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Who will be keeping their iPhone 12 series this year?


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I was comparing Verizon to T-Mobile basically saying I like how with Verizon you don’t have to put down a payment where with T-Mobile you have to. Also I always put down $250-$300 to have smaller device payments.
Gotcha. I usually - but not always - add a down payment. It mostly doesn't make much difference to me. I pay the same amount in the end. Maybe in a year from now I'll give it more thought after I am start to be semi-retired and living some off savings.
 
I’ll keep my 12 pro max but still buy the 13 pro max just for the camera upgrade. I’m a serious iPhone photographer and only use ProRAW. Night mode is rumored to be much better with longer exposure time. Hopefully all cameras will get new sensors. Hopefully larger sensors on the 2.5 & 0.5 cameras.
 
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I’m amazed how many people will upgrade purely because a phone is released in a certain colour. I can’t quite get my head around that one to be honest. The financial loss and the hassle for me would make that undesirable, but then I think many here are on a different level to the average consumer. Some make owning a phone their sole financial purchase of the year, so perhaps it’s not as silly as it first sounds.

My iPhone 12 on the other hand still feels new to me and I got it on launch day. I’ll probably upgrade at the end of my contract (2 years), depending on whether the iPhone 14 or whatever offers enough of a difference.
 
I’ll keep my 12 pro max but still buy the 13 pro max just for the camera upgrade. I’m a serious iPhone photographer and only use ProRAW. Night mode is rumored to be much better with longer exposure time. Hopefully all cameras will get new sensors. Hopefully larger sensors on the 2.5 & 0.5 cameras.

iPhone pictures always look great until you start zooming in or cropping. All good for social media posts and small prints but the lenses on these phones let them down as they naturally would being so small. For the money you’d spend on an iPhone 13 Pro Max, I’d get a decent camera mirror less camera. You’d get much better pictures that’s for sure and the technology wouldn’t be outdated on an annual basis either.
 
After I saw the models of iphone 13 posted by some tech media, i guess i will keep my white iphone 12 . The iPhone13 series is expected to support the Always On Display(AOD) ,cant wait to see Apple's"innovate", I hope to see a different AOD.
 
iPhone pictures always look great until you start zooming in or cropping. All good for social media posts and small prints but the lenses on these phones let them down as they naturally would being so small. For the money you’d spend on an iPhone 13 Pro Max, I’d get a decent camera mirror less camera. You’d get much better pictures that’s for sure and the technology wouldn’t be outdated on an annual basis either.
You’ll be surprised at how good the iPhone 12 Pro Max image files look on a computer screen. Better than just for social media. You have to know what you are doing as a photographer, you have to train yourself to think like the camera sees. Then you’ll be a great photographer. I started at the age of 18, I’m 51 now..

When Apple ProRAW was introduced, it became a game changer in iPhone photography along with the LIDAR sensor. Sure iPhones without this feature produce decent to really nice jpeg images if you pay attention to your highlights and not blow them out. The red channel in the histogram usually gets over exposed first. Once you blow the highlights on a jpeg image, the detail in those highlights can’t be recovered.

This past winter I took a photo of a frost covered oak tree leaf, a large one and had it printed to a 16x20, it looks fantastic. this was with the 1x or wide camera with the new 47% larger sensor compared to the 11 pro max. So don’t be fooled or have the mindset that iPhone photos are only good for small prints & social media. I took several raw files from my iPhone 12 Pro Max and loaded them into Lightroom on my desktop. The images were fully edited to where it looked it’s best, sharpening, noise reduction (if needed), clarity, highlights, etc, etc. after the image was complexly edited, I loaded those settings on my iPhone in Lightroom mobile for the same images and created a preset. Now all of my shots from the iPhone look great on a computer screen using those settings. I use a 5k iMac. Once you apply the correct exposure to the scene you are about to shoot, the RAW image can then be properly edited.

As for a decent camera, I have that covered. Two Sony A7RIII 43mp camera bodies with Sony G Master lenses and Sigma Art lenses, plus studio strobes, reflectors, the whole nine yards. I can produce images just as good as any 12mp camera using my iPhone. I know there isn’t any aperture settings on the iPhone cameras nor does the iPhone produce the same bokeh as a $1700 lens due to the small sensor, but for landscape, cityscape, some portraits, & even natural light still-life, the iPhone holds its own. I know it’s limitations and shoot accordingly. I don’t add or put limits on the iPhone, it’s a powerful camera. For those that just casually shoot photos with any iPhone and don’t compose, or make sure the exposure is properly set might end up with a noisy image not worth using anywhere but social media. For those of us who are professional or well trained photographers like myself, can produce excellent results using an iPhone.

Here is the leaf image taken in ProRAW on the iPhone 12 Pro Max that was printed 16x20

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I only upgraded to iPhone 12 a couple of weeks ago and I will be keeping it for another year, if not longer.

