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beosound3200

macrumors 6502a
Nov 23, 2010
684
0
Yes. It would kill my phone completely. It was very annoying when browsing the internet having to shift my hands around.

Really, how apple even exist today after the worst phone in history is beyond me

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Yes. It would kill my phone completely. It was very annoying when browsing the internet having to shift my hands around.

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I noticed it right after taking it out of the box. Unfortunately it used to happen where I used to be the most. In my living room. If the signal was 100% strong then the bars wouldn't drop enough to kill it, but anything less than perfect my palm would kill it and I would have to hold it with the tips of my fingers.

That wasn't too bad. It was the home button that killed it. It used to have an issue where if you removed the front panel you would damage the motherboard. So many home button replacements ended up in a non functioning front camera. This is what happened to mine and I sold it. Bought the 4s and all the issues had been resolved by then.

You werent able to kill it with palm, just fingers connecting metal antenna bands on the left side
 

chupachup

macrumors 6502
Sep 1, 2013
487
2
Really, how apple even exist today after the worst phone in history is beyond me

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You werent able to kill it with palm, just fingers connecting metal antenna bands on the left side

Amazing they're still here. The batteries in the macbooks used to expand and break the laptops.

The hinge on the first macbook air used to break on everyone ($1,800 laptop).

Amazing they're still here.

Where did I say it was the worst phone in history? I said it is the worst phone they've ever made.

No other iPhone has been plagued with more design issues than the iPhone 4.

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Really, how apple even exist today after the worst phone in history is beyond me

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You werent able to kill it with palm, just fingers connecting metal antenna bands on the left side

Not when you're watching videos landscape. I suffered that phone for a year. You don't need to tell me what happens.
 

osofast240sx

macrumors 68030
Mar 25, 2011
2,546
22
With the recent sales results that shows the iPhone 5s is still outselling the newer Galaxy S5, I'm curious as to why you either picked or would pick the iPhone over the GS5. Spec for spec and feature for feature the GS5 is heads and tales above the iPhone in just about every category (1080P - 5.1" screen, 16MP camera, Killer battery life, expandable memory, etc.) and yet it's not outselling the iPhone... what does the iPhone still do better than The Galaxy S5 and Android KitKat 4.4.2?

Don't give me the tired old "android is a mess" argument, we aren't dealing with ginger bread or jelly bean here anymore. KitKat does almost everything well.
It just works! And gimmick free!!
 

Radiating

macrumors 65816
Dec 29, 2011
1,018
7
With the recent sales results that shows the iPhone 5s is still outselling the newer Galaxy S5, I'm curious as to why you either picked or would pick the iPhone over the GS5. Spec for spec and feature for feature the GS5 is heads and tales above the iPhone in just about every category (1080P - 5.1" screen, 16MP camera, Killer battery life, expandable memory, etc.) and yet it's not outselling the iPhone... what does the iPhone still do better than The Galaxy S5 and Android KitKat 4.4.2?

Don't give me the tired old "android is a mess" argument, we aren't dealing with ginger bread or jelly bean here anymore. KitKat does almost everything well.


Samsung is not a company that designs good products. They are a company that designs good products on paper. Let's go over your list and add a few.


The 1080p 5.1" screen. This is a pen tile screen which is actually a 720p display with some extra green pixels, which sometimes appears to be slightly higher resolution. It should be illegal for Samsung to call this a 1080p display, when it is only 1080p when displaying green. The net result is perceptually better than a 720p display but not as good as a 1080p display. In the real world the performance of the S5 screen in terms of sharpness and color accuracy is equal the iPhone 5S, and any marketing which makes it seem much better is intentionally misleading.

The 16MP Camera. The 16 megapixels refers to the camera's sensor. The sensor is your upper bound of information that the camera can capture. In reality the detail will always be lower than that. The lens of the camera must transmit the information to the sensor, and if the lens has poor resolution (defined by it's modular transfer function performance) you will take a lower resolution photo than your sensor captures. The Galaxy S5 has a camera that is capable of resolving 9 megapixels of detail. This is slightly more than the iPhone's 7.5 megapixels but the iPhone 5S has one key advantage: image stabilization. While both technically have it, the iPhone's image stabilization is around 2.5 times better. The Galaxy S5's stabilization is a joke that was tacked on at the last second.

