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No-one here has a crystal ball or psychic powers. If we did we'd all be filthy rich from playing the lotto. :)
That said, it's possible it might sell out, but I'd be willing to bet Apple's thought of that and will have plenty of stock on hand to avert any sales disasters.

I agree. I remember when the iPhone X is launching in 2017, everyone was under the impression that no one would receive their model until February 2018 or later, when they had plenty of stock available mid December and many were receiving their devices way ahead of schedule. Apple tends to under promise and over deliver, and offering six new colors, I’m sure there will be a plethora of options for everybody to choose from, and more options are a good thing when it comes to having the device you want.
 
That’s not what that Member was referring too. They meant the XS/XS Max, where for those who are opting for the XR, is allegedly stating that they can’t afford the XS, which is why they’re choosing this model particularly because its ‘cheaper’
If he judges people that way then an expensive mobile phone isn’t going to advance his appearance. I rather feel sorry for people like that. I’d missed the cheap shot.
 
Problem is for us that want a smaller phone, only the Xs fits and it is huge investment. Why couldn’t apple have produced a smaller Xr as well or just shrink it a bit !
 
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The fact that Apple does not have the SIM free version of the XR available as an option for pre-order in the U.S., like they did with the XS/XS Max, makes me feel like they expect demand to be a lot higher and would rather take care of customers for their big money cellular partners (ATT, Verizon, Sprint, Tmo) first.
 
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Problem is for us that want a smaller phone, only the Xs fits and it is huge investment. Why couldn’t apple have produced a smaller Xr as well or just shrink it a bit !

If there is an Achilles heal in the sales of the XR it will perhaps be because of the size when people see it in the flesh. I those people will buy the iPhone 8 as the eye watering high price of the XS is the other off putter. I don’t know why Apple chose to size their iPhone 8 replacement so big??
 
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If there is an Achilles heal in the sales of the XR it will perhaps be because of the size when people see it in the flesh. I those people will buy the iPhone 8 as the eye watering high price of the XS is the other off putter. I don’t know why Apple chose to size their iPhone 8 replacement so big??
Agreed, I don't really want to end up with the IP8 as it will be too similar to 6s but a play in the shop will tell me if Xr fits in my pocket and then I will have to decide between them as I don't think waiting another year will bring a smaller phone.
 
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Nothing wrong with it. But when you can get a bigger screen LCD in a smaller form factor for $50 less than the Plus models previously retailed for, and (allegedly) much better battery life, it could be a good seller. Especially for many on older Plus models or people who want a bigger screen but not the former Plus form factor for only $50 more.
There’s a few trade offs coming from the 7 plus to consider.

You don’t a get a 1080p display
You don’t get 3D Touch
You don’t get a dual lense camera

However there are some nice upgrade on the Xr so it depends what’s important.
 
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There’s a few trade offs coming from the 7 plus to consider.

You don’t a get a 1080p display
You don’t get 3D Touch
You don’t get a dual lense camera

However there are some nice upgrade on the Xr so it depends what’s important.
It’s those 3 things you’ve listed there that I really can’t get me head around. Here we are in 2018 and we have a new release missing features that have become standard over the last few years. With so much emphasis within marketing on screen technology and we couldn’t get a 1080p display on a new iPhone? The 3DTouch seems to have been replicated some way in software and I’m sure they could have put the camera from the 8+ on this device which surely would have saved costs.

This device may well show us how little consumers concentrate on specs and focus more on colours and price. As somebody who considers more than that I was left quite frustrated by the XR at launch. It did save me some money though lol.
 
There’s a few trade offs coming from the 7 plus to consider.

You don’t a get a 1080p display
You don’t get 3D Touch
You don’t get a dual lense camera

However there are some nice upgrade on the Xr so it depends what’s important.

True but Face ID, edge to edge display, computational photography, better battery life and louder speakers might do it for some,

The colors are nice too.
 
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They should have gone with a 1080p screen like the plus phones and just charged an extra $50 if they didn’t want to take a loss. The screen is arguably the biggest feature of a phone, and with 1080p you know what you’re getting. Surely it was a cost cutting move, so I wonder how much more would they have had to charge to include the 1080p.
 
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They should have gone with a 1080p screen like the plus phones and just charged an extra $50 if they didn’t want to take a loss. The screen is arguably the biggest feature of a phone, and with 1080p you know what you’re getting. Surely it was a cost cutting move, so I wonder how much more would they have had to charge to include the 1080p.

It’s a whole new lcd panel, that apple claims as its most advance to date. So don’t think it’s going to be as much of an issue as some here are making it out to be.
 
It’s a whole new lcd panel, that apple claims as its most advance to date. So don’t think it’s going to be as much of an issue as some here are making it out to be.
828p is 828p, no matter what kind of spin apple puts on it. I’ll give it a look and I am sure it won’t be BAD, but will it look as sharp as an 8+? I wish they had just kept it 1080p.
 
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828p is 828p, no matter what kind of spin apple puts on it. I’ll give it a look and I am sure it won’t be BAD, but will it look as sharp as an 8+? I wish they had just kept it 1080p.