Really happy with it and apart from a few new additions, perhaps, in terms of hardware I don’t feel that I would need to rush out for iPhone 13.
 
Do you think there is a possibility that the "always on display" function will also be brought to devices with OLED screens such as the iPhone 12? Or will it be a feature only present on the 13?
 
Do you think there is a possibility that the "always on display" function will also be brought to devices with OLED screens such as the iPhone 12? Or will it be a feature only present on the 13?
I think the rumours are that they'll be using that LTPO tech in the new 13 devices so I bet they'll lean on that as a reason to not provide it to the other OLED devices.
 
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You’ll be surprised at how good the iPhone 12 Pro Max image files look on a computer screen. Better than just for social media. You have to know what you are doing as a photographer, you have to train yourself to think like the camera sees. Then you’ll be a great photographer. I started at the age of 18, I’m 51 now..

When Apple ProRAW was introduced, it became a game changer in iPhone photography along with the LIDAR sensor. Sure iPhones without this feature produce decent to really nice jpeg images if you pay attention to your highlights and not blow them out. The red channel in the histogram usually gets over exposed first. Once you blow the highlights on a jpeg image, the detail in those highlights can’t be recovered.

This past winter I took a photo of a frost covered oak tree leaf, a large one and had it printed to a 16x20, it looks fantastic. this was with the 1x or wide camera with the new 47% larger sensor compared to the 11 pro max. So don’t be fooled or have the mindset that iPhone photos are only good for small prints & social media. I took several raw files from my iPhone 12 Pro Max and loaded them into Lightroom on my desktop. The images were fully edited to where it looked it’s best, sharpening, noise reduction (if needed), clarity, highlights, etc, etc. after the image was complexly edited, I loaded those settings on my iPhone in Lightroom mobile for the same images and created a preset. Now all of my shots from the iPhone look great on a computer screen using those settings. I use a 5k iMac. Once you apply the correct exposure to the scene you are about to shoot, the RAW image can then be properly edited.

As for a decent camera, I have that covered. Two Sony A7RIII 43mp camera bodies with Sony G Master lenses and Sigma Art lenses, plus studio strobes, reflectors, the whole nine yards. I can produce images just as good as any 12mp camera using my iPhone. I know there isn’t any aperture settings on the iPhone cameras nor does the iPhone produce the same bokeh as a $1700 lens due to the small sensor, but for landscape, cityscape, some portraits, & even natural light still-life, the iPhone holds its own. I know it’s limitations and shoot accordingly. I don’t add or put limits on the iPhone, it’s a powerful camera. For those that just casually shoot photos with any iPhone and don’t compose, or make sure the exposure is properly set might end up with a noisy image not worth using anywhere but social media. For those of us who are professional or well trained photographers like myself, can produce excellent results using an iPhone.

Here is the leaf image taken in ProRAW on the iPhone 12 Pro Max that was printed 16x20

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Cool to see a fellow tog know their stuff
 
Holy crap unless you’re loaded save your money lol
lol everyone always freaks out about my phones! Y’all have no idea how frugal and spare the rest of my life is even though yeah, at this late stage of life we are finally financially comfortable. That money gets spent mostly on raising the family and taking care of some members of extended family who, for various reasons, need help now and again. And we believe in giving back to the community, too.

I think you’d actually be shocked to see how old and hand me down and bargain basement discount most everything else I own is. For example I’ve driven one car exclusively for 23 years, I’ve owned it for 29. We’re getting it fixed up so I can keep on driving it. My other vehicle for the last 6 years is a hand me down truck from my husband that he bought used. And my dad gave me a car that’s a little over 10 years old that my newly minted teenaged driver is going to take over soon.

So, I’m actually a lower maintenance gal than my smartphone collection would indicate. That’s my one big splurge in life and even that, I’ve only been doing since about 2016. I’m pretty sure I won’t be doing this once we’re living on retirement income with college tuition to pay. So I’m going to have fun with this while I can.

All my other tech is kept and used until it barely works. I don’t upgrade my Apple Watches annually, either.
 
lol everyone always freaks out about my phones! Y’all have no idea how frugal and spare the rest of my life is even though yeah, at this late stage of life we are finally financially comfortable. That money gets spent mostly on raising the family and taking care of some members of extended family who, for various reasons, need help now and again. And we believe in giving back to the community, too.

I think you’d actually be shocked to see how old and hand me down and bargain basement discount most everything else I own is. For example I’ve driven one car exclusively for 23 years, I’ve owned it for 29. We’re getting it fixed up so I can keep on driving it. My other vehicle for the last 6 years is a hand me down truck from my husband that he bought used. And my dad gave me a car that’s a little over 10 years old that my newly minted teenaged driver is going to take over soon.

