iPad mini Why I’m keeping my IPad Mini 6

[ofarlig]

So... let those who believe it is a characteristic of all LCD screens continue on with that and make their purchasing decisions accordingly... if you think it is something to be concerned with, then make the appropriate decision as well.

What is it in this age where people think facts are somehow a matter of opinion? Because saying every screen has it is just a fact based on how screens work and physics.

If you don’t believe in this you have to prove that our LCD screens update every pixel at the same time or that the photons from certain pixels somehow travel back in time to arrive at your retinas at the same time as the photons from the pixels that already updated did. Because if you cannot prove either of those the conclusion is that every LCD has the effect. The only question becomes how noticeable (if at all) it becomes.

 

[MrGimper]

I recommend abandoning your attempt to convince people otherwise. It's a lost cause. I can clearly see the jelly scrolling on the Mini 6 (without the need to "prove" it by some janky stuttering slo-mo youtube video)... and yet it is not present on my Mini 5 in landscape or portrait. (some claim that my vision is somehow limited in my ability to perceive the jelly scroll)

It isn't present on my iPad 1 and iPad 2 (yes, I still own both of them... the 1 as a digital picture tube for a vintage TV, the 2, as a dedicated iCade machine).

So... let those who believe it is a characteristic of all LCD screens continue on with that and make their purchasing decisions accordingly... if you think it is something to be concerned with, then make the appropriate decision as well.

The jelly on my mini 4 in landscape is slight, so it may be a visual tolerance thing, but it’s there. On my 6, if i scroll down at a decent pace to scan forum posts (swipe finger up), the pink/purple lines above posts are almost a cm lower on the right of the screen than on the left. Scroll the other way and the effect is reversed. Landscape on the 6, no issue vertically scrolling.

 

[leperry]

I was going back and forth in whether to return mine. But I tested my mini being out and about reading and using Procreate. My goodness this is solid. This is the first time I’ve used procreate on a small device and it’s SO useful. It won’t replace my 12.9 screen but it’s great for preliminary sketches

 

[tpfang56]

Lack of storage?
Unless you are trying to make this iPad mini 6 store multiple iPadOS games, a lot of download music and video you have plenty of storage for a casual user with many apps, and usually most streams/reads content online. At ~ 40 GB free currently with everything copied over. 64 GB is more then enough for me to use the camera a bit, take short videos, or download a few movies for a trip. Then you can offload it to USB-C storage if you need to.

I should note some might really want to use the Mini 6 for serious content editing, managing collection, and that can use a lot more storage.

Now about that other topic, do you ever scroll in a way that you use your finger across the screen to stop the stroll quicker on a 60 Hz screen, I do. I don't normally scroll lifting my finger away. I haven't change how I scroll the iPad Mini 6 from previously Mini 5 either.

BTW This Mini 6 really pairs well with someone that uses a laptop or desktop, and also a smaller iPhone such as the iPhone 13 mini. I hope you can take time to play with it more sometime and use it differently.

Well, I would like to download a lot of games, apps, and be able to store a decent amount of music and videos on the device, would probably use between 64gb and 128gb of storage. Even if I could keep under 64gb (really only 50gb total considering the OS + system data), I wouldn’t want to feel squeezed by lack of storage either. 256gb is also too much for me, but I would have no other choice, right?

128gb would’ve been the perfect goldilocks option, and in the year that apple upgraded base storage on both the iphones and budget ipad, it was a huge missed opportunity to not do the same for the mini. Even if they didn’t upgrade base storage, having a 128gb for $80+ would’ve worked, but “apple” and “reasonable storage” hardly seem to exist in the same sentence. They clearly wanted it to be identical to the ipad air 4, except the air 4 can be upselled to the superior ipad pro with 128gb storage, and there’s no such option for the mini… I know we can use external storage now, but that’s inconvenient for my usage.

As for scrolling, I do a lot flick scrolling. It’s necessary for me if I want to want to get through as much content as I want. However, even when I do a slow scroll, I’m very perceptive to jelly scrolling. It’s distracting at best, and nauseating at worst.

 

[tpfang56]

I recommend abandoning your attempt to convince people otherwise. It's a lost cause. I can clearly see the jelly scrolling on the Mini 6 (without the need to "prove" it by some janky stuttering slo-mo youtube video)... and yet it is not present on my Mini 5 in landscape or portrait. (some claim that my vision is somehow limited in my ability to perceive the jelly scroll)

It isn't present on my iPad 1 and iPad 2 (yes, I still own both of them... the 1 as a digital picture tube for a vintage TV, the 2, as a dedicated iCade machine).

