Why don´t we just call it iFlop

[BobHail]

I'm about to blow a gasket...

You're a moron...people don't want the iPhone because it's EXPENSIVE. THE MONTHLY BILLS ARE EXPENSIVE! People don't want to pay that much...the people that do are 'rich'...now with the iPad, they don't have to be attached to a cellular network...I never said they did. It's not realistic to really add a camera to something you hold right in front of your face for 10-15 minutes during a video call. Can you do video conferencing with the iphone? No. Again, the iPad is NOT a phone, nor a computer...stop comparing them.
If you REALLY want to use skype, use you're macbook or imac...futhermore, no one is gonna replace their macbook or imac with the iPad...it's not the point of it.
You're USELESS. FIND A HOBBY.

Maybe my hobby is bashing products that are absolutely worthless?


I don´t know where you get your iPhone monthly plans, but mine is really cheap! 9,90€ for 3MB/s super fast unlimited 3G.

The iPad is actually more expensive than the iPhone, if you really think about it.

iPhone is not just a phone either. And it´s really easy to compare the iPad to iPhone, because it is one. Just without the useful serious features. With iPad your just left with the "toy features".

And I´m sure you have some phone with monthly plans. So your argument is really stupid.

Why is it hard to hold the iPad 10-15min in front of your face? Your gonna do that anyways for many hours just using it.

And why is it unrealistic to add a camera? I´m sure the next version will have one actually. So why unrealistic?

Again your arguments have no point, you are just making yourself look stupid.

 

[Hankster]

well, then the sites that you visit need to catch up with technology and start using the HTML5 standard as it is proven to be better than flash!

That's not a logical explanation on how, in today's world, the iPad gives the user the "best web browsing experience". You're the one saying I was "spamming". I'm not. Lets debate:

Again: How does the iPad give the user a better browsing experience if that user is limited to what sites he/she can visit?

 

[Illuminated]

so please explain the Newton and Apple TV, if Steve "wouldn't put time and money...".

Apple TV if I'm not mistaken is still selling pretty well...at least well enough that Apple isn't losing money. So your argument about the Apple TV is null and void.

...Apple released the Newton during a time when technology wasn't reigning supreme...also commercialization of the newton. They couldn't get the word out about it...but where did the idea of the iPhone come from? The Newton. The iPod Touch? The Newton. The iPod? The Newton...Steve Jobs deff. had something back then, they just had no way of getting the word out efficiently, and Apple wasn't the same company back then as it is now.

So thank Jobs for creating the Newton, albiet not a big seller, for the iPhone...

I rest my case.

 

[GaresTaylan]

Maybe people like to bitch generally, but I don´t. I only do it when there´s something truly worth bitching about! And this would be one of those times. Big difference.

You feel that the fact that the iPad does not suit your specific needs and therefore you do not care for it nor see the need to own one... as something that is "truly worth bitching about?"

You need to get a life.

 

[ThE.MeSsEnGeR]

Maybe my hobby is bashing products that are absolutely worthless?


I don´t know where you get your iPhone monthly plans, but mine is really cheap! 9,90€ for 3MB/s super fast unlimited 3G.

The iPad is actually more expensive than the iPhone, if you really think about it.

iPhone is not just a phone either. And it´s really easy to compare the iPad to iPhone, because it is one. Just without the useful serious features. With iPad your just left with the "toy features".

And I´m sure you have some phone with monthly plans. So your argument is really stupid.

Why is it hard to hold the iPad 10-15min in front of your face? Your gonna do that anyways for many hours just using it.

And why is it unrealistic to add camera? I´m sure the next version will have one actually. So why unrealistic?

Again your arguments have no point, you are just making yourself look stupid.

no comment . . . . . .

 

[BobHail]

You feel that the fact that the iPad does not suit your specific needs and therefore you do not care for it nor see the need to own one... as something that is "truly worth bitching about?"

You need to get a life.

Well it doesn´t suite just my needs, most of people are saying the same exact thing than me and won´t be getting one.

