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Why you should get an Android phone
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I never talked about speeds or bechmarks
No....but you implied and alluded to them.
Makes no sense? Do you know what "innovative" means? There's no way that you can understand what that word means and say in screen fingerprint scanning is not innovative.
Yea.. please show me where I said in display fingerprint scanning is not innovative. I’ll wait...
Not to re-hash this conversation or anything, but I found it funny you said you only buy into hype on things if you know how they work. But just before this post you hype up how amazing deep fusion is when nobody has seen it in action first hand or even in a demo by Apple.
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With iOS 13 I’ve noticed that I’m more interested in moving to Android than ever before.
The Mail app which I use a lot on iOS now requires a tap then scroll then tap to move to another folder since the only options are delete or the menu.
When trying to search on a page in Safari I now have to tap, then scroll down and tap on find on page.
These two above examples are examples of how I use my phone. On Android I could just change default apps but now I can’t. I now understand why people want the ability to change default apps. Before these two apps worked fine for my use, but now I don’t like it.
Plus, in addition to this, I still am bothered how I can’t move apps wherever I want on my home page, I really don’t like that there’s no app drawer and I am annoyed how calls still take over my screen completely.
And lastly, the home screen on iOS has looked the same since what, iOS 7?
Sorry for this rant, I’m just not sure where else to post this. Now to find an Android phone that I like.
The Mail app which I use a lot on iOS now requires a tap then scroll then tap to move to another folder since the only options are delete or the menu.
When trying to search on a page in Safari I now have to tap, then scroll down and tap on find on page.
These two above examples are examples of how I use my phone. On Android I could just change default apps but now I can’t. I now understand why people want the ability to change default apps. Before these two apps worked fine for my use, but now I don’t like it.
Plus, in addition to this, I still am bothered how I can’t move apps wherever I want on my home page, I really don’t like that there’s no app drawer and I am annoyed how calls still take over my screen completely.
And lastly, the home screen on iOS has looked the same since what, iOS 7?
Sorry for this rant, I’m just not sure where else to post this. Now to find an Android phone that I like.
This is what I always struggle with. For me to seriously consider Android again, Google needs to gets its hardware act together. The fit and finish of the hardware just isn't quite there on the Pixel line of devices. Samsung makes amazing hardware devices but I am weary of some of their software. Huawei and OnePlus make me nervous because of the Chinese connection.
My best hope is Google gets its act together.
If you’re allergic to the Chinese phones, then your only alternative is Samsung. Once you get rid of the choice of Chinese phones, Samsung phones are not that bad. They’re definitely deliver more bang for the buck than Pixels. The One UI is much better than old Touch wiz, and you’ll enjoy features that you won’t ever see in stock Android. But be prepared for more clutter and more bloatware. That’s just the way it is with Android, same thing like when you buy a Windows PC.
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Hilarious. Don’t know about you, but I spent most of my time on my smartphones on apps, not staring at the home screen. I’d rather the home screen be a constant so it won’t become a distraction. But that’s just me. I’m sure there are more people here like you, preferring to stare at the home screen so it shouldn’t be “boring”.
What’s wrong with wanting the home screen to have an updated look? It’s laughable that in 2019, iOS still won’t let you place apps exactly where you want. People customise their home screens to make things easier to access for them, nothing wrong with that.
yep...try using a picture of your kids or special event as your wallpaper only to have it covered by icons or folders
Same goes for a lot of pictures as well. And as devices get bigger, I'm sure lots of people prefer to have a row or two on the bottom, not at the top where they're harder to reach.
I know Android is known for major customisation but these are very basic things. It literally makes no sense whatsoever to have your apps auto align when you move one.
The auto-align thing is massively annoying, I'm with you there.
As for the iOS standard screen-full-o'-icons vs Android's optional open space, I guess it's just the choice of displaying the wallpaper in a more visible way or having widgets there etc, vs. prioritising seeing as many icons as possible for quick overview and choice. Where I note that Android gives you the choice between the two, where iOS doesn't.
Personally I'm fine with iOS home screen look as I'm content with seeing the wallpaper of my choice on the lock screen. I know others have another preference, I'm not going to argue over a subjective choice.
