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So my EV gateway drug was a 2012 Nissan LEAF, love it, then got a 2018 Tesla Model 3 that I love. Now looking to replace the LEAF with a Hyundai Ioniq5 Limited and awaiting that vehicle’s arrival. Yeah, I’m firmly in the EV pocket. If you wish, we can then discuss my 1964 Ford Thunderbird convertible…decidedly NOT an EV.
2 out of 3 isn’t bad. Ioniq is okay. But a bit too big for my wife to drive. There is lots of choice now with EV’s. Going to be a lot more over the coming years.
 

cyb3rdud3

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This was delivered today. Absolutely brilliant little car. Very nice to drive and very well build. Very happy with it.

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cyb3rdud3

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Enjoy. Have you got a home charger installed? Currently waiting for a BMW i3 to be delivered and think I’ve settled on a Zappi charger. Doesn’t look like I’ll get installed in time to beat the grant cut off.
Yes. I’ve got a Hypervolt charger. If I had to do it again. I would get an Andersen or Indra Pro. The reason is that it feels too much like a prototype and it’s flaky with super cheap Chinese generic components. The WiFi doesn’t even have an antenna just a nano USB plug into a raspberry pi.

But it looks half decent and the cable managed works well. And most importantly it handles the charging well.

Try local installers. They may have availability and can do any box pending on your requirements.
 

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Well….I done did it. :D

Saying goodbye to the ‘Pitch black clearcoat’ 18’ Scat Pack (Sold it more than I paid for it with 18,000 miles, so there’s that.)

I found a 2022 Model S outside Detroit that I’m going to pick up in the next two weeks from the dealer. With all the uncertainty of pre-ordering new EV’s with how unstable the entire economy/manufacturing levels are, I would rather just buy something that’s available now and be done with it. (I also have zero patience.:D) I am a bit anxious, because this does have the yoke steering wheel, but I’ve heard that you quickly adjust, and there’s even some tutorial videos on techniques for gripping/handling.

This would be my first EV vehicle, and the F-150 Lightning wouldn’t happen until late 2023/2024 as our second EV.

Pics to follow…

Yeah buddy!
 
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cyb3rdud3

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All new S/X currently come with the yoke.
Ok, I see. That has changed then. I'm not sure about that one, some things don't need messing about with. I get it from a motorsport perspective hence the plaid, but that is decades of safe 10-to-2 hands location undone for good and safe control. I guess it is part of the strategy to get to autonomous driving but in my opinion it is too early.
 

diamond.g

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Ok, I see. That has changed then. I'm not sure about that one, some things don't need messing about with. I get it from a motorsport perspective hence the plaid, but that is decades of safe 10-to-2 hands location undone for good and safe control. I guess it is part of the strategy to get to autonomous driving but in my opinion it is too early.
There is a chance the non-NA versions will come with a round steering wheel. Some code was found in one of the FW updates that seems to indicate there is an option to do a round wheel.
 

nrvna76

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To yoke or not to yoke has been debated as much as the iPhone notch. Everybody has an opinion, I wouldn’t buy or not buy the car based on that alone. It seems fairly simple to change out with aftermarket if you don’t like it. Congrats @Relentless Power on the new ride!
 

cyb3rdud3

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To yoke or not to yoke has been debated as much as the iPhone notch. Everybody has an opinion, I wouldn’t buy or not buy the car based on that alone. It seems fairly simple to change out with aftermarket if you don’t like it. Congrats @Relentless Power on the new ride!
Sure but the iPhone notch is not safety related nor part of a driving test. I guess it’s a USA thing as a I understand that driving test standards are rather different in other areas as well like parking a car etc.
 

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To yoke or not to yoke has been debated as much as the iPhone notch. Everybody has an opinion, I wouldn’t buy or not buy the car based on that alone. It seems fairly simple to change out with aftermarket if you don’t like it. Congrats @Relentless Power on the new ride!
Thanks Bud.

Personally, I want something totally unique and polarizing, I think the steering yoke will give that type of experience. I understand it’s not for everybody, but ‘change’ isn’t always comfortable, it’s more of an adaptation phase just like anything else in this world.

