Why you should get an Android phone

[Macpro2019]

Devoted Apple users love to whine and laugh at Android and its “gimmicks”—while they are doing that, it’s Android manufacturers that are innovating and it’s Apple that will implement their innovations into the iPhone years later and it’s Apple users who will call these implementations revolutionary. A folded phone; Project Soli; the S Pen; reverse wireless charging; an in-display fingerprint reader; and etc. These aren’t Apple “innovations,” but Apple will take credit for them years later.

But it’s a testament to Apple in its ability to mesmerize its user base and iOS app makers (who don’t take Android seriously)—they must have a fantastic team of psychologists who tell the company exactly how to grow and sustain its user base via marketing. I don’t think Android will ever truly shed the “cheap” moniker that has been assigned to it by Apple and its users, which is sad. I feel bad for certain iOS users. It’s like they’re in a Stockholm syndrome relationship with Apple.

I love my iPhone, but damn, am I missing out on real innovation (not “innovation”) every time I use it. I feel stifled. The only things that are holding me back from switching is iMessage, app refinement, and security. But I do think the Note 10+ will be my next phone.

iOS is......same ol thing...

 

[drinkingtea]

I do not have a note 10. I considered getting one this year but from the videos I’ve seen the fingerprint sensor is not 100% reliable. iPhone innovation this year? Let me break it down to you. Three lenses which beat the hell out of the Note 10 (go check comparisons), being able to use the wide and telephoto lens to record at 4K 60 FPS with incredible stabilization which crops at 9%! Yes the Note crops at 31% and the stabilization is still bad. The Note can only record at 4K 60 FPS on the regular lens.
Incredible battery life for a phone with lower MA than competition (already beat the Note), thanks to it’s advanced A13 chip which has no competition at all. Deep Fusion coming this year, which takes 8 shots as soon as you open the camera, combines the shots, exposes the necessary, to give you a realistic and detailed picture. All of this done in milliseconds without the user even noticing, again thanks to its revolutionary A13 CPU. The highest end GPU on a phone which only goes to improve visuals and the way we consume media on our phones. Highest brightness on a smartphone to date, being able to recognize HDR scenes and go even further up to 1200 Nits all of this while preserving a huge amount of battery life.
Highest video quality on a phone. Highest audio quality (speakers, microphone) My Note 8 didn’t even come close to the microphone quality of my iPhone 6 during calls. The Speakers on the Note push the high mids a TON to make the user think the sound quality is clean, but then it lacks low mids and punch, very noticiable with kick drums.
REAL audio zoom, Samsung is tricking its users. Instead of using Real audio zoom like the iPhone 11, the output is only being increased as you zoom on the subject. This is not how audio zoom works. It’s supposed to zoom into the subject and MUTE the audio that’s not being visible by the screen.
The Note still lacks proper HDR on the camera, highlights are completely blown and the skins still look pale. 3D scanner that is a joke, even on the Unpacked event it did a terrible job. Low light mode still bad compared to the Pixel, and iPhone.
Being able to switch lenses smoothly while recording video, instead of the glitchy way on the Note, again thanks to its innovative A13 CPU.
These are some examples. I could go on and on...

“Revolutionary A13 CPU” Speed tests on YouTube between the 11 Pro Max and Note 10+ show little variation in speed between the two phones except in video processing.

Anyway. I don’t have the time or patience to fully reply to... this.

 

[1050792]

“Revolutionary A13 CPU” Speed tests on YouTube between the 11 Pro Max and Note 10+ show little variation in speed between the two phones except in video processing.

Anyway. I don’t have the time or patience to fully reply to... this.

We aren’t taking about App opening speed, we are talking where it matters. Take this example you have 2 PC’s. The PC X has a lower end SSD and a higher end CPU while the PC Y has a higher end SSD with a lower end CPU. The PC X loses to PC Y by 1 second when opening up applications. Which one do you still think that it’s going to give you better frame rates in games, video and photo editing, and stable performance all around? I thought I didn’t have to explain how hardware and software works around here but guess I do...