As for why Apple keeps it that way, I think the reason is that every little recognisable bit that adds to their brand being instantly recognised is considered valuable to them. So, they wouldn't change the home screen design unless it became utterly necessary. Currently they're selling well enough of their iOS devices that they're probably content to let it remain as it is for the time being.
I'm very happy they added widgets to the iPad home screen though, but there I think they had more reason to change.
Completely agree. Why this hasn’t changed over the years boggles the mind as I can’t see a single reason why the home screen has to function in this manner, short of Apple’s OCD to have all images of the iPhone home screen be snapping to the top.
It’s one of the three items on my proverbial iOS wish list, along with changing default apps and the phone not taking over the entire screen. None are anywhere close to being significant enough to me to make me switch off iOS full time as there are other areas in my workflow where iOS surpasses Android, but it sure would be nice to see these changes made.
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That pretty much sums me up. I like a clean home screen with just one row of the most frequently used apps at the bottom. I also use the side bar for another row of somewhat less frequently used apps as well as the second home screen as a 3rd tier. Maybe that's not for everyone, but it works for me.
I also like being able to customize the home screen grid and apps screen grid (independently) to adjust how many rows/columns of apps are displayed.
In 2019, for a smartphone not to allow the most basic and simple of minor customization such as placing your app icons anywhere you want them, like at the bottom row just above the dock for ease of access. I mean seriously Apple? Come on.
On my Pixel 3 XL, I have my app icons at the very bottom, and then nothing else, but a beautiful gorgeous looking wallpaper of a nice scenic background, or my kids or dog.
iPhone's home screen look like someone left the app drawer permanently open, or something from 10 years ago.
Overall certain parts of iOS seem like they haven't been touched or updated at all in like a decade, as if Apple just forgot about them. Phone app anyone? No T9 dialer yet. Phone calls hijacking your screen when your aleady in a different app, like typing a message, or surfing the web, and the phone screen totally takes over. It should be a Banner / Heads Up little bar that drops down from the top, with the option to Accept or Decline.
Another thing Apple should ad, is something like 'Always on Display' I'm not saying they need to copy Android all the time, no. But AoD is a very nice feature, that now a phone without it, is a no go for me.
On my Pixel 3 XL, I have my app icons at the very bottom, and then nothing else, but a beautiful gorgeous looking wallpaper of a nice scenic background, or my kids or dog.
iPhone's home screen look like someone left the app drawer permanently open, or something from 10 years ago.
Overall certain parts of iOS seem like they haven't been touched or updated at all in like a decade, as if Apple just forgot about them. Phone app anyone? No T9 dialer yet. Phone calls hijacking your screen when your aleady in a different app, like typing a message, or surfing the web, and the phone screen totally takes over. It should be a Banner / Heads Up little bar that drops down from the top, with the option to Accept or Decline.
Another thing Apple should ad, is something like 'Always on Display' I'm not saying they need to copy Android all the time, no. But AoD is a very nice feature, that now a phone without it, is a no go for me.
I agree with that statement completely. I've said before that the home screen will never change (much) because Apple doesn't want these mistaken for anything but an iPhone.
I used to own an Android and sort of miss the flexibility of the home screen but found myself spending way more time than I should rearranging, customizing, etc. that it was really more of a nuisance than anything. I'm kind of glad now that I can't do any of that. The only real change that I've been hoping for is that they would make the icons slightly smaller which I think would give it a more modern look. Other than that, I'm good.
AOD and customizable icon placement is at the top of my list for minor UI changes that Apple could do with relative ease. Apple will probably never do AOD, simply because they stress way to much on battery life. Make AOD optional and let the customer decide to use it or not. $20 says 90% or more would use it.
App drawer vs multiple pages makes no difference to me. Either one is a grid of apps, what’s the practical difference? ?♂️ Icon location (for ease of reach), incoming calls and AOD definitely should be there. Not enough to leave for me though...
I don't think Android can beat Apple
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Agree on the recognizable branding thing, as a plethora of Android OEMs copy the look (MiUI, eMUI, colorOS, etc). I mean if Android users are so against the iOS look, it’s hilarious that pretty much all the Chinese phones copied the iOS look.
Well, I have a somewhat different perspective.
I live in Brazil and I have had several iPhones. But now they are getting incredibly expensive here without adding too much to the experience.