Image stabilization for the phone basically makes your photos indoors 3 times more detailed and less noisy which is a huge difference. All flagship phone cameras take great pictures outdoors, but only good phone cameras can take pictures indoors. The LG G3, and the iPhone 5S are some of the very few phones that can take excellent low light pictures indoors. The S5 is not on that list.


Here's a comparison, see if you can spot the S5's camera versus the LG3:

night-g3.jpg


night-s5.jpg


And here's another one, in the half light and low light comparison it's like comparing nuclear weapons against stone axes. There's no question about the difference.

S5-iPhone-5s-Photos-for-S5-Review-Rev-21.jpg


The 5S also has the benefit of the color balancing flash which is nice.

Killer battery life is incredibly misleading too. The S5 draws a ton of power. In the real world benchmarks have consistently shown that the S5 and 5S have very similar battery life with the 5S having 5 hours 35 minutes and 9 seconds in mixed use tests, and the S5 having 5 hours 55 minutes 34 seconds. The Galaxy S5 has 6.3% more battery life, with a phone that is more than 50% larger (in terms of volume).

What this means is that if you put a battery case on the iPhone 5S, lets say a 2300 mah Lenmar Meridian battery case, it will bring the size of the phone to the exact same as the Galaxy 5S, except you will have twice the battery life.


So really the iPhone 5, has ether 2/3rds the size with slightly less battery life, or the same size with twice the battery life.

Expandable memory.

The Galaxy S5 only comes in a 32GB size max, the iPhone 5S has a 64GB size. This is important, because even though you can pop in a micro SD card to the S5, the 5S has more on chip storage.

Using a micro SD card is a terrible solution and I'm glad Apple didn't include it. Micro SD cards are very slow, even with the fast ones. On the low end you will see speeds around 10MB/s (80Mb/s), on the fast end you will see speeds of 45MB/s (350Mb/s). For comparison on board flash storage is 10-20 times faster.

I have a 64GB iPhone 5S personally and was given a 32GB Galaxy S5 from work. I have to use a Micro SD card with my S5 to meet my storage needs, and even with the fastest one it's terrible. Loading a modern mobile game off of micro SD storage would take more than 50 seconds, while on board flash would take at the most 4.

The iPhone 5S on the other hand also has expandable memory. The Mophie space and storage pack can add 32GB of storage and in a few weeks the 64GB model will arrive. This is a much faster solution than a Micro SD card, and doubles your battery life.

Samsung's decision to limit the 5S to 32Gb was not a good one, and dipping into a micro SD card as a band-aid is a bad solution.

In addition to that with Samsung you get at most 25GB of usable fast storage, which is a tiny amount. With the iPhone you get 62GB, due to the higher amount of space taken up by the phone itself. While you can expand the S5 with an additional 128Gb of slow storage, you can expand the 5S with 64GB of medium speed storage.

The net result when comparing the free space of a Galaxy S5 with a 128GB Micro SD versus a iPhone 5S with a 64GB Mophie pack is that while the Samsung Galaxy S5 has at maximum 21% more storage space, on average that storage space would be 70% slower, which is a huge disadvantage and much less usable.

Conclusion:

There are a ton of other points of comparison but it's worth mentioning that the single core performance of the Samsung Galaxy S5, which is what determines real world performance, is around half as fast as the iPhone 5S, and the graphics performance is around 4 times worse. The S5 needs a quad core to have a slightly faster multi core benchmarks as the 5S's dual core, which makes it much slower in the real world and with any apps. The S5 also obviously has a much less premium feel.

If you really drill down into the specs the S5 has many disadvantages over the iPhone and only 3 main advantages: 1. the weather sealing. 2. the screen size. 3. NFC.

Hope that clears things up a bit.
 
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DoctorKrabs

macrumors 6502a
Jul 12, 2013
689
882
Apple makes iPhones to make the best possible smartphone.
Samsung makes smartphones to make money, and no other reason.
 

