iPhone SE (2016) Who is ordering the new SE 2020?

[pérignon]

We don’t know how many phones Apple already had on hand for release day. Demand is definitely there and I am glad to see that happen. To what real extent will remain a mystery until Apple provides sales numbers.

Looking forward to next Friday.

I meant more in terms of long term sales, over many years. Not just on launch day or short term.

The original SE sold very well for many years. What most people may not realize is that the new SE is actually the cheapest iPhone ever made at $399. If you account for inflation, the starting price of the original SE was $429. Additionally, given that demand for iPhones grew over the years and that people held onto their phones longer than before, one can hypothetically assume that the new SE will outsell the original SE by a significant margin.

And before anyone stipulates that the current crisis will impact sales, I would strongly counter that by saying that it will boost sales instead. People won't just suddenly stop using iPhones, no matter what the financial implications may be. The first thing they'll do is opt for a cheaper newer iPhone instead of a flagship one.

Time will tell.

 

[rui no onna]

It's still available for launch day delivery in countries like China and Australia. Any delays in the U.S. are likely due to reduced airfreight capacity.

I think it's only Apple that shows delayed delivery. AT&T and Verizon still show release day delivery and Best Buy still shows release day pickup.

 

[oVerboost]

Most options are already showing up as May or beyond on my end. I'm in the Midwest.

I'm guessing the new SE is selling out faster than predicted. Most people on this forum believed that sales would suck. I beg to differ. I think this will be the best selling iPhone yet.

UK store is still showing everything as available, I wonder if they've shipped us a lot of devices because normally the UK stores run out of devices at pre-order time.

 

[rui no onna]

The original SE sold very well for many years. What most people may not realize is that the new SE is actually the cheapest iPhone ever made at $399. If you account for inflation, the starting price of the original SE was $429.

OG iPhone 4GB was $299 within a few months from launch.

 

[JPack]

And before anyone stipulates that the current crisis will impact sales, I would strongly counter that by saying that it will boost sales instead. People won't just suddenly stop using iPhones, no matter what the financial implications may be. The first thing they'll do is opt for a cheaper newer iPhone instead of a flagship one.

No, but people can continue using their existing iPhones longer. Or they will turn to refurbished and used devices. Last year, the used smartphone market in North America grew by 18%.

 

[pérignon]

OG iPhone 4GB was $299 within a few months from launch.

Not if you adjust for inflation. Not even close. It would be more than $400 or $429. Read my post again.
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No, but people can continue using their existing iPhones longer. Or they will turn to refurbished and used devices. Last year, the used smartphone market in North America grew by 18%.

I'm saying the new SE will probably become that iPhone that they use longer. It will likely have a 2-3 year production cycle, just like the original SE did.

 

[rui no onna]

Not if you factor in inflation. Not even close. Read my post again.

2007 -> 2020: 24.5% cumulative inflation

$299 -> $372.22

 

[pérignon]

2007 -> 2020: 24.5% cumulative inflation

$299 -> $372.22

You're taking what I stated completely out of context.

The first gen iPhone was not $299 at launch. It was $499. This translates to $621 today when you account for inflation. I don't care how much the price was reduced by later on. The original point I made was that the 2020 iPhone SE is the cheapest new iPhone ever released if you account for inflation. That's a fact.

Every iPhone's price is reduced eventually.

 

[Apple_Robert]

The red 128GB delivery has now fallen back to May 11.

 

[rui no onna]

You're taking what I stated completely out of context.

The first gen iPhone was not $299 at launch. It was $499. This translates to $621 today when you account for inflation. I don't care how much the price was reduced by later on. The original point I made was that the 2020 iPhone SE is the cheapest new iPhone ever released if you account for inflation. That's a fact.

Every iPhone's price is reduced eventually.

It wasn't but the price was reduced by $200 within, what, 60 days of release? That's close enough to launch. For majority of the time the OG iPhone was in the market, it simply wasn't selling at the $499 launch price. Mind, you never mentioned launch pricing in your post.