I also wanted to purchase new and not used, just because I don’t have much experience in the EV sector, and I would rather avoid any unknowns with used EV’s. Plus, used EV’s sell just as much as a new EV, so the difference really is negligible and I don’t see why somebody wouldn’t purchase a new EV in that case.
 
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nrvna76

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Sure but the iPhone notch is not safety related nor part of a driving test. I guess it’s a USA thing as a I understand that driving test standards are rather different in other areas as well like parking a car etc.
I guess I’m not sure of your point.

People drive the car with a yoke. Some people would decide it’s less ‘safe’ for them based on the learning curve and either not buy the car or change it out.

A car with a yoke is not objectively less safe to every driver than one with a full wheel. Subjectively, sure, I can agree with that.
 

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Jeebus Man…

My insurance for a 2022 Tesla model S is going to cost me 3X of what my supercharged Camaro and Cobra is for comprehensive coverage. And for the record, I have an immaculate driving record, young in my 30s, with no accident history.

Now, because the Model S is a ‘high-performance car’ with limited collision repair resources, is the reason why. If I had chosen the Model 3, I’d be saving approximately ~$85 a month of a difference. (Also, not sure if it makes a difference or not, but my wife will also be on the insurance, and she has a perfect driving record.)

Oh well. You only live once.:D
 
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xraydoc

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Jeebus Man…

My insurance for a 2022 Tesla model S is going to cost me 3X of what my supercharged Camaro and Cobra is for comprehensive coverage. And for the record, I have an immaculate driving record, young in my 30s, with no accident history.

Now, because the Model S is a ‘high-performance car’ with limited collision repair resources, is the reason why. If I had chosen the Model 3, I’d be saving approximately ~$85 a month of a difference. (Also, not sure if it makes a difference or not, but my wife will also be on the insurance, and she has a perfect driving record.)

Oh well. You only live once.:D
The insurance on my M3 LR AWD is almost twice as what my wife’s car is.
 

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The insurance on my M3 LR AWD is almost twice as what my wife’s car is.
Well, I found out the adage of having a ‘perfect driving record’ doesn’t apply to Teslas, which are clearly exponentially more expensive to insure, with Tesla having direct control with their dealer networks to make body repairs.

Plus, because they are uniquely spirited vehicles due to the torque, is another reason that I suspect insurance companies are applying higher premiums, especially when you start looking at the Model S or Plaid.

This is another area with the EV market that will have to become more reasonable for the general consumer that wants to consider an EV/Tesla, however; might be thwarted by the insurance costs, let alone the rising cost of EV vehicles in general. Additionally, Tesla has raised the prices of some of various models twice in the last six months. In some aspects, we’re going backwards in the EV segment, rather than forward with infrastructure and pricing. But that maturity process probably won’t happen for another 10 years until some of these manufacturing setbacks can pan out.
 
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diamond.g

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Well, I found out the adage of having a ‘perfect driving record’ doesn’t apply to Teslas, which are clearly exponentially more expensive to insure, with Tesla having direct control with their dealer networks to make body repairs.

Plus, because they are uniquely spirited vehicles due to the torque, is another reason that I suspect insurance companies are applying higher premiums, especially when you start looking at the Model S or Plaid.

This is another area with the EV market that will have to become more reasonable for the general consumer that wants to consider an EV/Tesla, however; might be thwarted by the insurance costs, let alone the rising cost of EV vehicles in general. Additionally, Tesla has raised the prices of some of various models twice in the last six months. In some aspects, we’re going backwards in the EV segment, rather than forward with infrastructure and pricing. But that maturity process probably won’t happen for another 10 years until some of these manufacturing setbacks can pan out.
It is cause folks do stuff like this. Ruining things for the rest of us.
Tesla raising prices is to try to manage demand. They have more orders than they can make (I am hearing new orders won’t get delivered until next year now).
 

Strelok

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Shop around for insurance, progressive was the only one with reasonable prices when I bought my model 3 last year. Everyone else was 3 times more expensive for the same coverage.
 
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