 

[drinkingtea]

We aren’t taking about App opening speed, we are talking where it matters. Take this example you have 2 PC’s. The PC X has a lower end SSD and a higher end CPU while the PC Y has a higher end SSD with a lower end CPU. The PC X loses to PC Y by 1 second when opening up applications. Which one do you still think that it’s going to give you better frame rates in games, video and photo editing, and stable performance all around? I thought I didn’t have to explain how hardware and software works around here but guess I do...

I don’t have time; you wrote an essay. I’m an Apple user and I agree that the iPhone is an all-around better phone performance-wise, but the way some Apple users defend Apple, whew. It’s like the company can’t do anything wrong. And as an Apple fan, I will admit that the iPhone is stale and, IMO, looks dated in comparison to the competition. A “Pro” phone and it only starts with 64GB of RAM and no pencil support and etc. Lord, lmao. At least companies like Google, Samsung, and OnePlus take chances. Their attempts might not be perfect, but at least they take them.

 

[1050792]

I don’t have time; you wrote an essay. I’m an Apple user and I agree that the iPhone is an all-around better phone performance-wise, but the way some Apple users defend Apple, whew. It’s like the company can’t do anything wrong. And as an Apple fan, I will admit that the iPhone is stale and, IMO, looks dated in comparison to the competition. A “Pro” phone and it only starts with 64GB of RAM and no pencil support and etc. Lord, lmao. At least companies like Google, Samsung, and OnePlus take chances. Their attempts might not be perfect, but at least they take them.

So you just agreed with me. All in all im not defending Apple, I'm stating the obvious. You are free to check my post history to see how an Apple fanboy I am. I repeat. This year Apple killed it. iPhone 11 Pro > Note 10. Period.
If I wrote an essay and you didn't take time to read it properly thats your problem.
I clearly stated the innovations iPhone has made this year as asked. Innovations that the Note 10 still isn't able to to.

 

[nrvna76]

Innovation, probably not, as innovation means bringing something new. That said, it did bring a slew of upgrades along with some innovation, that made it a worthy upgrade (this coming from a person who upgrade from a Note 9 to Note 10+). A half inch larger display in the same size body is a pretty innovative feat, 45w charging capability is, in screen fingerprint scanner, camera addition, Bixby routines, and more (there are more things to name but in the interest of time, I won't) all combine as reasons I felt this a good reason to upgrade from the Note 9. After weeks of having the phone, I still feel the same way.


It's all a part of being on the cutting edge of technology and innovation. You're right, Apple will do what they have to do to never take a risk...even if that means releasing something 5 years late.



That is an absurd statement. FaceID is not innovative, because face unlock had been out for around a half a decade by the time iPhone got their rendition of it. Conversely, in screen fingerprint scanners is an innovation (something new). As for the preferring FaceID "rather than trying to find a random spot on the phone to unlock", is as ridiculous a statement as I've seen on this post. First and foremost, you show you have no idea what you're talking about, as the spot isn't random, nor is it difficult to find. The phone actually shows you where to place your finger. Not to mention, muscle memory will have you hit the spot with ease anyway, just as it did with the virtual home button the Galaxy phones have had for the last few years (where you could hard press it and it would act as a home button even with nothing there). Then to say what you prefer over something you clearly have no experience with, doesn't even make sense, and is a completely invalid statement.

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Reverse charging.. honestly can’t think of a reason to use this.. the chargers are the same. Maybe I would if I had it but I honestly couldn’t care less if it never comes to iPhone.[/quote}]
Well of course you can't think of a reason to use it, because you're an Apple fan, you're limited in what you have, so you wouldn't be thinking of that. Me on the other hand, as someone who's phone is a more capable device can. I use the reverse charging on my wireless ear buds. I particularly use it when I go out of town. I only take one usb cable with me (a c to c cable). At night when I'm in my hotel room, I just plug my phone up, and while it's on the charger, I sit the earbuds on the phone and go to bed. When I wake up, both my earbuds and my phone are completely charged. That has also come in handy when my girl had lost her charger, and we just sat her phone on top of mine while mine was on the charger while we slept. We both woke up to fully charged phones, though we only had one cable between us.