So, I’m actually a lower maintenance gal than my smartphone collection would indicate. That’s my one big splurge in life and even that, I’ve only been doing since about 2016. I’m pretty sure I won’t be doing this once we’re living on retirement income with college tuition to pay. So I’m going to have fun with this while I can.

All my other tech is kept and used until it barely works. I don’t upgrade my Apple Watches annually, either.

I’m a bargain shopper and always try not to pay retail price except my iPhone d products. I even do cash back all year and add that to my Christmas fund for my kids. I do 1 big purchase a year and that’s either my Apple Watch, iPhone or iPad. I’m saving up for a MacBook now. I bought a new truck this year, so I may or may not upgrade my watch this year.
 
I'm giving some thought of keeping the XR this year. I was thinking about upgrading, but the more I think about it the more I don't really see the need. I would like to see the price of the 12 come down before I think about getting on. It's a little high for me at the moment.
 
I'm giving some thought of keeping the XR this year. I was thinking about upgrading, but the more I think about it the more I don't really see the need. I would like to see the price of the 12 come down before I think about getting on. It's a little high for me at the moment.
The XR is a fantastic phone. My eldest passed hers down to the next kid down, lol. It’s going strong despite having been dropped down concrete stairs and living in a backpack, because I made sure to put a Caudabe case and display protector on it. I had an XR myself. I have often missed it. It was bright yellow though and I had a love-hate relationship with that color.

The 12 camera IS better in low light and I think the modem is better, too. Other than that, well I’m not sure anyone need rush out of the XR.

So it’s an upgrade, but not so much so that if you want to hold out for discounts, you’re holding onto a badly dated product.

Hold out for a few more months for the discounts on 12’s and you’ll have yourself a nice new phone with similar charm to the XR series, but some decent improvements.
 
For me, much will depend on how Apple prices out the new 13 iPhone here in Canada.

With the stronger Cdn currency, it might be cheaper to buy a new 13 than an old 12.
 
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I’ll be keeping my XS Max for a fourth year. It’s not that every phone since hasn’t been better, it’s that this is still a great phone.

I used to upgrade every year, but with XS Max, the iPhone reached a product maturity level where that just isn’t necessary. Annual upgrades are typically incremental, not revolutionary, and the cost is too high to justify replacing something that works just fine with a slightly better version of the same thing.

There does come a point where an upgrade is attractive but that won’t be this year.
 
… I took several raw files from my iPhone 12 Pro Max and loaded them into Lightroom on my desktop. The images were fully edited to where it looked it’s best, sharpening, noise reduction (if needed), clarity, highlights, etc, etc. after the image was complexly edited, I loaded those settings on my iPhone in Lightroom mobile for the same images and created a preset. Now all of my shots from the iPhone look great on a computer screen using those settings.



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Umm, are you saying you’re able to upload settings you used in Lightroom, to your iPhone 12 Pro and then all pictures you take have the settings you’ve optimized for?!! 😲😎

that would be sick! How do you do that? Why didn’t Apple advertise this?
 
I am on a yearly iPhone upgrade system and have been since my first iPhone which was the 6 Plus. I only like the big iPhones. There are too many year-over-year changes to miss on. Even when others lament no change, there is change they don't realize, frankly due to the fact they haven't compared them in person which makes their stance null and void.

I don't do Apple's upgrade program, I just do the trade in method and eat the difference, which usually isn't that much. And since I'm always trading in a year old phone or less, it's not a problem as I always get max trade in value for them.

I'm happy to go two, three, even four versions between new iPads, Macs, and Apple Watches. But not iPhones!
you sound like me! This year though I’m saving for a wedding, and just bought a new house so let’s see how much leeway my fiancée gives me lol. Already ordered the new Nintendo OLED, and upgraded iPads this year… also want to grab a MacBook this year.. I feel this may be my first year I skip since the 3G..


then again if I skip… It will be forced on me haha
 
you sound like me! This year though I’m saving for a wedding, and just bought a new house so let’s see how much leeway my fiancée gives me lol. Already ordered the new Nintendo OLED, and upgraded iPads this year… also want to grab a MacBook this year.. I feel this may be my first year I skip since the 3G..


then again if I skip… It will be forced on me haha
Upgrade lol, don’t break the streak ✅

Keep going 🏁
 
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Umm, are you saying you’re able to upload settings you used in Lightroom, to your iPhone 12 Pro and then all pictures you take have the settings you’ve optimized for?!! 😲😎

that would be sick! How do you do that? Why didn’t Apple advertise this?
What I did was copy those settings manually by adjusting the sliders under each category: light, color, sharpness, optics, etc. while looking at Lightroom on my desktop. I just made the same adjustments on my iPhone as I did on the desktop. Sorry if that confused anyone. I then load the raw files into Lightroom mobile and use the preset I created for the photos and adjust as needed. I wish there was a way to share presets from Lightroom.
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