Why would you pick iPhone over the Galaxy S5?

[I7guy]

Not at all. The poster says that he was 'saved' after dropping his iPhone into the pool because he could email off his iPad. You can email off a plethora of non-Apple devices and as for iMessage, it is only any good if the recipient of your messages has an Apple device...which kinda limits the value of it in an 'emergency' situation.

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The Samsung S5 wins a fair few benchmark tests against the iPhone 5S:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/7

Yes, he could email/imessage off his ipad much easier, because the environment, contacts, email accounts, messages are virtually replicated on the ipad in a secure manner via icloud. Sure you can email virtually from any computer, but unless your contacts, names, addresses, birthdays and the like are in every email system, it's not quite the same thing. So if you are saying any old email client is any old email client then Hyundai Elantra equals a Bugatti.

As far as the benchmarks the big lose for iphone 5S is some of the graphics benchmarks. So unless your sole purpose for owning an iphone is playing games, then common things; like browsing, picture talking, o/s fluidity and the like go to iphone. Frankly I care more about how fast I can get the camera app started and start taking pictures than how fast graphics are for games. I'm sure there are others that would agree with that statement. And there are some benchmarks the 5S just dominates the particular benchmark. Additionally, I have not heard anyone complain the games that require intensive graphics are sub-par on the 5S, although I'm sure they may be some.

One more thing as far as imessage being of limited value in an emergency, if your whole family has an iphone and that is who you want to contact, then it clearly is not of limited value; the same for facetime. Non-ios receipts go out as SMS anyway. If you don't have an SMS plan, then SMS is the limiting factor, which has nothing to do with iphone.

 

[sunking101]

Yes, he could email/imessage off his ipad much easier, because the environment, contacts, email accounts, messages are virtually replicated on the ipad in a secure manner via icloud. Sure you can email virtually from any computer, but unless your contacts, names, addresses, birthdays and the like are in every email system, it's not quite the same thing. So if you are saying any old email client is any old email client then Hyundai Elantra equals a Bugatti.

As far as the benchmarks the big lose for iphone 5S is graphics. So unless your sole purpose for owning an iphone is playing games, then common things; like browsing, picture talking, o/s fluidity and the like go to iphone. Frankly I care more about how fast I can get the camera app started and start taking pictures than how fast graphics are. I'm sure there are others that would agree with that statement.

Most would agree that neither processor is exactly slow, and that in real world use both fly along. As for the iPad thing, it's surely just a familiarity issue? I'm sure if someone dropped their Android phone into a pool and ruined it, that they could just as easily pick up their Android tablet and have some kind of functionality. Way too many people here make out that this ecosystem thing is a matter of life and death when it really isn't. Sure you can prefer Apple and iOS, but that doesn't make it 'better' or more able than Android.

 

[Winona Northdakota]

Why would you pick iPhone over the Galaxy S5?

Why not call them if an instant response is required, or send an email? In most instances, SMS are received almost instantly.

Regardless, iMessage is nothing special and it is certainly not a reason to stay on the iOS platform for. There are many similar systems and apps. All this talk of staying with iOS because 'my family have iPhones and therefore I need iMessage' or 'I couldn't possibly do without Touch ID', or 'it connects seamlessly with my Mac and iPad' just baffles me. These are non-essential things which people are turning into dealbreakers. It's like nobody can contact anyone anymore unless they too have an iPhone. Facepalm.

Because I have an iPhone and it's there and it works. I have a camera on my iPhone too, like most cell phones. It comes with it's own app. Why do I use that app over any of the other camera apps in the App Store? Because it's there and it works well. Same reason. I don't need to even use my cell plan voice minutes. I can use a VoIP app or Facetime or whatever. It's not a deal breaker, it's a deal maker. You seem to be worked up way too much for such a non essential piece of software. Why do you care so much what others don't do with their iPhones.

 

[I7guy]

Most would agree that neither processor is exactly slow, and that in real world use both fly along. As for the iPad thing, it's surely just a familiarity issue? I'm sure if someone dropped their Android phone into a pool and ruined it, that they could just as easily pick up their Android tablet and have some kind of functionality. Way too many people here make out that this ecosystem thing is a matter of life and death when it really isn't. Sure you can prefer Apple and iOS, but that doesn't make it 'better' or more able than Android.

This is not a life or death issue, but a matter of preference and convenience. I'm sure android, through google, has similar functionality. BUT on IOS, as we know, it is seamless.

On the topic of the benchmarks, I'm not saying any device is "slow", I didn't make up the results, just discussing what I consider some obvious points.