That’s just the thing don’t think it is spin it’s a new technology, probably the reason they couldn’t fit 3D Touch on it.

I’m probably going to order one in blue or white, I’m very curious.
 
True but Face ID, edge to edge display, computational photography, better battery life and louder speakers might do it for some,

The colors are nice too.

The upgrades are nice coming from the 7 or 8 plus. However if you don’t want a sub 1080p display and single lens camera then you can get the max.


The colours are nice. It’s a shame the max doesn’t come in more colours.
 
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828p is 828p, no matter what kind of spin apple puts on it. I’ll give it a look and I am sure it won’t be BAD, but will it look as sharp as an 8+? I wish they had just kept it 1080p.
And I'd bet that 75% of the iPhone users have no idea what resolution or PPI their phone has. All of these numbers are only important on tech forums and to hardcore enthusiasts. I'd say most people only care is if it looks good to them and most aren't focusing in close to see if tiny text is a little fuzzy on the edges. Apple is marketing to the masses not just specs chasers. A fancy new iPhone in a new color with the form factor of the 'expensive' ones but at hundreds of dollars less is gonna be a hit.
 
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There’s a few trade offs coming from the 7 plus to consider.

You don’t a get a 1080p display
You don’t get 3D Touch
You don’t get a dual lense camera

However there are some nice upgrade on the Xr so it depends what’s important.

Except the average person simply doesnt care about 1080 or 1 camera (the Pixel did 1 camera better than most 2). and 3D touch is there like the ipad simply hold instead of press

Per the below I said in the other XR thread, 34% of smartphone users, 5 of the top 10 used devices, in the US are using a 326PPI older iphone (SE/6/6S/7/8); thats 80 MILLION people assuming 235 million US smartphone users. The numbers simply show average people do not care about 1080 or PPI.

To the topic, the "average phone buyer" simply doesn't care about resolution or being on the "PPI patrol" as Flossy Carter would say. If you're a spec wh*re, well the XR is not meant for you to begin with; thats why the XS and Max exist. The XR meant to replace the iphone 6/7/8 line at the low end of the current model year phone spectrum, not the Plus, and not the high end users who demand top specs.

If 326PPI was "garbage" we would not see 5 of the top 10 phones being used (data taken in Q2 2018) in the US being 326PPI; 34% of smartphone users in the US are ok with 326PPI by the data below.

And last I checked there was somewhere around 235 million smartphone users in the US alone. That is a BOATLOAD of potential XR buyers; 80 million.

Country Position Phone model Share
USA 1 iPhone 7 12.05%
USA 2 iPhone 7 Plus 9.96%
USA 3 iPhone 6S 7.77%
USA 4 iPhone 6 6.22%
USA 5 iPhone 8 Plus 5.68%
USA 6 iPhone X 5.00%
USA 7 iPhone 6S Plus 4.34%
USA 8 iPhone 8 4.04%
USA 9 iPhone SE 3.89%
USA 10 Samsung Galaxy S8 2.96%
 
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The fact that Apple does not have the SIM free version of the XR available as an option for pre-order in the U.S., like they did with the XS/XS Max, makes me feel like they expect demand to be a lot higher and would rather take care of customers for their big money cellular partners (ATT, Verizon, Sprint, Tmo) first.
If you want an unlocked XR, you just pick your carrier and pay the full price. When you pay full price, you get an unlocked phone and a sim card for the carrier of your choice.

This is what it says in my cart when I try to buy the XR: "Unlocked iPhone with AT&T SIM"
 
Does anyone have any thoughts on the real-world practical effect of the 3GB of RAM on the XR vs the 4 GB of RAM on the XS/XS Max? This is the one area where I am really uncertain and waffling. I like to keep my phones for 3 to 4+ years. My iPhone now reloads and repages every app after being out of it for 2 seconds, so I’d like to avoid that in the future if I spend the money now for a new phone.
 
And I'd bet that 75% of the iPhone users have no idea what resolution or PPI their phone has. All of these numbers are only important on tech forums and to hardcore enthusiasts. I'd say most people only care is if it looks good to them and most aren't focusing in close to see if tiny text is a little fuzzy on the edges. Apple is marketing to the masses not just specs chasers. A fancy new iPhone in a new color with the form factor of the 'expensive' ones but at hundreds of dollars less is gonna be a hit.
I’m talking for myself. It was a smart business move, but I want to like it.
 
I’m talking for myself. It was a smart business move, but I want to like it.

A smart business move but exploitation of the naivety of consumers is never something I’ve admired to be honest. It’s the very reason we have television programs urging us to do research before buying just about anything over £100 lol.
 
Problem is for us that want a smaller phone, only the Xs fits and it is huge investment. Why couldn’t apple have produced a smaller Xr as well or just shrink it a bit !
That's not going to happen. Apple is designing phones in response to what the market wants, and that's bigger phones. If the consumers wanted smaller phones Apple and the other manufacturers would make them, but that's not what's happening. It's been going in that direction for years. While I hope the XR will fit in my shirt pocket, I'll get over it if it doesn't.
https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-iphone-6-sales-back-up-demand-for-bigger-phones/
 
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