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I mean, yeah, it's cool. But it doesn't necessarily work all the time, Idk if it's as secure as it should be, but it's not as fast as Touch ID was for me.

For me, that was what I felt bad for Samsung about. They'd made this beautiful, stunning, well built phone FULL of party tricks and cool features (like the heart rate sensor on the back)... and yet... the iPhone with its simplicity, robustness and focus only on serious implementations of the serious features we value, which all just work.. won out.
I have note 10 plus from iPhone x max...and yes it doesn't always work 100 percent but it works most of the time. That being said, I create multiple thumb profiles so that it will quickly be recognized.
 

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I have note 10 plus from iPhone x max...and yes it doesn't always work 100 percent but it works most of the time. That being said, I create multiple thumb profiles so that it will quickly be recognized.
The facial recognition, although it isn't secure is good enough to unlock the phone. The FPS is perfect for everything else.
 

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I have note 10 plus from iPhone x max...and yes it doesn't always work 100 percent but it works most of the time. That being said, I create multiple thumb profiles so that it will quickly be recognized.

I have had no more difficulty with the FPS on the Samsung S10+ that I did on my previous iPhones (excepting the X with didn't have it). At least not after initial use. I did have trouble once in a while the first couple of days, but I observed the angle of my thumb on the sensor in real-time use vs how I initially set it up and rescanned to reflect the real-time use angles. Now no problem.

My wife actually had a lot more problem with the power-on fingerprint scanner on her 10e, particularly with certain cases such as the Quadlock, which motivated her to swap it for a Note 10 and the under-display sensor.

Under display fingerprint scanner is likely coming to Apple soon as well.
https://beebom.com/2019-iphone-under-display-fingerprint-scanner-china/
 
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I have had no more difficulty with the FPS on the Samsung S10+ that I did on my previous iPhones (excepting the X with didn't have it). At least not after initial use. I did have trouble once in a while the first couple of days, but I observed the angle of my thumb on the sensor in real-time use vs how I initially set it up and rescanned to reflect the real-time use angles. Now no problem.

My wife actually had a lot more problem with the power-on fingerprint scanner on her 10e, particularly with certain cases such as the Quadlock, which motivated her to swap it for a Note 10 and the under-display sensor.

Under display fingerprint scanner is likely coming to Apple soon as well.
https://beebom.com/2019-iphone-under-display-fingerprint-scanner-china/
I actually like fps. I can care less about apple. It's too boring.
 
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The iPhone 11 is just the same phone as the iPhone X. So why spend so much money buying the same phone twice. Geekbench warriors will disagree drooling how much higher scores they get, but in real world usage it is the same phone.

Better buy a Samsung Note 10+ and have the best of both worlds alongside your “old” iPhone X.
The difference in the OS?
 

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I have had no more difficulty with the FPS on the Samsung S10+ that I did on my previous iPhones (excepting the X with didn't have it). At least not after initial use. I did have trouble once in a while the first couple of days, but I observed the angle of my thumb on the sensor in real-time use vs how I initially set it up and rescanned to reflect the real-time use angles. Now no problem.

My wife actually had a lot more problem with the power-on fingerprint scanner on her 10e, particularly with certain cases such as the Quadlock, which motivated her to swap it for a Note 10 and the under-display sensor.

Under display fingerprint scanner is likely coming to Apple soon as well.
https://beebom.com/2019-iphone-under-display-fingerprint-scanner-china/

Did you keep The built-in screen protector on or did you remove it?

There’s also videos of The unlocking performance between the S 10 plus and the no 10+ versus the one+7 pro and the one plus was way faster.

Does the unlock speed bother you at all and how many attempts does it take you to unlock the phone with the FPS?
 

SDColorado

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Did you keep The built-in screen protector on or did you remove it?

There’s also videos of The unlocking performance between the S 10 plus and the no 10+ versus the one+7 pro and the one plus was way faster.

Does the unlock speed bother you at all and how many attempts does it take you to unlock the phone with the FPS?
I have the screen saver still on and just haven't had any problems of note in getting the phone unlocked. No more than I ever had with getting iPads or iPhones unlocked. For me at least, it seems to just work. I have no complaints with it.

Edit: I just unlocked my phone like 30 times in a row and it unlocked first try every time. Perhaps everyone is different, but I honestly don't have a problem with its accuracy or speed.
 

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and have a phone that is slower than the last two iPhone generations. Add to that the bad standby life and the mediocre software that is available on Android. It sounds like a bargain
And in speed and battery test the note 10 beats the xs by a large margin. But you'll find some way to justify why those test are fake.
 

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And in speed and battery test the note 10 beats the xs by a large margin. But you'll find some way to justify why those test are fake.
Animation speed, nors the actual performance and battery test is useless when phone has almost 1000 mha more juice.
 