Dilster3k

macrumors 6502a
Jul 20, 2014
790
3,206
Elegant hardware with a wonderful ecosystem versus a mess of an operating system with a **** cheap plastic wrap. Which do you prefer?
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
35,162
25,288
Gotta be in it to win it
Samsung is not a company that designs good products. They are a company that designs good products on paper. Let's go over your list and add a few.


The 1080p 5.1" screen. This is a pen tile screen which is actually a 720p display with some extra green pixels, which sometimes appears to be slightly higher resolution. It should be illegal for Samsung to call this a 1080p display, when it is only 1080p when displaying green. The net result is perceptually better than a 720p display but not as good as a 1080p display. In the real world the performance of the S5 screen in terms of sharpness and color accuracy is equal the iPhone 5S, and any marketing which makes it seem much better is intentionally misleading.

The 16MP Camera. The 16 megapixels refers to the camera's sensor. The sensor is your upper bound of information that the camera can capture. In reality the detail will always be lower than that. The lens of the camera must transmit the information to the sensor, and if the lens has poor resolution (defined by it's modular transfer function performance) you will take a lower resolution photo than your sensor captures. The Galaxy S5 has a camera that is capable of resolving 9 megapixels of detail. This is slightly more than the iPhone's 7.5 megapixels but the iPhone 5S has one key advantage: image stabilization. While both technically have it, the iPhone's image stabilization is around 2.5 times better. The Galaxy S5's stabilization is a joke that was tacked on at the last second.

Image stabilization for the phone basically makes your photos indoors 3 times more detailed and less noisy which is a huge difference. All flagship phone cameras take great pictures outdoors, but only good phone cameras can take pictures indoors. The LG G3, and the iPhone 5S are some of the very few phones that can take excellent low light pictures indoors. The S5 is not on that list.


Here's a comparison, see if you can spot the S5's camera versus the LG3:

Image

Image

And here's another one, in the half light and low light comparison it's like comparing nuclear weapons against stone axes. There's no question about the difference.

Image

The 5S also has the benefit of the color balancing flash which is nice.

Killer battery life is incredibly misleading too. The S5 draws a ton of power. In the real world benchmarks have consistently shown that the S5 and 5S have very similar battery life with the 5S having 5 hours 35 minutes and 9 seconds in mixed use tests, and the S5 having 5 hours 55 minutes 34 seconds. The Galaxy S5 has 6.3% more battery life, with a phone that is more than 50% larger (in terms of volume).

What this means is that if you put a battery case on the iPhone 5S, lets say a 2300 mah Lenmar Meridian battery case, it will bring the size of the phone to the exact same as the Galaxy 5S, except you will have twice the battery life.


So really the iPhone 5, has ether 2/3rds the size with slightly less battery life, or the same size with twice the battery life.

Expandable memory.

The Galaxy S5 only comes in a 32GB size max, the iPhone 5S has a 64GB size. This is important, because even though you can pop in a micro SD card to the S5, the 5S has more on chip storage.

Using a micro SD card is a terrible solution and I'm glad Apple didn't include it. Micro SD cards are very slow, even with the fast ones. On the low end you will see speeds around 10MB/s (80Mb/s), on the fast end you will see speeds of 45MB/s (350Mb/s). For comparison on board flash storage is 10-20 times faster.

I have to use a Micro SD card with my S5 and even with the fastest one it's terrible. Loading a modern mobile game off of micro SD storage would take more than 50 seconds, while on board flash would take at the most 4.

The iPhone 5S on the other hand also has expandable memory. The Mophie space and storage pack can add 32GB of storage and in a few weeks the 64GB model will arrive. This is a much faster solution than a Micro SD card, and doubles your battery life.

Samsung's decision to limit the 5S to 32Gb was not a good one, and dipping into a micro SD card as a band-aid is a bad solution.

In addition to that with Samsung you get at most 25GB of usable fast storage. With the iPhone you get 62GB, due to the higher amount of space taken up by the phone itself. While you can expand the S5 with an additional 128Gb of slow storage, you can expand the 5S with 64GB of medium speed storage.