 

[joshkhaos1]

This is not a life or death issue, but a matter of preference and convenience. I'm sure android, through google, has similar functionality. BUT on IOS, as we know, it is seamless.



On the topic of the benchmarks, I'm not saying any device is "slow", I didn't make up the results, just discussing what I consider some obvious points.

Yet real world performance is still flat out mediocre compared to iPhone 5S. Not talking about benchmarks, or any of those tech tests. Talking about real world day to day usage.

 

[cynics]

Why would you pick iPhone over the Galaxy S5?

It's been confirmed that Samsung is the most corrupt company in Asia, and they're real fans of organized crime. They're not doing anything that hasn't been done before with their phones either.

Apple makes a phone with a fingerprint sensor and a gold option, so Samsung does the exact same things but worse in only 6 months.



Samsung doesn't make commercials where they trash Apple because they're interested in making a good phone that is loved enough to sell well. They have to convince people to but them because their phones suck. They trash competitors with the goal of being the market leader making tons of money to own it all.



iPhones cost more than most Android phones because carriers have no bloatware from third parties like the carriers or EA's garbage. If Apple was interested in more money, they'd go ahead and let everyone buy themselves onto iPhones and ruin the user experience. Does Apple keep their phones clean for the user because they care more about money than the user?



Android fans claimed that 64 bit processors were a gimmick and now after a year of iPhones having it, they're getting 64 bit phones. Meanwhile Samsung and others make phones with twice the CPU cores, twice the clock speed, and twice the RAM, but benchmark scores are just about the same as the 5s, their battery life is the same, and the experience is either the same, or worse on Android.

Now what was that about the Kool-Aid?

That's a closed minded approach to looking at those topics.

TouchID is a great finger scanner better then it was previously utilized years prior in Android with the Motorola Atrix.

Apple no longer bashes the competition ever since their Mac vs PC campaigns unlike Samsung still does.

iPhones cost more then alternatives because people are willing to pay that much for a quality all around product. Bloatware has little to do with it proven by Nexus and GED Android devices that are much less expensive then an iPhone and carrier bloat free. However you'll still find the bloat from Apple that you can not disable/hide like in Android.

Android doesn't claim anything as Android is an operating system not a conscious being.

Kind of a more open minded of saying the same thing.

 

[I7guy]

That's a closed minded approach to looking at those topics.

TouchID is a great finger scanner better then it was previously utilized years prior in Android with the Motorola Atrix.

Apple no longer bashes the competition ever since their Mac vs PC campaigns unlike Samsung still does.

iPhones cost more then alternatives because people are willing to pay that much for a quality all around product. Bloatware has little to do with it proven by Nexus and GED Android devices that are much less expensive then an iPhone and carrier bloat free. However you'll still find the bloat from Apple that you can not disable/hide like in Android.

Android doesn't claim anything as Android is an operating system not a conscious being.

Kind of a more open minded of saying the same thing.

I disagree with there is bloat. In my book, bloatware is come on products to get you to part with your money or personal info either to the carrier or other party through direct payment, using more bandwidth or providing personal info for advertising purposes. None of that exists in IOS. While you may not consider every utility in IOS 7 useful for you, if usefulness is your definition of bloatware, might as well stop reading now.

You can certainly move utilities not useful to the last page. Someone said in some previous post at a past point in time the Compass utility is bloatware. Even though some may not find it as useful as others it can be moved to a page not used. Why apple does not allow you to delete it (I'm sure they have their reasons), I don't know, but using that app as an example, is clearly not bloatware.

 

[beosound3200]

I do hold my 5S with both hands in landscape mode and I don't have this issue, nor do I know anybody that does.

It was sort of sarcastic statement directed at the previous poster

 

[I7guy]

It was sort of sarcastic statement directed at the previous poster

Ah! You forgot <sarcasm> </sarcasm>.

 

[BlueGoldAce]

I much prefer the iPhone.

Samsung tends to choose ridiculous processors for its mobile phones, throwing in a quad-core CPU for pure marketing reasons, since it displays lower real-world performance than a dual-core CPU. In single core benchmarks the iPhone 5S utterly decimates the Galaxy S5 (the vast, overwhelming majority of apps are single-threaded and can only use one core). So for most intents and purposes, the iPhone 5S is a much faster phone. The Galaxy S5 has 4 cores in the US version, which is completely useless.



Yes, actually, the Galaxy S5 does use a PenTile display: http://doblim.com/link/11865_samsun...s-the-secrets-of-the-brightest-amoled-display

You are correct, my fault.

