But it's weird that everyone I know seems to have a solid iPhone. I've handled a lot of iPhones that belong to friends and I've seen no problems in that regard.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Why would you pick iPhone over the Galaxy S5?
- Thread starter rockitdog
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
But it's weird that everyone I know seems to have a solid iPhone. I've handled a lot of iPhones that belong to friends and I've seen no problems in that regard.
It's 'normal' apparently. Out of the 10-15 iPhone 5S models I've seen, only one had tight volume buttons. All the iPhone 5S on display at my nearest Apple store had loose buttons. It seems that far more are loose than tight. I hate loose buttons, it makes the device feel cheap.
----------
It's weird indeed. Like I said, my old iPhone 4 was perfect and yet I saw numerous threads about loose buttons with that model. My father has had it for over a year now and the buttons are still as tight as the day I bought it.
Oh, I have no doubt that there are bad iPhones out there. It's just that I don't seem to run into them.
I'm calling BS. I mean honestly, what do you consider "loose" to be, I mean obviously its not going to be completely flush against the device. And I've never heard of a rattling camera, lol....lol what?
Yes, that's always been the case. At least it was by the time the iPhone was released - not sure about iTunes itself as I never installed it prior to getting an iPhone. I got my first iPhone 7 years ago and I never had to enter credit card information (I always used gift cards). They do ask for your CC info during initial setup but there's always been a button/icon that lets you skip entering payment info.
sunking has a point about iMessage but he doesn't know how to make it.
iMessage is definitely the most convenient messaging app in phones today. Coupled with FaceTime, on no platform is it easier to connect with family and friends.
However, people with Android phones communicate just fine. You can video chat with Hangouts, too -- just as easily as you can with an iPhone. You can send a message via Hangouts the same way you can with an iPhone. You don't need to have a particular Android phone, either -- there are a lot more models that support Hangouts than iPhone models that support iMessage. People just don't really know about it, because google isn't pushing billions of dollars in ads to tell people you can video chat on an android phone.
iMessage is not unique or particularly more feature filled than Hangouts, nor is it more essential to the user experience. What Apple has is awareness of features, and a better integration into its OS. Hangouts will get there, but people have to be aware of its existence.
The beauty of an Android phone is its breadth of options, customization, and flexibility. This is also its biggest weakness, while Apple's biggest strength is stability and feature retention. Apple is slowly moving towards an Android-esque OS, with custom keyboards, widgets, new APIs, and of course a bigger screen phone and likely phablet.
Where Apple lagged, Android picked up but never found a singular approach. Android continues to improve at a faster rate than Apple is improving, but with the large lead Apple had, will it be enough?
Android L might be everything an Android user ever wanted when it comes to stability, feature consistency, and an overall cleaner, more stable experience. Apple's march towards openness and a willingness to listen to its customers can only help.
It's going to be an interesting few years. Android is becoming more like iOS and vice-versa -- things like Hangouts and iMessage aside, the most important choice in your mobile OS in the coming years may not be UI or feature consistency, but rather synergy with our lives. When it comes down to it, whether you own an Android phone or an iPhone, the most important thing is that it integrates with you, the hardware disappears and the device becomes part of you. Wearables will only accelerate that. At that point, whether or not someone has iMessage or Hangouts won't matter -- the only thing that will matter is that we'll all be unmistakably connected.
iMessage is definitely the most convenient messaging app in phones today. Coupled with FaceTime, on no platform is it easier to connect with family and friends.
However, people with Android phones communicate just fine. You can video chat with Hangouts, too -- just as easily as you can with an iPhone. You can send a message via Hangouts the same way you can with an iPhone. You don't need to have a particular Android phone, either -- there are a lot more models that support Hangouts than iPhone models that support iMessage. People just don't really know about it, because google isn't pushing billions of dollars in ads to tell people you can video chat on an android phone.
iMessage is not unique or particularly more feature filled than Hangouts, nor is it more essential to the user experience. What Apple has is awareness of features, and a better integration into its OS. Hangouts will get there, but people have to be aware of its existence.
The beauty of an Android phone is its breadth of options, customization, and flexibility. This is also its biggest weakness, while Apple's biggest strength is stability and feature retention. Apple is slowly moving towards an Android-esque OS, with custom keyboards, widgets, new APIs, and of course a bigger screen phone and likely phablet.
Where Apple lagged, Android picked up but never found a singular approach. Android continues to improve at a faster rate than Apple is improving, but with the large lead Apple had, will it be enough?
Android L might be everything an Android user ever wanted when it comes to stability, feature consistency, and an overall cleaner, more stable experience. Apple's march towards openness and a willingness to listen to its customers can only help.
It's going to be an interesting few years. Android is becoming more like iOS and vice-versa -- things like Hangouts and iMessage aside, the most important choice in your mobile OS in the coming years may not be UI or feature consistency, but rather synergy with our lives. When it comes down to it, whether you own an Android phone or an iPhone, the most important thing is that it integrates with you, the hardware disappears and the device becomes part of you. Wearables will only accelerate that. At that point, whether or not someone has iMessage or Hangouts won't matter -- the only thing that will matter is that we'll all be unmistakably connected.
Great post. As others have stated, it all comes down to user experience. I honestly think Android is a cool OS. It's way cooler than iOS, and I loved being able to play emulators and old nostalgic games on my phone. You can't do that kind of stuff on iOS (not nearly as easily at least). I like things like being able to use my phone as a remote on Android, and hey, like I said, the OS is pretty fun to learn.
Alas, I've come to the realization that iOS is my overall preference. I support Android though. iOS needs competition to keep things exciting. Hopefully Windows Phones will get some momentum and really make things even more interesting.
And if Blackberry were able to.....yeah scratch that. Forget I even mentioned them.