I have a life thank you very much, a good one!

 

[surferfromuk]

Let me get this straight. You're stating the iPad gives the user a better browsing experience because the web is shown on a larger screen and you can view it from multiple mobile angles (sitting, standing, laying down, etc).

That's all true.

But, what if half the sites I visit can't be viewed on the iPad? What happens when I only see partial content on CNET.com, CNN, Washington Post, and lets not forget Hulu.com which will render nothing?

How does the iPad give the user a better browsing experience if that user is limited to what sites he/she can visit? Please explain.

If Hulu is so great why don't they make an iPhone app ?

 

[dave1812dave]

If Hulu is so great why don't they make an iPhone app ?

that's some logic you just applied--you seem to think the entire WORLD revolves around other companies making things compatible with the limited features of the iphone OS. Get real.

 

[ymarker]

mad tv spoof from 2005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs

 

[BobHail]

no comment . . . . . .

You really are quite the Apple kool-aid drinker, aren´t you? Why don´t you take the blinders off?

(And this is coming from a fan of Apple products).

 

[Illuminated]

You really are quite the Apple kool-aid drinker, aren´t you? Why don´t you take the blinders off?

(And this is coming from a fan of Apple products).

Ahahahahahaha....what are you a politician?

 

[BobHail]

Ahahahahahaha....what are you a politician?

Hehehe!

Seriously I love many Apple products, but the iPad is just useless. I do hope it will be better in the future.

 

[Illuminated]

Hehehe!

Seriously I love many Apple products, but the iPad is just useless. I do hope it will be better in the future.

maybe not for you, but for others, many others, it might be of great use. You're not the only Apple customer.

 

[surferfromuk]

that's some logic you just applied--you seem to think the entire WORLD revolves around other companies making things compatible with the limited features of the iphone OS. Get real.

140,000 other far lesser (and far greater) companies managed to give those iPhone users a superior experience - and both parties are enjoying the benefits.

Apple at least have a valid set of reasons for trying to a) force Adobe to make a better flash or b) rid the internet of it's pestilence

What good reason does Hulu have for not making an iPhone app?

 

[ThE.MeSsEnGeR]

You really are quite the Apple kool-aid drinker, aren´t you? Why don´t you take the blinders off?

(And this is coming from a fan of Apple products).

I don't even have blinders on, btw. Apple is not perfect. I see flaws in so many things it does, and I'm proud to be a fan of a company that addresses those flaws in very strategic and good ways.
from now until the end of times Apple will always have flaws, but not MS-flaws, of course... the thing that makes Apple shine where others don't is their originality, uniqueness and ability to deliver great products!

(And this is coming from a fan of Apple products).

 

[BobHail]

I don't even have blinders on, btw. Apple is not perfect. I see flaws in so many things it does, and I'm proud to be a fan of a company that addresses those flaws in very strategic and good ways.
from now until the end of times Apple will always have flaws, but not MS-flaws, of course... the thing that makes Apple shine where others don't is their originality, uniqueness and ability to deliver great products!

(And this is coming from a fan of Apple products).

OK, fair enough.

 

[sushi]

I find it interesting to read the comments by the nay-sayers.

Reminds me when the first iPod was introduced.

Of course time will tell, but I bet the iPad is a resounding success -- better than even Apple expects.

And with future upgrades/models, the possibilities are endless.

 

[Etnies419]

Let me get this straight. You're stating the iPad gives the user a better browsing experience because the web is shown on a larger screen and you can view it from multiple mobile angles (sitting, standing, laying down, etc).

That's all true.

But, what if half the sites I visit can't be viewed on the iPad? What happens when I only see partial content on CNET.com, CNN, Washington Post, and lets not forget Hulu.com which will render nothing?

How does the iPad give the user a better browsing experience if that user is limited to what sites he/she can visit? Please explain.

