-60% from the first of April, it’s never been more expensive to own a vehicle. Bad times.
$4.50 a gallon is the stuff of dreams here. That’s so cheap! It’s over £9 ($12) now in the UK!
$4.50 a gallon is the stuff of dreams here. That’s so cheap! It’s over £9 ($12) now in the UK!
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It is crazy isn’t it? Certainly helped push me towards ordering an EV. But electric is also going to be double what we were paying at the start of the year by the end at the rate we are going. Food or fuel is now a reality for too many people.Fuel is £1.55 a litre of diesel in the UK and rumoured to be going up to £1.70+ on Sunday. Some garages are charging this already in my part of Wales. With electricity also going up 50-60% from the first of April, it’s never been more expensive to own a vehicle. Bad times.
$4.50 a gallon is the stuff of dreams here. That’s so cheap! It’s over £9 ($12) now in the UK!
Thanks. But in reality it's impossible for the electrical energy in a battery to approach the density of fuel. For example a small 4-cylinder ICE automobile can reach quite a long road-drive distance on ten gallons of fuel. A gallon of fuel weights around 6 pounds. In order to build a battery that would drive the same "small automobile" over 400-500 US miles, it would weight over 2,000 pounds. The 2022 Mini automobile is a good example relating to the EV versus ICE mile-drive range. In this case the Mini EV has a shorter drive range than the Mini that has an internal combustion engine. In this case both Mini's (Cooper) weight about the same, but the ICE one doubles the EV's driving distance.
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When the price of fuel (s) increases, it affects the US' economy in a negative manner, since all products on the market become more expensive. And not only tangible products, but also services and labor hours become more expensive.
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Do electric vehicles work at 40 below? Alaska owners say 'yes'
Electric Vehicle owners say they've been impressed with how the vehicles perform in the cold winter, but there are limitations.
www.alaskapublic.org
So I think I get a range of around 350 miles on a full tank. But I rarely drive anywhere near that far. Switching to my EV means any longer journey I undertake will involve a stop or two. But that’s okay. I will just plan around it. But I’d imagine there are fewer charging points in Alaska than I would see on my journey.
Perhaps a hybrid would work for you? But I never really looked into them as I see them as having problems. The electric part of a hybrid is compromised as you have to carry around the weight of the ICE. You also have all the traditional maintenance costs associated with an ICE.
Same here. Things are getting very tight for lots of people. Saving my petrol costs will help, but the cost of electric is skyrocketing as well. Not sure when it will get back down either (if it does).
And rising, I filled up my Range Rover yesterday for £1.74. I've managed to fix my electricity arrive until November 2023.Fuel is £1.55 a litre of diesel in the UK and rumoured to be going up to £1.70+ on Sunday. Some garages are charging this already in my part of Wales. With electricity also going up 50-60% from the first of April, it’s never been more expensive to own a vehicle. Bad times.
$4.50 a gallon is the stuff of dreams here. That’s so cheap! It’s over £9 ($12) now in the UK!
There’s still a couple of garages by me with it at £1.55 a litre but I expect them to go up today. Filled the Audi up to the max the other day and not driven far in it yet. It’s a good reason to work from home more often at least lol. I’d imagine the cost of filling a Range Rover is a similar price to a family weekend to Center Parcs?
Did you read that link you posted?Do electric vehicles work at 40 below? Alaska owners say 'yes'
Electric Vehicle owners say they've been impressed with how the vehicles perform in the cold winter, but there are limitations.
The article you linked doesn’t have any specific data whatsoever, it just gives a brief glimpse of somebody saying that they drive their car during the winter and plug it in to use for solar charging. The OP’s point was, more or less; using the EV vehicle in colder environments, (which will degrade the battery naturally), and for how long where it needs to be running electronically to keep the vehicle warm in extreme environments, and not having a Charger nearby.
I’m sitting at January 2024. And that’s not even for the ‘Pro’ version, (which is the cheapest entry-level model), which you’d probably be looking at 2025 if you were on track to actually get one if you order today in my state.
Not having a charger would be an issue
But the rest isnt. Norway is seeing one of the largest EV adoptions in Europe. Sweden and Finland going similar way as does Iceland. They arguably have more inhabited land within the Arctic circle as well (excluding Iceland ofcourse). The weather doesn’t seem to be the problem; the cars aren’t the issue. It must be the infrastructure then.
LOL you aren’t wrong there. I’m not normally one to be concerned about things like that but I’m raising an eye brow now. And actually do feel for a lot of people; the increase in cost is humongous. And not just in this area. And not everyone can deal with that, nor use it as a justification to get an electric version of the car they like. It’s a real and very serious problem.There’s still a couple of garages by me with it at £1.55 a litre but I expect them to go up today. Filled the Audi up to the max the other day and not driven far in it yet. It’s a good reason to work from home more often at least lol. I’d imagine the cost of filling a Range Rover is a similar price to a family weekend to Center Parcs?
Indeed it is. I’m fortunate in that I can afford an EV but I’m also selling my wife’s car as well as mine. So overall I’m hoping for a cost saving.
My youngest son drives a 2011 Toyota Prius (a hybrid vehicle), but my wife and I have three ICE vehicles (Toyota RAV4, Toyota corolla (4-cylinder motor, and a 13.5-gallon fuel tank), and a Silverado truck. Since I perform mundane tasks such as oil and filter changes, cabin and engine filters changes, replace wipers, tires, and so on, the maintenance cost is quite low. I only take the vehicles to the mechanic for major repairs. For example, it is time to replace the RAV4's brake pads, and also to check and "possibly" replace the transmission fluid when the odometer shows 75,000 miles this summer. I will also ask the mechanic to inspect the rear gear box oil and replace if needed. This work will be expensive since the mechanics charge somewhere around $180.00 per work-hour. Other than this, we don't spend very much on maintenance.
So my EV gateway drug was a 2012 Nissan LEAF, love it, then got a 2018 Tesla Model 3 that I love. Now looking to replace the LEAF with a Hyundai Ioniq5 Limited and awaiting that vehicle’s arrival. Yeah, I’m firmly in the EV pocket. If you wish, we can then discuss my 1964 Ford Thunderbird convertible…decidedly NOT an EV.