Granted, back in those days $500 for a phone seemed like a crazy price to pay for most. Nowadays, $600-800 is considered just normal pricing.

 

[doxielover]

Only if you add them to your online cart when ordering. Apple aren't going to include headphones that cost nearly as much as the phone.

Every iPhone I ordered in the past came with wired earbuds if there is no headphone jack they don’t even provide some kind of adapter?

 

[Apple_Robert]

Every iPhone I ordered in the past came with wired earbuds if there is no headphone jack they don’t even provide some kind of adapter?

It will come with an adapter.

 

[pérignon]

It wasn't but the price was reduced by $200 within, what, 60 days of release? That's close enough to launch. For majority of the time the OG iPhone was in the market, it simply wasn't selling at the $499 launch price. Mind, you never mentioned launch pricing in your post.

Granted, back in those days $500 for a phone seemed like a crazy price to pay for most. Nowadays, $600-800 is considered just normal pricing.

No, I mentioned exactly that: "the new SE is actually the cheapest iPhone ever made at $399". How else can you interpret this if not that it's the cheapest at launch. When people talk about iPhone pricing, they go by the release price, especially when discussing a brand new phone, which this thread is about. You're arguing for the sake of arguing and making up ridiculous claims as you go along.

Nobody just randomly goes by what the lowest price of a given iPhone was during it's entire production cycle. That's absurd and impossible to determine, since there are hundreds of retailers selling iPhones at slightly different prices throughout its lifecycle.

But even if we use your analogy of $362, you're still wrong because the original iPhone SE was sold by Apple on clearance (brand new, non-refurb) in 2018 for $249 ($256 adjusted for inflation). So that means the first gen iPhone was more expensive, even after they dropped the price.

 

[Rigby]

Every iPhone I ordered in the past came with wired earbuds if there is no headphone jack they don’t even provide some kind of adapter?

The SE comes with wired earbuds with a Lightning connector (go to the preorder page and scroll down to "What's in the box").

 

[oVerboost]

Every iPhone I ordered in the past came with wired earbuds if there is no headphone jack they don’t even provide some kind of adapter?

You asked if it came with wireless earbuds... not wired earbuds. You’ll get the regular headphones.

I ordered the black 128gb my adult son who has autism is still using his 4th gen iPod. He needs a phone this will be perfect. Do these come with wireless earbuds?

 

[tonybarnaby]

It will come with an adapter.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think Apple stopped including adaptors with the 11 series. I don’t recall getting one on my 11 that I returned, or my wife’s 11 pro. I remember reading about people saying how cheap Apple was to not include it anymore.

 

[NoBoMac]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think Apple stopped including adaptors with the 11 series.

On the "What's in the box" section, showing the old 5w cube in the box.

ADD: 11 Pro shows the 18w cube in the box.

 

[tonybarnaby]

On the "What's in the box" section, showing the old 5w cube in the box.

I believe he was referring to the dongle used to connect headphones to a phone with no jack, but I could be mistaken.

 

[NoBoMac]

Yup that is correct re: no dongle.

My bad.

 

[SteveMcqueen1]

Has anyone been able to order a Verizon version from Walmart?

 

[pierino84]

My order status changed to "preparing for shipment", destination Italy. Here delivery dates have slipped to April 28-30 at about 4PM CET. I bought two of them, the first had delivery date April 24-27, then one hour later dates slipped for the second order.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think Apple stopped including adaptors with the 11 series. I don’t recall getting one on my 11 that I returned, or my wife’s 11 pro. I remember reading about people saying how cheap Apple was to not include it anymore.
Thanks for the correction. I was unaware Apple stopped including it.

@doxielover

 

[maj71303]

Preparing to ship - USA White 64GB.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Preparing to ship - USA White 64GB.

Mine is preparing as well. It will probably stay that way until Monday morning.

 

[Martyimac]

Mine is still in processing but delivery still scheduled 4/24