The net result when comparing the free space of a Galaxy S5 with a 128GB Micro SD versus a iPhone 5S with a 64GB Mophie pack is that while the Samsung Galaxy S5 has at maximum 21% more storage space, on average that storage space would be 70% slower, which is a huge disadvantage and much less usable.

Conclusion:

There are a ton of other points of comparison but it's worth mentioning that the single core performance of the Samsung Galaxy S5, which is what determines real world performance, is around half as fast as the iPhone 5S, and the graphics performance is around 4 times worse. The S5 needs a quad core to do what the 5S needs a dual core to do which is a huge difference, which makes it much slower in the real world and with any apps. The S5 also obviously has a much less premium feel.

Anyways if you really drill down into the specs the S5 has many disadvantages over the iPhone and only 3 main advantages: 1. the weather sealing. 2. the screen size. 3. NFC.

Hope that clears things up a bit.

Sorry to quote the whole response, but you get props for this post.
 

beosound3200

macrumors 6502a
Nov 23, 2010
684
0
Amazing they're still here. The batteries in the macbooks used to expand and break the laptops.

The hinge on the first macbook air used to break on everyone ($1,800 laptop).

Amazing they're still here.

Where did I say it was the worst phone in history? I said it is the worst phone they've ever made.

No other iPhone has been plagued with more design issues than the iPhone 4.

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Not when you're watching videos landscape. I suffered that phone for a year. You don't need to tell me what happens.

Iphone 5 loses signal if you hold it in landscape covering both glass cutouts, appearently it isnt much better than 4
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
35,162
25,288
Gotta be in it to win it
Iphone 5 loses signal if you hold it in landscape covering both glass cutouts, appearently it isnt much better than 4

Is that like patting your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time?

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The S5 has a better camera than the iPhone 5S, and the battery life slays the 5S. With everything switched on too! I'm not going to contest the other things you say, but these two issues can be discounted out of hand.
Samsung phones, for all their plasticcy Touchwiz badness, have always had great cameras, great screens and that fantastic removable/user replaceable battery. The battery thing by itself makes them a strong contender if you keep your phones for longer than a year. No more worrying if it's an app, or booking a 'genius' appointment to check your battery. Just replace the thing yourself, and with a genuine Samsung battery.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/19425140/

I hope the above posts kills the notion the camera on the S5 is better than the 5S. I don't expect a response.
 

sunapple

macrumors 68030
Jul 16, 2013
2,845
5,486
The Netherlands
I just really really like iOS, so the iPhone wins every time (even a 4S which I'm currently using). Its just so... perfect.

Hardware: well, I can get used to any screen size between 3.5" and 6", so I don't really care about that. Hardware features on the S5 are probably great, that's the only positive thing I could think of. Still not positive enough for me to ever want a S5 over the iPhone.
 

rockitdog

macrumors 68030
Original poster
Mar 25, 2013
2,724
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Apple makes iPhones to make the best possible smartphone.
Samsung makes smartphones to make money, and no other reason.

Man you really are drinking the Kool-Aid! :) So basically Apple makes smartphones for people to enjoy and use, not to make money. Samsung just wants money and they don't believe they really have a superior product as long as it lines their pockets, right?
 

BlueGoldAce

macrumors 68000
Oct 11, 2011
1,951
1,455
Samsung is not a company that designs good products. They are a company that designs good products on paper. Let's go over your list and add a few.


The 1080p 5.1" screen. This is a pen tile screen which is actually a 720p display with some extra green pixels, which sometimes appears to be slightly higher resolution. It should be illegal for Samsung to call this a 1080p display, when it is only 1080p when displaying green. The net result is perceptually better than a 720p display but not as good as a 1080p display. In the real world the performance of the S5 screen in terms of sharpness and color accuracy is equal the iPhone 5S, and any marketing which makes it seem much better is intentionally misleading.