Alas, I've come to the realization that iOS is my overall preference. I support Android though. iOS needs competition to keep things exciting. Hopefully Windows Phones will get some momentum and really make things even more interesting.
And if Blackberry were able to.....yeah scratch that. Forget I even mentioned them.
I'd suggest searching this forum you'll find more info on it then you could possibly care to read.
Eh, I'm already on this forum enough as it is. I've never experienced any of these issues with my iphones, wifes iphones, or any other iphones ive seen and used in the wild.
Why would you pick iPhone over the Galaxy S5?
So you called BS on someone with a statistic of near nothing (literally) and refuse to actually research it? Ooookay, anyway its pretty common issue with the lens, Apple typically won't warranty it as they claim it's normal as part of the autofocus. But as you pointed out you haven't seen any that have it so it's clearly a quality control issue.
So you called BS on someone with a statistic of near nothing (literally) and refuse to actually research it? Ooookay, anyway its pretty common issue with the lens, Apple typically won't warranty it as they claim it's normal as part of the autofocus. But as you pointed out you haven't seen any that have it so it's clearly a quality control issue.
I mean all the research in the world isn't going to change the fact that I've handled many, many iPhones and never thought to myself "Wow these volume buttons sure are wobbly." 
He's made his point. As myself and others have mentioned, the convenience factor and integration with iOS is the selling point and dealbreaker for some and that's what he refuses to recognize. My mom doesn't know what iMessage is and yet she uses it all the time. She doesn't know what the blue or green bubbles mean and she doesn't really care as long as it works.
I do believe iMessage is available from iPhone 3GS up. Isn't the minimum requirement just iOS 5? While plenty of Android phones are capable of supporting Hangouts, it was only recently that it came pre-installed on devices and even then, it's not the default SMS app. What Hangouts needs is better integration with Android. Google has replaced the default browser with Chrome and they need to do the same thing with Hangouts. That said, maybe someone can explain to me why Hangouts for iOS gets features such as voice over IP calling before the Android version does.
I quite agree.
I mean all the research in the world isn't going to change the fact that I've handled many, many iPhones and never thought to myself "Wow these volume buttons sure are wobbly."
I was talking about the camera rattle.
I personally never had a problem with an iPhone but I know plenty of people that have. 2 of my friends had their defective iPhone 5 power buttons replaced (Apple extended the warranty due to quality control). And my employer had his 5S replaced due to a rattle that made it as loud as a ringer when on vibrate.
I never really looked at the volume buttons on someone else's phone to know if they rattle or are wobbly or not.
Nobody I know has loose buttons on their iPhones. With over 50 million iPhone 5(s) and later models, there is bound to be some bad apples in the bunch. You got all of them for the entire world.
Also lucky you your samsung tablet doesn't rattle.
Last edited:
my iPhone 5 and 5s both had loose, wobbly volume buttons and power buttons. I didn't care though.
Why would you pick iPhone over the Galaxy S5?
I did have that problem once on my iPhone 5, the defective power button. That was before they issued the recall on them.
I did have that problem once on my iPhone 5, the defective power button. That was before they issued the recall on them.
Last edited:
Maybe you should read what I said. It wasn't up for discussion. Everyone I know uses LINE. they have all sorts of devices. LINE is universal to all, no matter which phone you have.
It doesn't matter what features LINE has. It matters that everyone is on it. Every student, mother, teacher, everyone. Even the school director. Everyone. So even if i had an iphone, i wouldn't use iMessage. I had an iphone and i only used it with my mom.
Especially since iOS is so limiting. If I'm chatting with someone in LINE and they sent me a picture and I want to send it to you, on my Android I would just hit the SHARE button and send it to any app I want, but on the iPhone if I'm chatting with you on iMessage and someone else in LINE then I would have to save those pictures then open iMessage then search for you then browse the picture and attach it. It is retarded. That's one of the reasons I love Android. I get things done much faster.
So for iPhone especially its better to just stay on LINE instead of using iMessage and then jump back and forth between chat apps. It is easier to keep everyone in one place.
If you use it and everyone you know uses it then congratulations to you.
The point is, you go where your friends are. If everyone you know left Facebook and went somewhere else you would just follow them. You wouldn't stay on Facebook and talk to yourself.
----------
My iPhone 4s (belongs to my wife now) has a loose power button on top. Since I took it out of the box. I never thought of it as an issue though.
My iPhone 4's home button died after about 8 months. I got the 4s after that. The iPhone 4 was the worst phone ever released by apple.
Last edited:
Android has some other issues to go along with that. For starters, the hangouts app, for all its merits, still doesn't show contact names in chats with non-google phone numbers (WTF? SERIOUSLY?). Not to mention Google Voice has gone from a great idea to underreported, to left in the dust.
I also don't feel like either Apple has a big lead or Android is catching up and improving faster. For all intents and purposes, they have evolved step by step since Android 4.0 and iOS 5 with each offering a slightly different experience.
Any real "shortcomings" from the android side I tend to attribute to the nature of OEM bloatware. Samsung has been doing notifications since the Galaxy S, and back the Nexus One was probably the only pure android phone (i'm speculating). More recently, it's becoming clear Google intends to encompass the entire phone experience in place of OEM software.
I know how to change default apps. However, there are plenty of non-techies who don't know. That's why if Google wants people to use Hangouts, they need to set it as the default SMS app much like what they did with Chrome. Sure, folks can still download alternate browsers and SMS apps. However, I reckon few users bother with that and most just use whatever is the OS default.
Uhhh. When you open hangouts for the first time it asks you. DO YOU WANT HANGOUTS TO BE THE DEFAULT SMS APP. Then you click TURN ON SMS.
Then it even tells you where to go to change it.
That's technical for you?
----------
Works exactly like imessage. Those with gmail get hangouts those without get text messages.