"Most of the time it's better"? No...Most of the time it's just a shameless imitation, and many times it's a less capable attempt. Just look at their "new" fast charging... It's pathetic, and not remote close to being "better".

I clearly stated in my post that both companies have their values and it shows in their products. I didn’t say one was better than the other. You.. can’t live with your choices unless you go on forums and tell anybody who chooses Apple products that you are better. It’s ridiculous. You crack me up by saying faceID is not innovative because face unlock has existed for a while, but in display fingerprint scanners are innovative, lol makes absolutely no sense.

 

[drinkingtea]

So you just agreed with me. All in all im not defending Apple, I'm stating the obvious. You are free to check my post history to see how an Apple fanboy I am. I repeat. This year Apple killed it. iPhone 11 Pro > Note 10. Period.

I don’t agree with everything you wrote. Stop twisting my words. That’s great. I’m leaning more towards the Note 10+ because of the S Pen and other benefits. To each their own.

 

[Joe h]

The android os is ass, way too much shovel ware(iOS has its share too, but not even in the ballpark bad), cluttered, difficult to find settings, always runs hot because so much **** is running in the background, and I don’t trust google with privacy. When I first turn a phone on out of the box, I just want a blank screen, or closest to a blank screen.

 

[jamezr]

I do not have a note 10. I considered getting one this year but from the videos I’ve seen the fingerprint sensor is not 100% reliable. iPhone innovation this year? Let me break it down to you. Three lenses which beat the hell out of the Note 10 (go check comparisons), being able to use the wide and telephoto lens to record at 4K 60 FPS with incredible stabilization which crops at 9%! Yes the Note crops at 31% and the stabilization is still bad. The Note can only record at 4K 60 FPS on the regular lens.
Incredible battery life for a phone with lower MA than competition (already beat the Note), thanks to it’s advanced A13 chip which has no competition at all. Deep Fusion coming this year, which takes 8 shots as soon as you open the camera, combines the shots, exposes the necessary, to give you a realistic and detailed picture. All of this done in milliseconds without the user even noticing, again thanks to its revolutionary A13 CPU. The highest end GPU on a phone which only goes to improve visuals and the way we consume media on our phones. Highest brightness on a smartphone to date, being able to recognize HDR scenes and go even further up to 1200 Nits all of this while preserving a huge amount of battery life.
Highest video quality on a phone. Highest audio quality (speakers, microphone) My Note 8 didn’t even come close to the microphone quality of my iPhone 6 during calls. The Speakers on the Note push the high mids a TON to make the user think the sound quality is clean, but then it lacks low mids and punch, very noticiable with kick drums.
REAL audio zoom, Samsung is tricking its users. Instead of using Real audio zoom like the iPhone 11, the output is only being increased as you zoom on the subject. This is not how audio zoom works. It’s supposed to zoom into the subject and MUTE the audio that’s not being visible by the screen.
The Note still lacks proper HDR on the camera, highlights are completely blown and the skins still look pale. 3D scanner that is a joke, even on the Unpacked event it did a terrible job. Low light mode still bad compared to the Pixel, and iPhone.
Being able to switch lenses smoothly while recording video, instead of the glitchy way on the Note, again thanks to its innovative A13 CPU.
These are some examples. I could go on and on...

I do have the Note 10+ and an Xs Max and a 11 Pro Max. Side by side by side the Note is faster and more responsive to use than either iphone. Call clarity is better on the Note 10+ than the Xs Max and about the same on the Pro Max. The Note 10+ camera tends to blow out some colors in an attempt to lighten shots. The Pro Max camera while more life like...tends to miss some definition.
The Note 10+ camera is better than the Xs max....it just is.... and right on par with the Pro Max as well. There are some shots where the Note 10+ wins and some where the Pro Max wins. they are pretty even IMHO.
I haven't tested video..