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Animation speed, nors the actual performance and battery test is useless when phone has almost 1000 mha more juice.
Why is a battery test useless just because one phone has a bigger battery than the other? You either get better battery life or you don't.

As for speed tests, absolute waste of time in real world use. And people who use those results with words like 'destroy' need to give their head a shake. lol
 

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Excuse me? Logic is calling ...
It doesn't matter. A phone could have a massive battery and a big display but only get 4 hours use. Another could have a much smaller battery but smaller display and get much longer use.

Either a phone is equipped to last a long time or it's not.
 
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Animation speed, nors the actual performance and battery test is useless when phone has almost 1000 mha more juice.
So now you're going to blame android manufacturers for putting in a large battery? Who cares if it has 1000mha more battery?
So if Apple makes a phone with a 100 mha battery, it's better because it would last longer than an android with 100 Mha?

You Apple defenders will say any nonsense to defend Apple.

Do you really think people think hmm, I rather an iphone because although it doesnt last as long as a Note 10+, it is more efficient with its smaller battery so let me get that.

Animation speed doesnt matter, the Note 10 blows the iPhone xs away in speed tests.

How can one possibly say the xs last longer and is faster when tests proves it doesnt?
 
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Lost me at Android. :p

I don't get the "iPhones are always the same" while saying the S/S+ and Note series are somehow completely different. The S9+ and Note 9 might as well have been the same phone just the Note came with a Pen that I used all of 3 times, same with S10+ and Note 10. Personally I can't stand Android, it always annoys me and I can't wait to get rid of it. There are probably people that are like that in regards to iOS too. It really boils down to use what you like best and stop worrying about what other people use.
 

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The iPhone 11 is just the same phone as the iPhone X. So why spend so much money buying the same phone twice. Geekbench warriors will disagree drooling how much higher scores they get, but in real world usage it is the same phone.

Better buy a Samsung Note 10+ and have the best of both worlds alongside your “old” iPhone X.

haha. I don't get the people who say iPhones are tough and they will last for years. However, they used to replace their iPhone yearly.
 
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The iPhone 11 is just the same phone as the iPhone X. So why spend so much money buying the same phone twice. Geekbench warriors will disagree drooling how much higher scores they get, but in real world usage it is the same phone.

Better buy a Samsung Note 10+ and have the best of both worlds alongside your “old” iPhone X.
You sound like a Samsung AD lol
 

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Devoted Apple users love to whine and laugh at Android and its “gimmicks”—while they are doing that, it’s Android manufacturers that are innovating and it’s Apple that will implement their innovations into the iPhone years later and it’s Apple users who will call these implementations revolutionary. A folded phone; Project Soli; the S Pen; reverse wireless charging; an in-display fingerprint reader; and etc. These aren’t Apple “innovations,” but Apple will take credit for them years later.

But it’s a testament to Apple in its ability to mesmerize its user base and iOS app makers (who don’t take Android seriously)—they must have a fantastic team of psychologists who tell the company exactly how to grow and sustain its user base via marketing. I don’t think Android will ever truly shed the “cheap” moniker that has been assigned to it by Apple and its users, which is sad. I feel bad for certain iOS users. It’s like they’re in a Stockholm syndrome relationship with Apple.

I love my iPhone, but damn, am I missing out on real innovation (not “innovation”) every time I use it. I feel stifled. The only things that are holding me back from switching is iMessage, app refinement, and security. But I do think the Note 10+ will be my next phone.
 
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Devoted Apple users love to whine and laugh at Android and its “gimmicks”—while they are doing that, it’s Android manufacturers that are innovating and it’s Apple that will implement their innovations into the iPhone years later and it’s Apple users who will call these implementations revolutionary. A folded phone; Project Soli; the S Pen; reverse wireless charging; an in-display fingerprint reader; and etc. These aren’t Apple “innovations,” but Apple will take credit for them years later.

But it’s a testament to Apple in its ability to mesmerize its user base and iOS app makers (who don’t take Android seriously)—they must have a fantastic team of psychologists who tell the company exactly how to grow and sustain its user base via marketing. I don’t think Android will ever truly shed the “cheap” moniker that has been assigned to it by Apple and its users, which is sad. I feel bad for certain iOS users. It’s like they’re in a Stockholm syndrome relationship with Apple.

I love my iPhone, but damn, am I missing out on real innovation (not “innovation”) every time I use it. I feel stifled. The only things that are holding me back from switching is iMessage, app refinement, and security. But I do think the Note 10+ will be my next phone.
Hold on now, Apple is giving the new iPhone NFC. Only took about 6-7 years after Android had it. And of course you get the $1200 price tag or there abouts for the cheap one.
 