It's simple. If you use Flash daily, then don't get an iPad to use as your primary web surfing device. The only time I use flash is when I'm watching a video on a tech site that doesn't use Youtube. If I wasn't able to view that video, then I could jump on to my MacBook and watch it. But not everyone uses Flash as much as you make it seem. I am perfectly fine with not having Flash on my iPhone, and if I do get an iPad, I would be fine without it on there as well. But I also understand that others use Flash more than I do, so the iPad isn't right for them.

 

[GaresTaylan]

Well it doesn´t suite just my needs, most of people are saying the same exact thing than me and won´t be getting one.

I have a life thank you very much, a good one!

Great. That would mean that it doesn't suit their needs either. Just like it doesn't suit my own needs right now. Due to that, I have no plans to purchase one.

It also does, and will, suit many people's needs. I do agree that Steve may have been taking it a bit far with some of his claims. A "better experience" would be a statement of opinion, everyone has one.

As far as any statistics about all the people that hate it... reminds me of something a store director told me once when I worked in retail: "For every person that comes in here and has a terrible experience, they will make sure the world knows how horrible it was. For every person that has a great experience, they may tell one or two." It's human nature to complain about these types of things. Although I wouldn't say out of all the things I could come up with that this would be one of the things I would truly need to bitch about.

That didn't stop iPhone or iPod touch users. Ask any of the 75 million+ of them.

Why should Apple support a proprietary format from a company who still can't write a plugin for OS X that isn't s**t and doesn't mess up your browser. I prefer they support open standards such as HTML5. YouTube is starting to make the switch. I hope others will as well.

^ This. There are have been several times I was browsing on my iTouch and would get pissed when I would get to a site that wouldnt work without flash. It did not stop me from buying an iPhone. When I am mobile and trying to fiddle with a smaller display and keyboard (which generally causes navigating to take longer) the last thing I want is the browser to crash.

 

[Boblister]

You really are quite the Apple kool-aid drinker, aren´t you? Why don´t you take the blinders off?

(And this is coming from a fan of Apple products).

If you are a fan of them...I would hate to see you if you weren't a fan.
I think you would really spit your dummy out then!

 

[BreezyXC60]

Well it doesn´t suite just my needs, most of people are saying the same exact thing than me and won´t be getting one.

I have a life thank you very much, a good one!

You have spent all day complaining about a item you will never buy on a forum for the product, why waste your time? Strange. I think you just like to flame and argue.

People are going to buy it, I know of at least 10 others including me.

 

[Halamolo]

People are going to buy it, I know of at least 10 others including me.

Wow! That makes 10 buyers! Good for Apple!

 

[BreezyXC60]

Wow! That makes 11 buyers! Good for Apple!

Ha ha,

 

[dave1812dave]

Apple TV if I'm not mistaken is still selling pretty well...at least well enough that Apple isn't losing money. So your argument about the Apple TV is null and void.

...Apple released the Newton during a time when technology wasn't reigning supreme...also commercialization of the newton. They couldn't get the word out about it...but where did the idea of the iPhone come from? The Newton. The iPod Touch? The Newton. The iPod? The Newton...Steve Jobs deff. had something back then, they just had no way of getting the word out efficiently, and Apple wasn't the same company back then as it is now.

So thank Jobs for creating the Newton, albiet not a big seller, for the iPhone...

I rest my case.

You lost your case, counselor!

 

[pbrstreetgang]

It is an interesting device, and probably was Apple's intention to stir up controversy because if you look at the amount of talk going on around the internet about this device, it certainly is getting into the public's eye without and expensive PR campaign. I think Apple made a conscious decision for the device NOT to challenge the iphone or MacBook Pro's by being an all in one device, capable of everything, why stunt those very profitable revenue streams. The real value in the iPad is the impending software development that is going to ensue in the next 8- 9 months.
There are a couple of glaring errors, lack of multi-tasking and webcam, maybe this is deliberate as the hype has started already and these features can be introduced in version OS4.0 and the first refresh giving sales extra impetus.
The device is obviously not aimed at the existing iphone and laptop owners, Apple is targeting new customers who will be brought into the existing itunes store eco-system. Just my opinion.