Cellular/Wifi speeds when compared.......the Note 10+ with the Qualcomm modem and chipset wins.

I am primarily an iphone user....my iphone is my daily driver. But if it weren't for the curved display on the Note 10+....I think I would probably use it more than my iPhones. I like flat displays....my personal preference.

I think people should be careful not to buy in on all the hype of the Apple keynotes. They tend to make it sound like they invented sliced bread so to speak.
For me iPhones provide a great overall user experience. The Pixel line up is closest Android has come to matching that and sometimes surpasses it.

Benchmarks mean nothing in real life usage......they just are meaningless except for someone to brag about. When using phones......the benchmarks numbers fade away.

 

[1050792]

I do have the Note 10+ and an Xs Max and a 11 Pro Max. Side by side by side the Note is faster and more responsive to use than either iphone. Call clarity is better on the Note 10+ than the Xs Max and about the same on the Pro Max. The Note 10+ camera tends to blow out some colors in an attempt to lighten shots. The Pro Max camera while more life like...tends to miss some definition.
The Note 10+ camera is better than the Xs max....it just is.... and right on par with the Pro Max as well. There are some shots where the Note 10+ wins and some where the Pro Max wins. they are pretty even IMHO.
I haven't tested video..

Cellular/Wifi speeds when compared.......the Note 10+ with the Qualcomm modem and chipset wins.

I am primarily an iphone user....my iphone is my daily driver. But if it weren't for the curved display on the Note 10+....I think I would probably use it more than my iPhones. I like flat displays....my personal preference.

I think people should be careful not to buy in on all the hype of the Apple keynotes. They tend to make it sound like they invented sliced bread so to speak.
For me iPhones provide a great overall user experience. The Pixel line up is closest Android has come to matching that and sometimes surpasses it.

Benchmarks mean nothing in real life usage......they just are meaningless except for someone to brag about. When using phones......the benchmarks numbers fade away.

I don't buy into hype unless I know for certain how a function is working.
Before continuing the conversation with you, did you receive your Pro Max?

 

[jamezr]

I don't buy into hype unless I know for certain how a function is working.
Before continuing the conversation with you, did you receive your Pro Max?

I thought I said as much in the first sentence of my post.....
People should be careful not to buy into the Apple keynotes and what they say their new chips will do. They always claim whatever they do is faster better and just better overall. Some times it is true...sometimes it is just pure marketing. I always roll my eyes when I see someone post almost the exact words from a keynote....

Anyway.....i'm off to run errands.

 

[1050792]

I thought I said as much in the first sentence of my post.....
People should be careful not to buy into the Apple keynotes and what they say their new chips will do. They always claim whatever they do is faster better and just better overall. Some times it is true...sometimes it is just pure marketing. I always roll my eyes when I see someone post almost the exact words from a keynote....

Anyway.....i'm off to run errands.

My words aren't based on the keynote but on video comparisons I've watched with the Pro and Note side by side.
Since you seem to be running away and didn't bother to answer my question, there's really no point in keeping this discussion. I thought the Android community was more open minded here... guess not. Anyway good luck.

 

[michael9891]

Snce you seem to be running away and didn't bother to answer my question, there's really no point in keeping this discussion.

The only question I can see is if he has his Pro Max? Which his post clearly states he does.

 

[jamezr]

My words aren't based on the keynote but on video comparisons I've watched with the Pro and Note side by side.
Since you seem to be running away and didn't bother to answer my question, there's really no point in keeping this discussion. I thought the Android community was more open minded here... guess not. Anyway good luck.

At the gym at moment then the car wash then an oil change for my truck.

But the very first sentence of my post I answered your question.....

I do have the Note 10+ and an Xs Max and a 11 Pro Max.

There are more than one POV.....

You might have a better grasp if you used the Note 10+ side by side with the 11 Pro Max or even the Xs Max

 

[1050792]

At the gym at moment then the car wash then an oil change for my truck.

But the very first sentence of my post I answered your question.....