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Devoted Apple users love to whine and laugh at Android and its “gimmicks”—while they are doing that, it’s Android manufacturers that are innovating and it’s Apple that will implement their innovations into the iPhone years later and it’s Apple users who will call these implementations revolutionary. A folded phone; Project Soli; the S Pen; reverse wireless charging; an in-display fingerprint reader; and etc. These aren’t Apple “innovations,” but Apple will take credit for them years later.

But it’s a testament to Apple in its ability to mesmerize its user base and iOS app makers (who don’t take Android seriously)—they must have a fantastic team of psychologists who tell the company exactly how to grow and sustain its user base via marketing. I don’t think Android will ever truly shed the “cheap” moniker that has been assigned to it by Apple and its users, which is sad. I feel bad for certain iOS users. It’s like they’re in a Stockholm syndrome relationship with Apple.

I love my iPhone, but damn, am I missing out on real innovation (not “innovation”) every time I use it. I feel stifled. The only things that are holding me back from switching is iMessage, app refinement, and security. But I do think the Note 10+ will be my next phone.
And you call a barely working on screen fingerprint sensor innovation? I’m probably one of the few that’s not biased on this forum, but you have to be extremely “blind” not to see innovation on the new iPhone.
 

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The companies clearly have different values. Apples values are widely different than probably any Other manufacturer that utilizes Android. Doesn’t mean one is better than the other, just different.

It’s been a while since the majority of folks were just badmouthing android phones. I think the S pen is great, I wouldn’t say that the Note 10 has any more innovation over the Note 9 than the iPhone 11 has over the XS. ?‍♂️

Also, not sure I’d tout the folding Samsung phone too much. Apple will do whatever they have to do to never recall a product like that. Different values, both are ok and good for the industry. It’s a testament to Samsung’s fan base that they stick with them after launches like that.

In display fingerprint reader is no more innovative than FaceID, and I prefer FaceID rather than trying to find a random spot on the phone to unlock. If I had both, I’d use both for different things.

Reverse charging.. honestly can’t think of a reason to use this.. the chargers are the same. Maybe I would if I had it but I honestly couldn’t care less if it never comes to iPhone.

Apple will take credit for their implementation of things,they usually do things differently than their android competitors, most of the time it’s better but not always.

Competition is good. I hope they all do great and I’m excited to see what the pixel 4 brings to market even though I won’t buy it.
 

IowaLynn

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Nothing random about where the finger print sensor is on S10+ as it clearly shows where and hard to miss. Very easy. On iPhone X Face ID is slow(er) but I'm lazy at times.

Won't have 11 Max until mid October. Assume it's *new improved faster - but 2 ounces heavier ?
 

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And you call a barely working on screen fingerprint sensor innovation? I’m probably one of the few that’s not biased on this forum, but you have to be extremely “blind” not to see innovation on the new iPhone.

"Barely working" in screen fingerprint sensor? Barely working? You CLEARLY don't have a Note 10+, because that is flat out not true at all. It works and works very well. You're just making things up at this point. As for your statement about having to be "extremely blind not to see innovation on the new iPhone", I guess I'd have to be one of those "extremely blind" people. But let me ask you, what exactly is innovative in that phone? Please be specific.
 
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It’s been a while since the majority of folks were just badmouthing android phones. I think the S pen is great, I wouldn’t say that the Note 10 has any more innovation over the Note 9 than the iPhone 11 has over the XS. ?‍♂️
Innovation, probably not, as innovation means bringing something new. That said, it did bring a slew of upgrades along with some innovation, that made it a worthy upgrade (this coming from a person who upgrade from a Note 9 to Note 10+). A half inch larger display in the same size body is a pretty innovative feat, 45w charging capability is, in screen fingerprint scanner, camera addition, Bixby routines, and more (there are more things to name but in the interest of time, I won't) all combine as reasons I felt this a good reason to upgrade from the Note 9. After weeks of having the phone, I still feel the same way.

Also, not sure I’d tout the folding Samsung phone too much. Apple will do whatever they have to do to never recall a product like that. Different values, both are ok and good for the industry. It’s a testament to Samsung’s fan base that they stick with them after launches like that.
It's all a part of being on the cutting edge of technology and innovation. You're right, Apple will do what they have to do to never take a risk...even if that means releasing something 5 years late.