Now I believe the diamond matrix makes up for the downfalls of pentile?

None the less, it has a superior screen to the iphone (most reviewers think so at least), and is at the top of the screen food chain. But I think this pixel race, and the idea if 4k displays, is ridiculous and amounts to little more than a marketing gimmick.

I am perfect happy with my iPhone's screen.

 

[cynics]

I disagree with there is bloat. In my book, bloatware is come on products to get you to part with your money or personal info either to the carrier or other party through direct payment, using more bandwidth or providing personal info for advertising purposes. None of that exists in IOS. While you may not consider every utility in IOS 7 useful for you, if usefulness is your definition of bloatware, might as well stop reading now.

You can certainly move utilities not useful to the last page. Someone said in some previous post at a past point in time the Compass utility is bloatware. Even though some may not find it as useful as others it can be moved to a page not used. Why apple does not allow you to delete it (I'm sure they have their reasons), I don't know, but using that app as an example, is clearly not bloatware.

I don't know what to tell you. You redefined the word bloatware to your liking. I've been using the term since the Packard Bell days long before a smartphone was even on a drawing board. Its useless software the takes up storage, started because it was on install disk for Windows and such and "bloated" it. I get annoyed thinking about it, installing a fresh copy of Windows 3.11 and going straight to uninstall program and removing stuff. Lol.

Some people find the carrier bloatware useful too like backup assistant and navigator and such. Doesn't make it any less of bloatware. At least let the user hide it, better yet uninstall it, even better yet give the option to install it and don't come on the device to begin with. Its software that is useless to me taking up storage that is useful to me....bloatware.

Regardless staying on topic the S5 has more bloatware then an iPhone but thats NOT why the iPhone is the price it is which was what I was saying.

 

[I7guy]

I don't know what to tell you. You redefined the word bloatware to your liking. I've been using the term since the Packard Bell days long before a smartphone was even on a drawing board. Its useless software the takes up storage, started because it was on install disk for Windows and such and "bloated" it. I get annoyed thinking about it, installing a fresh copy of Windows 3.11 and going straight to uninstall program and removing stuff. Lol.

Some people find the carrier bloatware useful too like backup assistant and navigator and such. Doesn't make it any less of bloatware. At least let the user hide it, better yet uninstall it, even better yet give the option to install it and don't come on the device to begin with. Its software that is useless to me taking up storage that is useful to me....bloatware.

Regardless staying on topic the S5 has more bloatware then an iPhone but thats NOT why the iPhone is the price it is which was what I was saying.

I can't say I agree with you, and I've been around the block a few times. Windows XT on a pc with an 8088 anyone?

Backup assistant is not bloatware(to me) as there is no financial incentive to VZW. In fact, I used it to backup my contacts. Same with VZNav, I tried it and use it.

Times change, definitions change. I guess to some the phone app can be considered bloatware and useless, because "those" people never make phone calls.

Whether the carrier should be installing utilities is another topic, but my guess is whatever apple has installed is for a reason and these apps showcase their hardware and software, like the compass app.

But while I don't use every app every day, I do use all of them. Even the lowly compass app as a level. So by what I consider to be today's definition of "real" bloatware, there is none on the iphone.

 

[jeffe]

Well the standard message app on android would be a core app. That is to say part of the OS. And would only see updates when the OS is updated. And depending on what desert that featured was included on would determine how many phone had it.

For example, if that was a KitKat feature, then only about 5 models would have it.
If it was ICS maybe 50 or so.
If it was gingerbread then, yeah maybe 10,000 models have it available.

That's my point. Android may introduce great features, but many phones will never see them since the manufactures have little incentive to up their no-longer being sold phones.

Hangouts replaced Google talk through play services. Pretty much everyone was updated regardless of the version of Android they were on.

You misunderstand how Google's Android is updated. Many updates are pushed through play services which is updated regardless of which version of Android your on while other updates are dependent on the manufacturer.

Features and api's are added all the time through the play services and almost all devices receive these updates.

 

[llarc84]

To answer the OP's question, there are a few things I like about Apple products that other companies either don't offer or don't do as well.

1. Design. The iPhone, to me, is one of the best looking phones on the market.
2. Hardware. In my experience, most to the time, the iPhone "just works".
3. Ease of use. Although I have a technical background, I don't want things to be complicated when it comes to features and use. The iPhone is very easy to use.
4. Support. Apple has the best support in the world, hand's down.