The 16MP Camera. The 16 megapixels refers to the camera's sensor. The sensor is your upper bound of information that the camera can capture. In reality the detail will always be lower than that. The lens of the camera must transmit the information to the sensor, and if the lens has poor resolution (defined by it's modular transfer function performance) you will take a lower resolution photo than your sensor captures. The Galaxy S5 has a camera that is capable of resolving 9 megapixels of detail. This is slightly more than the iPhone's 7.5 megapixels but the iPhone 5S has one key advantage: image stabilization. While both technically have it, the iPhone's image stabilization is around 2.5 times better. The Galaxy S5's stabilization is a joke that was tacked on at the last second.

Image stabilization for the phone basically makes your photos indoors 3 times more detailed and less noisy which is a huge difference. All flagship phone cameras take great pictures outdoors, but only good phone cameras can take pictures indoors. The LG G3, and the iPhone 5S are some of the very few phones that can take excellent low light pictures indoors. The S5 is not on that list.


Here's a comparison, see if you can spot the S5's camera versus the LG3:

Image

Image

And here's another one, in the half light and low light comparison it's like comparing nuclear weapons against stone axes. There's no question about the difference.

Image

The 5S also has the benefit of the color balancing flash which is nice.

Killer battery life is incredibly misleading too. The S5 draws a ton of power. In the real world benchmarks have consistently shown that the S5 and 5S have very similar battery life with the 5S having 5 hours 35 minutes and 9 seconds in mixed use tests, and the S5 having 5 hours 55 minutes 34 seconds. The Galaxy S5 has 6.3% more battery life, with a phone that is more than 50% larger (in terms of volume).

What this means is that if you put a battery case on the iPhone 5S, lets say a 2300 mah Lenmar Meridian battery case, it will bring the size of the phone to the exact same as the Galaxy 5S, except you will have twice the battery life.


So really the iPhone 5, has ether 2/3rds the size with slightly less battery life, or the same size with twice the battery life.

Expandable memory.

The Galaxy S5 only comes in a 32GB size max, the iPhone 5S has a 64GB size. This is important, because even though you can pop in a micro SD card to the S5, the 5S has more on chip storage.

Using a micro SD card is a terrible solution and I'm glad Apple didn't include it. Micro SD cards are very slow, even with the fast ones. On the low end you will see speeds around 10MB/s (80Mb/s), on the fast end you will see speeds of 45MB/s (350Mb/s). For comparison on board flash storage is 10-20 times faster.

I have a 64GB iPhone 5S personally and was given a 32GB Galaxy S5 from work. I have to use a Micro SD card with my S5 to meet my storage needs, and even with the fastest one it's terrible. Loading a modern mobile game off of micro SD storage would take more than 50 seconds, while on board flash would take at the most 4.

The iPhone 5S on the other hand also has expandable memory. The Mophie space and storage pack can add 32GB of storage and in a few weeks the 64GB model will arrive. This is a much faster solution than a Micro SD card, and doubles your battery life.

Samsung's decision to limit the 5S to 32Gb was not a good one, and dipping into a micro SD card as a band-aid is a bad solution.

In addition to that with Samsung you get at most 25GB of usable fast storage, which is a tiny amount. With the iPhone you get 62GB, due to the higher amount of space taken up by the phone itself. While you can expand the S5 with an additional 128Gb of slow storage, you can expand the 5S with 64GB of medium speed storage.

The net result when comparing the free space of a Galaxy S5 with a 128GB Micro SD versus a iPhone 5S with a 64GB Mophie pack is that while the Samsung Galaxy S5 has at maximum 21% more storage space, on average that storage space would be 70% slower, which is a huge disadvantage and much less usable.

Conclusion:

There are a ton of other points of comparison but it's worth mentioning that the single core performance of the Samsung Galaxy S5, which is what determines real world performance, is around half as fast as the iPhone 5S, and the graphics performance is around 4 times worse. The S5 needs a quad core to have a slightly faster multi core benchmarks as the 5S's dual core, which makes it much slower in the real world and with any apps. The S5 also obviously has a much less premium feel.

If you really drill down into the specs the S5 has many disadvantages over the iPhone and only 3 main advantages: 1. the weather sealing. 2. the screen size. 3. NFC.