There are more than one POV.....

You might have a better grasp if you used the Note 10+ side by side with the 11 Pro Max or even the Xs Max

There's no POV when you see it side by side with the same result on every video.
I can't compare both since my Pro Max hasn't shipped yet.
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The only question I can see is if he has his Pro Max? Which his post clearly states he does.

The way he talks seemed like he still doesn't have it, for saying that the XS Max camera quallity is similar to the Pro Max, I'd like his insight about this.

 

[jamezr]

There's no POV when you see it side by side with the same result on every video.
I can't compare both since my Pro Max hasn't shipped yet..

You are going by the POV of whomever put together the videos you are watching. Some have agendas.....

Funny how benchmarks and those stupid side by side video comparisons vary in results.

Pro Apple videos trounce all the competition.

Then the Pro Android videos trounce the iPhones.

 

[1050792]

You are going by the POV of whomever put together the videos you are watching. Some have agendas.....

Funny how benchmarks and those stupid side by side video comparisons vary in results.

Pro Apple videos trounce all the competition.

Then the Pro Android videos trounce the iPhones.

Not true this year. You should take a look instead. The iPhone totally blows the Note in every single aspect. Unless you want an SPen, which 99% of users couldn't care less.

 

[Macpro2019]

Note 10 plus well balanced phone.

 

[jamezr]

Not true this year. You should take a look instead. The iPhone totally blows the Note in every single aspect. Unless you want an SPen, which 99% of users couldn't care less.

that is your opinion......you can state it as fact all you want...it still is just your opinion.
The iPhone 11 is a great phone and I love mine. It is my daily driver right now.
But it does not blow the Note 10 away in every aspect.
S-Pen...as you mentioned....that is one aspect the Note wins...so your argument just fell apart stating it blows it away in every aspect. Then there is SD Card......back up to an SD card....so many options.
Wirelessly charging other devices....like earphones.....smart watches....other phones.

 

[1050792]

that is your opinion......you can state it as fact all you want...it still is just your opinion.
The iPhone 11 is a great phone and I love mine. It is my daily driver right now.
But it does not blow the Note 10 away in every aspect.
S-Pen...as you mentioned....that is one aspect the Note wins...so your argument just fell apart stating it blows it away in every aspect. Then there is SD Card......back up to an SD card....so many options.
Wirelessly charging other devices....like earphones.....smart watches....other phones.

I do agree about reverse wireless charging although it's a feature most user's couldn't care less. Yet it's not my main point.
I was asked in which areas the iPhone innovated and I pointed most of them out. Just because the Note has a feature that's not available on the iPhone, doesn't necessarily mean that it didin't innovate.

 

[jamezr]

I do agree about reverse wireless charging although it's a feature most user's couldn't care less. Yet it's not my main point.
I was asked in which areas the iPhone innovated and I pointed most of them out. Just because the Note has a feature that's not available on the iPhone, doesn't necessarily mean that it didin't innovate.

I have not said one word about innovation....
I think both the iPhone and Note have features that are innovative....

 

[1050792]

I have not said one word about innovation....
I think both the iPhone and Note have features that are innovative....

Not you, but my post was about answering that to someone and you quoted me. We have to analyze the context...

 

[jamezr]

Not you, but my post was about answering that to someone and you quoted me. We have to analyze the context...

I was just going by your post...it sounded like a synopsis of the Apple keynote. An awful lot of marketing hype.

 

[1050792]

I was just going by your post...it sounded like a synopsis of the Apple keynote. An awful lot of marketing hype.

Not really. It was simply stating the facts about the state of hardware of the new iPhone. I can post proof all over here...

 

[jamezr]

Not really. It was simply stating the facts about the state of hardware of the new iPhone. I can post proof all over here...

thats all right...most of us saw the keynote. Then the thing about benchmarks or speed tests......there is another one right around the corner that contradicts the previous one.

I would rather base my opinions on user experience. When using a phone.......no one will see the difference that some of those speed test or benchmarks proclaim anyway.