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Shanghaichica

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I've got a S5 and the 5S and i can tell you know unless the light is all but perfect then yeah it might just edge out the 5S, but soon as those perfect conditions change then that when you start to see the shortfalls of the S5 camera, while the 5S can take perfect sharp images in low light or cloudy days the S5 struggles badly, more often than not images from the S5 camera come out blurry unless you keep perfectly still, the 5S has no such problems even in very low light.

So camera wise the 5S wins because it has no trouble at all taking pictures in all lighting conditions.

Well that's not been my experience. There is no blur with my S5. The only place the 5s beats it is in low light. Outside the S5 is better by far. Maybe it's the screen on the 5S but in good lighting pics just lack the detail that pics from the S5 give.
 

Winona Northdakota

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Dec 27, 2010
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Why would you pick iPhone over the Galaxy S5?

Do you really talk to your phone? Give me a break.



On android you have access to Google anywhere you are. You don't have to talk to your phone.


It's such a popular feature, Apple, Microsoft and Google have been making a big thing about it. Siri, Google Now, Cortana and in case you missed the news, Siri and Google Now are available to use with an iPhone. Microsoft is debating on bringing Cortana to iOS and Android OS.

We don't have to, yet people still do, despite what you imagine. Of course, only Open Handset Alloance Android OS devices have access to Google anywhere, standard. Stock Android OS, of course, it isn't standard and that's the point.
 
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I7guy

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Well that's not been my experience. There is no blur with my S5. The only place the 5s beats it is in low light. Outside the S5 is better by far. Maybe it's the screen on the 5S but in good lighting pics just lack the detail that pics from the S5 give.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/19425140/

The above thread contains some interesting comparisons. Certainly a more objective look rather than subjective look at the photos' end result.

Since the S5 has more pixels, cropping would show more details. Doesn't take into account dynamic range and the trueness of the color saturation though. The amount of pixels are the trade-off between the two cameras.
 

Schnedi

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Jan 16, 2011
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buy an iPhone over a Galaxy S5?? no way!!

buy a Samsung device? after the galaxy s4 (i had it for 2 weeks) i said myself: Samsung NEVER again.
 

Shanghaichica

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Apr 8, 2013
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https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/19425140/

The above thread contains some interesting comparisons. Certainly a more objective look rather than subjective look at the photos' end result.

Since the S5 has more pixels, cropping would show more details. Doesn't take into account dynamic range and the trueness of the color saturation though. The amount of pixels are the trade-off between the two cameras.

This is not objective at all. The writer clearly favours the iPhone and doesn't give the S5 or Samsung any credit at all.

Saying that SD cards are terrible is simply not true. Also they don't mention the fact that you can use on the go cables also to expand memory on the Samsung S5.

Even I'd you only get 25GB of onboard storage from a 32GB model it's not like you get a lot more from the iPhone as it's around 27.
 

I7guy

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This is not objective at all. The writer clearly favours the iPhone and doesn't give the S5 or Samsung any credit at all.

Saying that SD cards are terrible is simply not true. Also they don't mention the fact that you can use on the go cables also to expand memory on the Samsung S5.

Even I'd you only get 25GB of onboard storage from a 32GB model it's not like you get a lot more from the iPhone as it's around 27.

You're playing with words. The writer favors the iPhone, subjective, because a majority of the pictures look better. But what is objective, which you ignored, is how the same photo looks across each if the cameras. So the final opinion is subjective, but you can decide how each camera produces a specific photo in each of the lighting situations.

As far as sd cards, what does that have to do with anything related to the camera. Attaching an sd card to my phone is at the bottom of the feature list for me.
 
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daveathall

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ATM I would not pick an iPhone 5S over my Galaxy S5 (or my Nexus 5 for that matter), I wait with interest for the iPhone 6, but TBH, I don't see much change other than a larger screen, I will wait until it is released before coming to a conclusion.
 

I7guy

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ATM I would not pick an iPhone 5S over my Galaxy S5 (or my Nexus 5 for that matter), I wait with interest for the iPhone 6, but TBH, I don't see much change other than a larger screen, I will wait until it is released before coming to a conclusion.

We all have our preferences. I would not pick any android device over my 5s.
 

Winona Northdakota

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Dec 27, 2010
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Why would you pick iPhone over the Galaxy S5?

This is not objective at all. The writer clearly favours the iPhone and doesn't give the S5 or Samsung any credit at all.

Saying that SD cards are terrible is simply not true. Also they don't mention the fact that you can use on the go cables also to expand memory on the Samsung S5.

Even I'd you only get 25GB of onboard storage from a 32GB model it's not like you get a lot more from the iPhone as it's around 27.