Hope that clears things up a bit.

I had an galaxy s5 and went back to my i5s.

That being said, you are wrong on a few points. The biggest being the screen. IT IS NOT PENTILE, at least not anymore. A few generations back it was, but now, arguably, it is the best screen on the market. Reference a reputable reviewer, like andantech, and you will see that it is a true 1080p screen.

That being said, I found the random lag (not present in other current gen android phones, thanks to touchwiz) and a few others things unacceptable. Thus, i went back to my iphone.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
Samsung is not a company that designs good products. They are a company that designs good products on paper. Let's go over your list and add a few.


The 1080p 5.1" screen. This is a pen tile screen which is actually a 720p display with some extra green pixels, which sometimes appears to be slightly higher resolution. It should be illegal for Samsung to call this a 1080p display, when it is only 1080p when displaying green. The net result is perceptually better than a 720p display but not as good as a 1080p display. In the real world the performance of the S5 screen in terms of sharpness and color accuracy is equal the iPhone 5S, and any marketing which makes it seem much better is intentionally misleading.

The 16MP Camera. The 16 megapixels refers to the camera's sensor. The sensor is your upper bound of information that the camera can capture. In reality the detail will always be lower than that. The lens of the camera must transmit the information to the sensor, and if the lens has poor resolution (defined by it's modular transfer function performance) you will take a lower resolution photo than your sensor captures. The Galaxy S5 has a camera that is capable of resolving 9 megapixels of detail. This is slightly more than the iPhone's 7.5 megapixels but the iPhone 5S has one key advantage: image stabilization. While both technically have it, the iPhone's image stabilization is around 2.5 times better. The Galaxy S5's stabilization is a joke that was tacked on at the last second.

Image stabilization for the phone basically makes your photos indoors 3 times more detailed and less noisy which is a huge difference. All flagship phone cameras take great pictures outdoors, but only good phone cameras can take pictures indoors. The LG G3, and the iPhone 5S are some of the very few phones that can take excellent low light pictures indoors. The S5 is not on that list.


Here's a comparison, see if you can spot the S5's camera versus the LG3:

Image

Image

And here's another one, in the half light and low light comparison it's like comparing nuclear weapons against stone axes. There's no question about the difference.

Image

The 5S also has the benefit of the color balancing flash which is nice.

Killer battery life is incredibly misleading too. The S5 draws a ton of power. In the real world benchmarks have consistently shown that the S5 and 5S have very similar battery life with the 5S having 5 hours 35 minutes and 9 seconds in mixed use tests, and the S5 having 5 hours 55 minutes 34 seconds. The Galaxy S5 has 6.3% more battery life, with a phone that is more than 50% larger (in terms of volume).

What this means is that if you put a battery case on the iPhone 5S, lets say a 2300 mah Lenmar Meridian battery case, it will bring the size of the phone to the exact same as the Galaxy 5S, except you will have twice the battery life.


So really the iPhone 5, has ether 2/3rds the size with slightly less battery life, or the same size with twice the battery life.

Expandable memory.

The Galaxy S5 only comes in a 32GB size max, the iPhone 5S has a 64GB size. This is important, because even though you can pop in a micro SD card to the S5, the 5S has more on chip storage.

Using a micro SD card is a terrible solution and I'm glad Apple didn't include it. Micro SD cards are very slow, even with the fast ones. On the low end you will see speeds around 10MB/s (80Mb/s), on the fast end you will see speeds of 45MB/s (350Mb/s). For comparison on board flash storage is 10-20 times faster.

I have a 64GB iPhone 5S personally and was given a 32GB Galaxy S5 from work. I have to use a Micro SD card with my S5 to meet my storage needs, and even with the fastest one it's terrible. Loading a modern mobile game off of micro SD storage would take more than 50 seconds, while on board flash would take at the most 4.

The iPhone 5S on the other hand also has expandable memory. The Mophie space and storage pack can add 32GB of storage and in a few weeks the 64GB model will arrive. This is a much faster solution than a Micro SD card, and doubles your battery life.