In display fingerprint reader is no more innovative than FaceID, and I prefer FaceID rather than trying to find a random spot on the phone to unlock. If I had both, I’d use both for different things.
That is an absurd statement. FaceID is not innovative, because face unlock had been out for around a half a decade by the time iPhone got their rendition of it. Conversely, in screen fingerprint scanners is an innovation (something new). As for the preferring FaceID "rather than trying to find a random spot on the phone to unlock", is as ridiculous a statement as I've seen on this post. First and foremost, you show you have no idea what you're talking about, as the spot isn't random, nor is it difficult to find. The phone actually shows you where to place your finger. Not to mention, muscle memory will have you hit the spot with ease anyway, just as it did with the virtual home button the Galaxy phones have had for the last few years (where you could hard press it and it would act as a home button even with nothing there). Then to say what you prefer over something you clearly have no experience with, doesn't even make sense, and is a completely invalid statement.

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Reverse charging.. honestly can’t think of a reason to use this.. the chargers are the same. Maybe I would if I had it but I honestly couldn’t care less if it never comes to iPhone.[/quote}]
Well of course you can't think of a reason to use it, because you're an Apple fan, you're limited in what you have, so you wouldn't be thinking of that. Me on the other hand, as someone who's phone is a more capable device can. I use the reverse charging on my wireless ear buds. I particularly use it when I go out of town. I only take one usb cable with me (a c to c cable). At night when I'm in my hotel room, I just plug my phone up, and while it's on the charger, I sit the earbuds on the phone and go to bed. When I wake up, both my earbuds and my phone are completely charged. That has also come in handy when my girl had lost her charger, and we just sat her phone on top of mine while mine was on the charger while we slept. We both woke up to fully charged phones, though we only had one cable between us.

Apple will take credit for their implementation of things,they usually do things differently than their android competitors, most of the time it’s better but not always.
"Most of the time it's better"? No...Most of the time it's just a shameless imitation, and many times it's a less capable attempt. Just look at their "new" fast charging... It's pathetic, and not remote close to being "better".
 

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In display fingerprint reader is no more innovative than FaceID, and I prefer FaceID rather than trying to find a random spot on the phone to unlock. If I had both, I’d use both for different things.

I 100% agree. An in-screen finger print reader that's limited to a small areas of the screen doesn't appeal to me.

The finger print reader on the Pixel 2 XL is dead easy to find because it's on the back and is a recess. I now have an 11 Pro Max and am adjusting to it.

Unlocking is certainly a bit slower than on the Pixel 2 XL, especially as I need to swipe up and when the phone is on the bed side table I need to deliberately look at it. However I don't need to use my index finger to tap the finger print reader on the back. It's a trade-off.
 

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"Barely working" in screen fingerprint sensor? Barely working? You CLEARLY don't have a Note 10+, because that is flat out not true at all. It works and works very well. You're just making things up at this point. As for your statement about having to be "extremely blind not to see innovation on the new iPhone", I guess I'd have to be one of those "extremely blind" people. But let me ask you, what exactly is innovative in that phone? Please be specific.
I do not have a note 10. I considered getting one this year but from the videos I’ve seen the fingerprint sensor is not 100% reliable. iPhone innovation this year? Let me break it down to you. Three lenses which beat the hell out of the Note 10 (go check comparisons), being able to use the wide and telephoto lens to record at 4K 60 FPS with incredible stabilization which crops at 9%! Yes the Note crops at 31% and the stabilization is still bad. The Note can only record at 4K 60 FPS on the regular lens.
Incredible battery life for a phone with lower MA than competition (already beat the Note), thanks to it’s advanced A13 chip which has no competition at all. Deep Fusion coming this year, which takes 8 shots as soon as you open the camera, combines the shots, exposes the necessary, to give you a realistic and detailed picture. All of this done in milliseconds without the user even noticing, again thanks to its revolutionary A13 CPU. The highest end GPU on a phone which only goes to improve visuals and the way we consume media on our phones. Highest brightness on a smartphone to date, being able to recognize HDR scenes and go even further up to 1200 Nits all of this while preserving a huge amount of battery life.
Highest video quality on a phone. Highest audio quality (speakers, microphone) My Note 8 didn’t even come close to the microphone quality of my iPhone 6 during calls. The Speakers on the Note push the high mids a TON to make the user think the sound quality is clean, but then it lacks low mids and punch, very noticiable with kick drums.
REAL audio zoom, Samsung is tricking its users. Instead of using Real audio zoom like the iPhone 11, the output is only being increased as you zoom on the subject. This is not how audio zoom works. It’s supposed to zoom into the subject and MUTE the audio that’s not being visible by the screen.
The Note still lacks proper HDR on the camera, highlights are completely blown and the skins still look pale. 3D scanner that is a joke, even on the Unpacked event it did a terrible job. Low light mode still bad compared to the Pixel, and iPhone.
Being able to switch lenses smoothly while recording video, instead of the glitchy way on the Note, again thanks to its innovative A13 CPU.
These are some examples. I could go on and on...
 
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