So... let those who believe it is a characteristic of all LCD screens continue on with that and make their purchasing decisions accordingly... if you think it is something to be concerned with, then make the appropriate decision as well.

But it is there on every ipad. The ipad mini 6 is the only one noticeable enough for you to percieve it, but I can see it on every device. It was there on the air, the budget ipad, and the older minis in landscape, and in portrait on the ipad pro.

It’s much more obvious on the mini 6 and much less obvious on the ipad pro, while the ipad/ipad air/older minis are all somwhere in the middle.

 

[Realityck]

As for scrolling, I do a lot flick scrolling. It’s necessary for me if I want to want to get through as much content as I want. However, even when I do a slow scroll, I’m very perceptive to jelly scrolling. It’s distracting at best, and nauseating at worst.

It’s much more obvious on the mini 6 and much less obvious on the ipad pro, while the ipad/ipad air/older minis are all somwhere in the middle.

You already returned your Mini 6 so why these posts in this topic where people are discussing why they are keeping it? Most of us are very aware of everything thing about the Mini 6.

 

[tpfang56]

You already returned your Mini 6 so why these posts in this topic where people are discussing why they are keeping it?

Because my day was ruined and my disappointment was immeasurable.

And why not? You responded to my offhand comment about how I’m jealous of ppl who can’t see the jelly scroll.

 

[Realityck]

Because my day was ruined and my disappointment was immeasurable.

And why not? You responded to my offhand comment about how I’m jealous of ppl who can’t see the jelly scroll.

As a comparison I didn't buy it from a non apple store, I also didn't pre-order or pickup first day. I waited to see what the reviews were like. Yes I started to see people discuss their sensitivity to the effect. Than I thought I have to see for myself, so a few days later I went and played with 4 of them. I saw it what they were describing, but I also know how to scroll so you barely discern it being used most of the time compared to the previous mini 5 with its same 60 Hz screen redraw. I walked away with it being a non-issue. When available locally I bought one, and enjoy it more each day.

Like all products, you can just return it and go with something else or wait. It should never be a hard process to achieve that. If and when the holy grail appears where they have a iPad mini with 120 Hz, and 128 GB storage I will trade it in, otherwise this will do nicely. The only real negative is the case design requires waiting a bit to get something decent for protecting it on the go.

 

[tpfang56]

As a comparison I didn't buy it from a non apple store, I also didn't pre-order or pickup first day. I waited to see what the reviews were like. Yes I started to see people discuss their sensitivity to the effect. Than I thought I have to see for myself, so a few days later I went and played with 4 of them. I saw it what they were describing, but I also know how to scroll so you barely discern it being used most of the time compared to the previous mini 5 with its same 60 Hz screen redraw. I walked away with it being a non-issue. When available locally I bought one, and enjoy it more each day.

Like all products, you can just return it and go with something else or wait. If and when the holy grail appears where they have a iPad mini with 120 Hz, and 128 GB storage I will trade it in, otherwise this will do nicely. The only real negative is the case design requires waiting a bit to get something decent for protecting it on the go.

Normally, I don’t buy apple products brand new. The mini was an exception because I wanted it so bad. I’ve resigned now to waiting for the next model ?.

 

[dmdcash]

You already returned your Mini 6 so why these posts in this topic where people are discussing why they are keeping it? Most of us are very aware of everything thing about the Mini 6.

EXACTLY!! There are other threads for the haters to bash the 6. This is for those of us that love it and are keeping it, right?

 

[pullman]

FWIW I today went to the Apple Store here in The Hague to check out the Mini 6 which would be the first iPad I'd buy. I used several Minis and didn't see any jelly effect at all. It could be that it's device-specific and doesn't affect all of them or that I'm just not picking up on it. I won't let this affect my decision to buy it at some point in the near future.

Incidentally I like the 3:2 aspect ratio a lot. To me as a film photographer it's the natural way to view images, such as 24x36mm film photos. On top of that it seems to work well with books, I noticed. And the black bars on movies are thinner too. So all in all I think the ratio is perfect (for me).

 

[evorc]

After owning it now and been using it a lot since this past Saturday, I’m very happy with this device. Like I said before the jelly is there but it’s not something I notice with regular usage. This one is a keeper until the next mini comes out, which will likely have better screen and hopefully with promotion.