Samsung's decision to limit the 5S to 32Gb was not a good one, and dipping into a micro SD card as a band-aid is a bad solution.

In addition to that with Samsung you get at most 25GB of usable fast storage, which is a tiny amount. With the iPhone you get 62GB, due to the higher amount of space taken up by the phone itself. While you can expand the S5 with an additional 128Gb of slow storage, you can expand the 5S with 64GB of medium speed storage.

The net result when comparing the free space of a Galaxy S5 with a 128GB Micro SD versus a iPhone 5S with a 64GB Mophie pack is that while the Samsung Galaxy S5 has at maximum 21% more storage space, on average that storage space would be 70% slower, which is a huge disadvantage and much less usable.

Conclusion:

There are a ton of other points of comparison but it's worth mentioning that the single core performance of the Samsung Galaxy S5, which is what determines real world performance, is around half as fast as the iPhone 5S, and the graphics performance is around 4 times worse. The S5 needs a quad core to have a slightly faster multi core benchmarks as the 5S's dual core, which makes it much slower in the real world and with any apps. The S5 also obviously has a much less premium feel.

If you really drill down into the specs the S5 has many disadvantages over the iPhone and only 3 main advantages: 1. the weather sealing. 2. the screen size. 3. NFC.

Hope that clears things up a bit.


Couple of quick points. I didn't think the S5 was pentile.

Battery life as tested by Anandtech is much better and the are a reliable source. Plus it charges faster so what difference does it make unless you want to brag about efficiency blah blah and negate actual usage.

iPhone read/write NAND is 20 mbs again tested by Anandtech last time I check. R/W of an SD is more then adequate for real world use.
 

DoctorKrabs

macrumors 6502a
Jul 12, 2013
689
882
Man you really are drinking the Kool-Aid! :) So basically Apple makes smartphones for people to enjoy and use, not to make money. Samsung just wants money and they don't believe they really have a superior product as long as it lines their pockets, right?
It's been confirmed that Samsung is the most corrupt company in Asia, and they're real fans of organized crime. They're not doing anything that hasn't been done before with their phones either.
Apple makes a phone with a fingerprint sensor and a gold option, so Samsung does the exact same things but worse in only 6 months.

Samsung doesn't make commercials where they trash Apple because they're interested in making a good phone that is loved enough to sell well. They have to convince people to but them because their phones suck. They trash competitors with the goal of being the market leader making tons of money to own it all.

iPhones cost more than most Android phones because carriers have no bloatware from third parties like the carriers or EA's garbage. If Apple was interested in more money, they'd go ahead and let everyone buy themselves onto iPhones and ruin the user experience. Does Apple keep their phones clean for the user because they care more about money than the user?

Android fans claimed that 64 bit processors were a gimmick and now after a year of iPhones having it, they're getting 64 bit phones. Meanwhile Samsung and others make phones with twice the CPU cores, twice the clock speed, and twice the RAM, but benchmark scores are just about the same as the 5s, their battery life is the same, and the experience is either the same, or worse on Android.
Now what was that about the Kool-Aid?
 

rui no onna

Contributor
Oct 25, 2013
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iPhone read/write NAND is 20 mbs again tested by Anandtech last time I check. R/W of an SD is more then adequate for real world use.
For running apps, he's correct.

Class 10 means minimum 10 MB/s sequential write and that's the highest rating for (micro)SD cards. UHS can be faster but it doesn't define minimum write speeds. Even then, you can have Class 10 cards that are awful for running apps due to extremely slow random 4K read/write (like 0.005 MB/s). Storage performance matters. Heck, storage is the reason the Nexus 7 (2012) slows down to a crawl after a while (no TRIM, I believe) and while there are some microSD cards that are up to the task (e.g. SanDisk, Samsung), not all of them are. I remember messing with CyanogenMod on the Nook Color and SanDisk Class 2 and 4 cards were actually recommended over Class 10 from other brands because of random 4K.

That said, having only 16 to 32GB of internal storage isn't really bad when you consider the fact that you can offload large content such as comics, magazines, music, pictures, videos, etc to a microSD card. Personally, as long as there's at least a 32GB model, I'd take the microSD slot over options with bigger internal storage.
 