A base iPhone XS sells for some USD1,400 here (after the a great price reduction following the U.S. release of the iPhone 11, which is yet to launch here; it was over USD2,000). It is very expensive, and it comes with only 64 GB of storage. In terms of local currency, the iPhone has suffered a much steeper price variation, and it now costs 5x more than it used to, thanks to an unfavorable exchange rate, heavy taxes, and Apple’s greed.
You may say that I can buy an iPhone in the U.S. and avoid paying Brazilian taxes, but this is not entirely true. Since the iPhone XS/XR, all U.S. models lack support for LTE Band 28, which is heavily used here in Brazil (which is strange, as the iPhone X sold in the U.S. supports Band 28). So, the option is to buy one here.
But a Samsung Galaxy S10 is selling for as low as USD800, and it comes with 128 GB. The Galaxy Note 10 and 10+ is selling for USD1,150 and USD1,350, respectively. Still cheaper, despite being brand new.
And we have models which are not even available in the U.S. The Samsung Galaxy M30 is selling very well here, and I have one as my second device. It has a weak processor, no wireless charging, and plastic on the back. But honestly, it has a great 6.4” AMOLED screen, which is superior to the one in the iPhone 11. And it has a 5,000 mAh battery, which makes it very reliable as it lasts all day. I can use it to call an Uber late at night when the battery in my iPhone X is already dead. And it has 64 GB of storage and a smaller notch than the iPhone 11. And it is selling for less than USD250. You can find it cheaper in India, but it is already a bargain here.
Add to that that I have had some reliability issues with my iPhone X. After a year and a half of use, the touch screen simply died, and Apple agreed to replace it at no cost, apparently because this is a common issue. I also found out that Face ID is not working due to a problem in the front camera, and the sound is also defective. There is no way to fix it, and Apple offered me a replacement iPhone for USD875 in exchange for my defective one.
So, while you can say that Face ID is better than whatever face recognition system a low-end Android phone may have, at least this last one works.
The iPhone is a better device, for sure, but Apple is trying hard to move me away from it, by charging exorbitant prices and delivering less than the competition.
For the first time in years, I am not sure that my next phone will be an iPhone.
I live in Brazil and I have had several iPhones. But now they are getting incredibly expensive here without adding too much to the experience.
A base iPhone XS sells for some USD1,400 here (after the a great price reduction following the U.S. release of the iPhone 11, which is yet to launch here; it was over USD2,000). It is very expensive, and it comes with only 64 GB of storage. In terms of local currency, the iPhone has suffered a much steeper price variation, and it now costs 5x more than it used to, thanks to an unfavorable exchange rate, heavy taxes, and Apple’s greed.
You may say that I can buy an iPhone in the U.S. and avoid paying Brazilian taxes, but this is not entirely true. Since the iPhone XS/XR, all U.S. models lack support for LTE Band 28, which is heavily used here in Brazil (which is strange, as the iPhone X sold in the U.S. supports Band 28). So, the option is to buy one here.
But a Samsung Galaxy S10 is selling for as low as USD800, and it comes with 128 GB. The Galaxy Note 10 and 10+ is selling for USD1,150 and USD1,350, respectively. Still cheaper, despite being brand new.
And we have models which are not even available in the U.S. The Samsung Galaxy M30 is selling very well here, and I have one as my second device. It has a weak processor, no wireless charging, and plastic on the back. But honestly, it has a great 6.4” AMOLED screen, which is superior to the one in the iPhone 11. And it has a 5,000 mAh battery, which makes it very reliable as it lasts all day. I can use it to call an Uber late at night when the battery in my iPhone X is already dead. And it has 64 GB of storage and a smaller notch than the iPhone 11. And it is selling for less than USD250. You can find it cheaper in India, but it is already a bargain here.
Add to that that I have had some reliability issues with my iPhone X. After a year and a half of use, the touch screen simply died, and Apple agreed to replace it at no cost, apparently because this is a common issue. I also found out that Face ID is not working due to a problem in the front camera, and the sound is also defective. There is no way to fix it, and Apple offered me a replacement iPhone for USD875 in exchange for my defective one.
So, while you can say that Face ID is better than whatever face recognition system a low-end Android phone may have, at least this last one works.
The iPhone is a better device, for sure, but Apple is trying hard to move me away from it, by charging exorbitant prices and delivering less than the competition.
For the first time in years, I am not sure that my next phone will be an iPhone.