As a developer, I do have the added benefit of being able to enjoy offerings from other companies, however, as its part of my job to do so. I have no issues with Android, I just prefer iOS.

 

[RHustler]

Some people like to hack their phones to get them to do what they want. I spend all day working in IT - I don't want to have to mess about with the stuff I use for myself - I want an 'appliance' that works and does what I want with no fuss or messing. The iPhone does that for me. I keep in touch, read books/magazines, browse the web, listen to music, do my invoices, scan my receipts and send them as PDFs, use O/S maps, video/audio conference, read comics etc etc etc.

Any Android releases have to be specifically built for each specific handset by the specific manufacturer, so when you hear stories about 8-month old Android phones not getting the latest release of the Android OS because the phone manufacturer is focusing on their newer phones (invariably released 4 months after the last one) then I know I made the right choice. My iPhone4 is now 4 years old, and I have the latest iOS7 on it. OK- I won't get iOS8 on it, but 4 YEARS OLD!!!. Not many Android users can say the same about their phone (if any).

 

[markbravo2014]

With the recent sales results that shows the iPhone 5s is still outselling the newer Galaxy S5, I'm curious as to why you either picked or would pick the iPhone over the GS5. Spec for spec and feature for feature the GS5 is heads and tales above the iPhone in just about every category (1080P - 5.1" screen, 16MP camera, Killer battery life, expandable memory, etc.) and yet it's not outselling the iPhone... what does the iPhone still do better than The Galaxy S5 and Android KitKat 4.4.2?

Don't give me the tired old "android is a mess" argument, we aren't dealing with ginger bread or jelly bean here anymore. KitKat does almost everything well.

I like how ios runs on my apple devices. And I have seen my friends having problems with software on their android devices. I love my iphone 5 and I don't think I'm changing my phone anytime soon.

 

[sunking101]

Some people like to hack their phones to get them to do what they want. I spend all day working in IT - I don't want to have to mess about with the stuff I use for myself - I want an 'appliance' that works and does what I want with no fuss or messing. The iPhone does that for me. I keep in touch, read books/magazines, browse the web, listen to music, do my invoices, scan my receipts and send them as PDFs, use O/S maps, video/audio conference, read comics etc etc etc.

Any Android releases have to be specifically built for each specific handset by the specific manufacturer, so when you hear stories about 8-month old Android phones not getting the latest release of the Android OS because the phone manufacturer is focusing on their newer phones (invariably released 4 months after the last one) then I know I made the right choice. My iPhone4 is now 4 years old, and I have the latest iOS7 on it. OK- I won't get iOS8 on it, but 4 YEARS OLD!!!. Not many Android users can say the same about their phone (if any).

Congratulations on the 'latest o/s' which slowed your phone right down, gave you no new features worth a dime, and made your phone FEEL like it's four years old (when it didn't before).
I would much rather my phone perform like it did when new, but certain apps which can't be updated gradually start appearing. The phone would still be inherently useable and would still have no lag.
Android devices DO get updates, even the Samsung ones, they just aren't as timely. After the debacle that was iOS7, and having to wait the best part of a whole YEAR for the main bugs to be ironed out, I'm never going to put a major iOS update on an iPhone ever again. So updates, meh. Critical and 'point' updates yeah, but not the whole number updates. Each to their own of course, but to say that Android phones don't get updates is wrong, and to make out that Apple updates are brilliant and plain sailing is also wrong. There are very few people outside of this forum who don't bitterly regret installing iOS7 on their iPhone 4.

Oh and you also say that Android phones are released every four months. The flagship phones - for example the Samsung Galaxy, Samsung Note and HTC One - are released every 12 months, just like iPhones are. You also don't need to root them or customise them. They work out of the box just like iPhones do. If you don't want to customise them then you don't have to! People who faff about with ROMs are doing just that, faffing about. There is no need, and often their phones perform worse for them having done so. Installing new ROMs is no different to jailbreaking an iPhone, the option is there but most people don't bother.

 

[Winona Northdakota]

Hangouts replaced Google talk through play services. Pretty much everyone was updated regardless of the version of Android they were on.

You misunderstand how Google's Android is updated. Many updates are pushed through play services which is updated regardless of which version of Android your on while other updates are dependent on the manufacturer.

Features and api's are added all the time through the play services and almost all devices receive these updates.

Not all Android OS devices have access to Google Play, only Open Handset Alliance approved devices legally can sell with Google Play. Google doesn't legally allow for side loading Google Play.