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sunking101

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How can anyone defend Apple's extortionate memory prices by saying that dirt-cheap SD cards are inferior?? I bought a 32GB SanDisk SD for $20!
 

RenoG

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I will always (well for the foreseeable future) stay with apple because of the ecosystem. I'm typing on my ipad now now because I dropped my iPhone in the pool and killed it. The only way I'm not totally in the dark is due to icloud (iMessage) and email (gmail and icloud.com) accounts all being in the same place. Being able to pick up my ipad/MacBook and still have access to all my contacts and communicate with them is waaaayyy more valuable to me. Ecosystem ecosystem ecosystem. You kids can fight and bicker over all that other gimmicky crap all you want.
 

sunking101

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I will always (well for the foreseeable future) stay with apple because of the ecosystem. I'm typing on my ipad now now because I dropped my iPhone in the pool and killed it. The only way I'm not totally in the dark is due to icloud (iMessage) and email (gmail and icloud.com) accounts all being in the same place. Being able to pick up my ipad/MacBook and still have access to all my contacts and communicate with them is waaaayyy more valuable to me. Ecosystem ecosystem ecosystem. You kids can fight and bicker over all that other gimmicky crap all you want.

Erm, you would have access to your emails on any device and iMessage only works with other Apple devices. Considering only 5% of my friends have Apple devices, I would be pretty screwed if I dropped my phone down the loo.
 

AxoNeuron

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I much prefer the iPhone.

Samsung tends to choose ridiculous processors for its mobile phones, throwing in a quad-core CPU for pure marketing reasons, since it displays lower real-world performance than a dual-core CPU. In single core benchmarks the iPhone 5S utterly decimates the Galaxy S5 (the vast, overwhelming majority of apps are single-threaded and can only use one core). So for most intents and purposes, the iPhone 5S is a much faster phone. The Galaxy S5 has 4 cores in the US version, which is completely useless.

I had an galaxy s5 and went back to my i5s.

That being said, you are wrong on a few points. The biggest being the screen. IT IS NOT PENTILE, at least not anymore. A few generations back it was, but now, arguably, it is the best screen on the market. Reference a reputable reviewer, like andantech, and you will see that it is a true 1080p screen.

That being said, I found the random lag (not present in other current gen android phones, thanks to touchwiz) and a few others things unacceptable. Thus, i went back to my iphone.

Yes, actually, the Galaxy S5 does use a PenTile display: http://doblim.com/link/11865_samsun...s-the-secrets-of-the-brightest-amoled-display
 

I7guy

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Erm, you would have access to your emails on any device and iMessage only works with other Apple devices. Considering only 5% of my friends have Apple devices, I would be pretty screwed if I dropped my phone down the loo.

That's like saying Hyundai Elantra and a Bugatti are equivalent because they both get you from point a to point b.

edited: the word "Elantra"
 
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sunking101

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That's like saying Hyundai élan tea and a Bugatti are equivalent because they both get you from point a to point b.

Not at all. The poster says that he was 'saved' after dropping his iPhone into the pool because he could email off his iPad. You can email off a plethora of non-Apple devices and as for iMessage, it is only any good if the recipient of your messages has an Apple device...which kinda limits the value of it in an 'emergency' situation.

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I much prefer the iPhone.

Samsung tends to choose ridiculous processors for its mobile phones, throwing in a quad-core CPU for pure marketing reasons, since it displays lower real-world performance than a dual-core CPU. In single core benchmarks the iPhone 5S utterly decimates the Galaxy S5 (the vast, overwhelming majority of apps are single-threaded and can only use one core). So for most intents and purposes, the iPhone 5S is a much faster phone. The Galaxy S5 has 4 cores in the US version, which is completely useless.



Yes, actually, the Galaxy S5 does use a PenTile display: http://doblim.com/link/11865_samsun...s-the-secrets-of-the-brightest-amoled-display

The Samsung S5 wins a fair few benchmark tests against the iPhone 5S:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/7
 
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