 

[dgdosen]

When one of the previous generation minis shipped, it took a step backwards in terms of color accuracy. I thought all of that criticism was valid because I could take a picture of something and it would show different colors when viewing side by side (hydrangeas! ftw) with the real thing. The color accuracy was important because that's the thing one was actively using.

Scrolling, on the other hand, is never the goal on the ipad. Like a lot of animations, it's the means to get you to where you want to go next - more doom-ful tweets, more mac rumors flame spewing comments - the scroll is to get you to where you can see that new content, which when you get there, looks great. This shearing effect doesn't effect other motion - like watching video content. That would be bad.

That's why I don't think this much of an issue. It's still an issue, and Apple should address it. If I've got a budget of 15 trillion operations per second, I think I might want to use a handful of those to 'offset' the hardware effect of jelly scrolling on a per device/orientation basis.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Scrolling, on the other hand, is never the goal on the ipad.

So now the jelly is mostly ok because "scrolling isn't the goal"?
Goodness -- we are really rolling out any excuse for Apple we can here

 

[Shanghaichica]

So now the jelly is mostly ok because "scrolling isn't the goal"?
Goodness -- we are really rolling out any excuse for Apple we can here

Well Tim himself said the goal isn’t for users to endlessly scroll and scroll.

 

[Sanlitun]

My two weeks will be up Friday and I will be keeping mine, and largely for the following reasons.

The new form factor makes it more useful than the previous mini. I like having the Email and iMessage apps running splitscreen in a single view in this size format.

The color contrast on the display is great especially for video playback. It's better than the Mini 5 and matches the color on my M1 12.9

A15

 

[dgdosen]

So now the jelly is mostly ok because "scrolling isn't the goal"?
Goodness -- we are really rolling out any excuse for Apple we can here

To be clear, I'm not excusing anything. I'm just trying to shed light on the severity of the issue. (of which everyone has a different and valid opinion)

 

[sparksd]

My two weeks will be up Friday and I will be keeping mine, and largely for the following reasons.

The new form factor makes it more useful than the previous mini. I like having the Email and iMessage apps running splitscreen in a single view in this size format.

The color contrast on the display is great especially for video playback. It's better than the Mini 5 and matches the color on my M1 12.9

A15

Side by side with my 2021 12.9, the Mini 6 looks really quite good with video playback.

 

[turbineseaplane]

The color contrast on the display is great especially for video playback. It's better than the Mini 5 and matches the color on my M1 12.9

Is there any data showing the color contrast has changed?
I can't discern any difference between the screens (did another in person side by side yesterday for a bit)

 

[Shanghaichica]

Side by side with my 2021 12.9, the Mini 6 looks really quite good with video playback.

Yes it does well compared to my 11 inch pro.

 

[turbineseaplane]

To be clear, I'm not excusing anything. I'm just trying to shed light on the severity of the issue. (of which everyone has a different and valid opinion)

A good point - thank you for clarifying in follow up

 

[Shanghaichica]

Is there any data showing the color contrast has changed?
I can't discern any difference between the screens (did another in person side by side yesterday for a bit)

I haven’t had time to compare my mini 5 which I still have and my mini 6. I will later on tonight. Well I did lnitially but it wasn’t fair to the mini 5 because it had a glass screen protector on and at that time the mini 6 didn’t. Now both have glass screen protectors on made by the same company so should be a fairer comparison.

 

[newellj]

So now the jelly is mostly ok because "scrolling isn't the goal"?
Goodness -- we are really rolling out any excuse for Apple we can here

This is just my own use and experience, but for me the only way I can get a jelly effect is to flick scroll very quickly, and in that case I’m not trying to read anything, I’m barely even looking at the iPad. I am just trying to get somewhere further down or further up a page or site. In that case, jelly scrolling just wouldn’t be a concern — at least for me, YMMV.

 

[newellj]

To be clear, I'm not excusing anything. I'm just trying to shed light on the severity of the issue. (of which everyone has a different and valid opinion)

And I will join in that. I am not trying to excuse technological problems, but I also want to be realistic about where technological compromises exist but don’t actually affect my use.As always, YMMV.

 

[mizzourah]

So now the jelly is mostly ok because "scrolling isn't the goal"?
Goodness -- we are really rolling out any excuse for Apple we can here

I honestly think this is the wrong thread for you. The other one more suits how you view this device.