 

[I7guy]

Congratulations on the 'latest o/s' which slowed your phone right down, gave you no new features worth a dime, and made your phone FEEL like it's four years old (when it didn't before)...

Android bashing again?

Can't be referring to apple, because my iphone 4 with 7.1.2 runs just fine. I'm happy that apple is in fact supporting older hardware with newer software and newer apps and features.

It allows me to delay purchase of new iphones probably through the end of year and since I have insurance the hardware aspect of these phones, which admittedly have taken some abuse, is covered.

So I'm a happy camper that apple supports it's older hardware.

I didn't quote the rest of your post as it's the same stuff with sweeping generalizations that seemingly apply to all 10,000,000+ iphone 4 users except myself and everybody else I know and the remainder of humanity.

 

[sunking101]

Android bashing again?

Can't be referring to apple, because my iphone 4 with 7.1.2 runs just fine. I'm happy that apple is in fact supporting older hardware with newer software and newer apps and features.

It allows me to delay purchase of new iphones probably through the end of year and since I have insurance the hardware aspect of these phones, which admittedly have taken some abuse, is covered.

So I'm a happy camper that apple supports it's older hardware.

It's a forum, and when people state things I disagree with, or are blatantly wrong, I will comment. As do you ;-)

You post that you're happy with every single facet of Apple ownership, right down to an iPhone 4 running iOS7 which is a frankly horrid experience IMO. That's your call and I'm pleased that you are so over the moon with everything Apple, but it doesn't stop me disagreeing with you (or you disagreeing with me).

 

[I7guy]

It's a forum, and when people state things I disagree with, or are blatantly wrong, I will comment. As do you ;-)

You post that you're happy with every single facet of Apple ownership, right down to an iPhone 4 running iOS7 which is a frankly horrid experience IMO. That's your call and I'm pleased that you are so over the moon with everything Apple, but it doesn't stop me disagreeing with you (or you disagreeing with me).

I agree, we can agree to disagree.

I don't know what you refer to: "every single facet of apple ownership". I have no hardware issues, no software issues on IOS that I can tell is creating a problem for me. The device needs no support from Apple or Verizon.

Battery life is meh. As long as I don't watch "Netflix" all day long, the battery lasts more than the day, which is up to 36 hours. So I've never thought about: "every single fact of apple ownership" in that way. I'm sure there are things that annoy me, but it's the nature of the beast with touch screen devices and not specifically apple.

 

[ron7624]

You really have to ask?
Sorry, but I really had to make that comment.
For me it is the ecosystem. But not only that, iOS runs so seamlessly between all of my devices - all of my information is available at all times.
There have been vast improvements in the android world but we started with those features in iOS more than three years ago and those features worked from the get go.
I'm not starting from day one new. It would take me months if not years to rebuild all that I have in a different world. I'm not prepared to do that.
So, it doesn't matter how much better Android hardware gets, it can never, ever replace what I've already got. The current hardware offerings from Apple work just fine.

 

[mrex]

What are those things that cannot be done crossplatform for example? I own win/osx/ios/android and things I need and use work seamlessly among each other.

 

[sunking101]

You really have to ask?
Sorry, but I really had to make that comment.
For me it is the ecosystem. But not only that, iOS runs so seamlessly between all of my devices - all of my information is available at all times.
There have been vast improvements in the android world but we started with those features in iOS more than three years ago and those features worked from the get go.
I'm not starting from day one new. It would take me months if not years to rebuild all that I have in a different world. I'm not prepared to do that.
So, it doesn't matter how much better Android hardware gets, it can never, ever replace what I've already got. The current hardware offerings from Apple work just fine.

Apple have you by the short and curlies then?
I expect that they will love you and others like you. I have over $400 of paid-for apps and that is the *only* thing holding me back from switching platforms at the moment, but even that won't be a dealbreaker if I really like one of the upcoming Android handsets. I can build up my apps up again gradually, starting with the essential ones, and then I will have two ecosystems on the go. Nobody will be holding me to ransom and I'll be able to switch platforms whenever I want.

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What are those things that cannot be done crossplatform for example? I own win/osx/ios/android and things I need and use work seamlessly among each other.

Exactly. Most Apple owners seem to be luddites.

 

[The Game 161]

Because it runs iOS.

Because all my content is already bought and paid for on the App Store/iTunes Store.

Because it will work seamlessly with my iPad/iMac.

Because I'm an apple fanboy.

pretty much this is why alot would stick with the iphone. alot like to stay in the same system from mac to phone to ipad.

it's why i'm doing the same with my note devices.