Not all SD cards are good. SD cards do fail. Even the big brand name ones. I have had brand name SD cards fail. Everyone I know has experienced this before. I know people who relied on SD cards to back up precious memories with their smartphone, only to plug in the SD card to find their memories lost for good. I know you want to cheerlead for the use of SD cards, I do see the value of them, but let's be realistic. The higher the storage capacity, the more fragile SD cards become.
 
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Shanghaichica

macrumors G5
Apr 8, 2013
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Not all SD cards are good. SD cards do fail. Even the big brand name ones. I have had brand name SD cards fail. Everyone I know has experienced this before. I know people who relied on SD cards to back up precious memories with their smartphone, only to plug in the SD card to find their memories lost for good. I know you want to cheerlead for the use of SD cards, I do see the value of them, but let's be realistic. The higher the storage capacity, the more fragile SD cards become.
SD cards are not perfect but they are not terrible as the author suggests.
 

JoeG4

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Jan 11, 2002
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I bought a gold 5S and wouldn't trade it for a Galaxy S5! I don't like touchwiz and was ok paying $650 for a metal body phone.

I wouldn't do the same for a plastic phone.
 

severage

macrumors regular
Oct 13, 2013
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I got the 5s from that tmobile promotion where you try out their network for a week.

Didn't like it at all. And this is from a huge Apple fan. I think iOS is a good OS, but on a 4 inch screen? I feel like I can't do anything on it. Even with 20/20 vision.

Besides all that, it doesn't feel like a $700 product at all.

Now the rMBP? And the iPad? Both are easily worthy of their price tags IMO, wish a mixture of OS that fits each device perfectly and premium hardware. The iPhone is too small and insignificant to feel like its price point.

So I got an LG G3. Very happy with it. 5x more pixels, better camera (IMO), thinner bezels, 3x as much RAM, more storage, removable battery, micro-sd card slot, I love the brushed metal finish.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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TL;DR - geez, 11 pages of what at a glance appears to be nonstop bickering...

FWIW, Not only would I pick an iPhone 5s over a Galaxy S5 (presently using a 5s), I'd take pretty much any flagship to midrange device--iOS, another Android, or WP--before I'd use a S5. And it's primarily for one plain and simple reason--cannot deal with TouchWiz. I don't love the hardware but it would be fine, could easily live with it, especially a GPE version. Put TW in any of its past or current incarnations on a device and I won't touch it with a 10 foot pole, no matter how great the hardware it.

I will of course hope to mitigate the flaming by stating this is only based on my preference--no claims that one OS is better than another, only personal dislike for one version more than just about everything else available. :D
 
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I7guy

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I have 20/200 vision and I don't have any issues getting what needs to get done on my 5s. For when I want something bigger, I have my desktop, laptop and iPad. Different strokes for different folks. Except heads down content creation, my iPhone is the most used internet connected device.
 

The Game 161

macrumors Nehalem
Dec 15, 2010
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I bought a gold 5S and wouldn't trade it for a Galaxy S5! I don't like touchwiz and was ok paying $650 for a metal body phone.

I wouldn't do the same for a plastic phone.

I would and I have as it's not what it's made out of that makes it a phone paying alot of money for. It's what it does.
 

Shanghaichica

macrumors G5
Apr 8, 2013
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I would and I have as it's not what it's made out of that makes it a phone paying alot of money for. It's what it does.

This!

I couldn't give a toss about how a phone looks or the materials it's made out of. The important thing is what it can actually do and in my opinion the iPhone falls short in terms of functionality.
 

Klyster

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Dec 7, 2013
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https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/19425140/

The above thread contains some interesting comparisons. Certainly a more objective look rather than subjective look at the photos' end result.

Since the S5 has more pixels, cropping would show more details. Doesn't take into account dynamic range and the trueness of the color saturation though. The amount of pixels are the trade-off between the two cameras.

http://www.gsmarena.com/camera_shootout-review-1104.php

I like this comparison.

http://www.thedigitalcamera.net/best-camera-phone-the-final-comparative/

And this one

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Samsung-Galaxy-S5-overview-Joint-leader-in-DxOMark-Mobile-rankings

And the pros seem to disagree with you.
S5 might not be the best, but it is better, overall, than any current iphone camera.
Deal with it, no doubt the new iPhone will catch up.
 
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jeffe

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Not all Android OS devices have access to Google Play, only Open Handset Alliance approved devices legally can sell with Google Play. Google doesn't legally allow for side loading Google Play.

Let's get real, 99%+ of people here discussing Android are talking about an open handset alliance approved device. Most people probably have no idea what you're talking about.
 

daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
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We all have our preferences. I would not pick any android device over my 5s.

I agree, I have had most iPhones up to and including the iPhone 5 and ATM my preference is the Galaxy S5, that may change with the larger iPhones, but that is still to come. Just out of curiosity, have you owned any recent Android flagship devices? :)
 

Winona Northdakota

macrumors 6502a
Dec 27, 2010
580
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Why would you pick iPhone over the Galaxy S5?

SD cards are not perfect but they are not terrible as the author suggests.


I think we are in agreement that SD cards are not perfect.

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Let's get real, 99%+ of people here discussing Android are talking about an open handset alliance approved device. Most people probably have no idea what you're talking about.


Except for Nexus devices too. Let's be honest and forthcoming when talking about the fragmentation of Android OS devices and not over simplify for the sake of convenience. That helps no one and hurts Android OS as a platform, if Android OS as a platform is truly as open as some would like to confer.

For example, not all Android devices come with an SD card and not all have a removable battery. Not all have a great sound card and not all have a great camera. I would much prefer an HTC One M8 over a Samsung S5, for so many reasons.

The HTC One now comes with the choice of Windows Phone too.
 
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I7guy

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http://www.gsmarena.com/camera_shootout-review-1104.php

I like this comparison.

http://www.thedigitalcamera.net/best-camera-phone-the-final-comparative/

And this one

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Samsung-Galaxy-S5-overview-Joint-leader-in-DxOMark-Mobile-rankings

And the pros seem to disagree with you.
S5 might not be the best, but it is better, overall, than any current iphone camera.
Deal with it, no doubt the new iPhone will catch up.

I like it; this back and forth.

It shows how unpredictable camera phones are. Pick your authoritative source, declare a winner, buy the phone and when you take your own photograph hope you get a good picture based on the specific scene composition.

The iphone 5s camera, now a year old, can take better snaps than newer models in certain lighting situations. That is a given and is at least what one review shows, "deal with it" as you say. The issue is you can never be sure any camera phone is giving you stellar performance in any particular situation.

We can certainly scour the internet and add up all of the reviews and debate the professional veracity of the review and declare an "internet" winner, but as at least one review shows, this is not very cut and dry. Plus those other two sites, and I am familiar with them, have no more credentials than the third site. I'll stick with that one review, it's as good as the others, except DxoMark, which there is a lot of controversy about in general on photography forums (as I participate on two).

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I agree, I have had most iPhones up to and including the iPhone 5 and ATM my preference is the Galaxy S5, that may change with the larger iPhones, but that is still to come. Just out of curiosity, have you owned any recent Android flagship devices? :)

I have never owned any android device. I have played with the S5 and m8 in the store and they feel "foreign" to me. There is something about android on a phone that I don't like.
 
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Risco

macrumors 68000
Jul 22, 2010
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With the recent sales results that shows the iPhone 5s is still outselling the newer Galaxy S5, I'm curious as to why you either picked or would pick the iPhone over the GS5. Spec for spec and feature for feature the GS5 is heads and tales above the iPhone in just about every category (1080P - 5.1" screen, 16MP camera, Killer battery life, expandable memory, etc.) and yet it's not outselling the iPhone... what does the iPhone still do better than The Galaxy S5 and Android KitKat 4.4.2?

Don't give me the tired old "android is a mess" argument, we aren't dealing with ginger bread or jelly bean here anymore. KitKat does almost everything well.

Owning a Xperia Z2, it is quite clear for me. The overall experience is much better. Games run smoother, the OS is smoother. Integration is better with my macbook, especially with iCloud.

I was always uploading pics on the go to my albums, now I need to wait till I get home. Safari is a s far better experience than all the other browsers I have tried, faster and much better bookmark management. Also the lack of lock screen notifications by default without an app such as slide lock is annoying. I also cannot access iTunes match, which meant I was forced to upload my entire library to google play which of course does not update play count amongst other things.

My big issue with iPhone is the screen is too damn small. This was the reason i picked up an Xperia Z2 as wanted to see how much difference the screen would make to me. It is night and day. This will however be fixed come the iPhone 6 which I will jump on straight away.

In androids favour, well widget are really nice. Google now seems pretty cool as well. I just genuinely think iOS does almost everything better, faster and more pleasant to use.
 

daveathall

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Aug 6, 2010
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I have never owned any android device. I have played with the S5 and m8 in the store and they feel "foreign" to me. There is something about android on a phone that I don't like.

Yes, I can relate to that, it took me over a week to be comfortable with my first Android phone after coming from the iPhone.
 
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