iMac Pro with Mini LED preview, yes.
I guess the main topic at the WWDC will be: ARM
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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?
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iMac Pro with Mini LED preview, yes.
I guess the main topic at the WWDC will be: ARM
Intel has been cagey on when exactly Comet Lake-S (the CPUs the iMac would use) will be released this year, with the over-under being late Spring to early Summer (but real quantity shipments might not be until Fall).
Yes,apple would want to show the new imac at the WWDC,since its official a live online event,still better with more impact than just an press release
Remeber the imac is thinner than xdr pro display at the edges of the display where is nothing inside! But the center of the imac where are most of the electronics ,is far thicker,apple just need to remove the fusion drive to make room for an redesign inside out,better display inside out,better thermals , better speakers, micron encloser for the seal of the display, no dust should ever get in and so on..this must be big because i dont see apple redesign the exterior or interior for another 10 years
Remeber the imac is thinner than xdr pro display at the edges of the display where is nothing inside! But the center of the imac where are most of the electronics ,is far thicker,apple just need to remove the fusion drive to make room for an redesign inside out,better display inside out,better thermals , better speakers, micron encloser for the seal of the display, no dust should ever get in and so on..this must be big because i dont see apple redesign the exterior or interior for another 10 years
I agree! If Apple does redesign (which is long overdue) then WWDC makes sense. Also, its going to be something that in fact should be ready for next 10 years or so (as you mentioned) so I'm sure they want a big splash. If press release happens then I know I will be pissed before I even open the specs as I will know its yet again another crappy spec bump.
If WWDC doesn't bring anything then the only logical reason could be ARM iMac but I doubt we would see it this soon.
Also, after the Catalina disaster (which I still refuse to update to) this WWDC needs to be big and I'm sure redesigned iMac would certainly help. Few more months to go
If WWDC doesn't bring anything then the only logical reason could be ARM iMac but I doubt we would see it this soon.
Also, after the Catalina disaster (which I still refuse to update to) this WWDC needs to be big and I'm sure redesigned iMac would certainly help. Few more months to go
Also, after the Catalina disaster (which I still refuse to update to) t
And therein lies the biggest problem with any new imacs, no matter what the specs are.
I'd like to see a bold shift at WWDC. ARM for laptops. Ryzen and Threadripper on the desktop. Not likely, considering the new Mac Pro stayed on Intel and all the work poured into ARM, but I can dream.
He has sources inside Apple. Have you not seen his latest Tweets? I’d check it out.
Maybe true about the iMac, but he’s been reliable about the other things that were coming (like the iPad Pro). Also he’s mentioned the Apple branded over ear headphones. The iMac is due a refresh so maybe some announcements next week.
I think we'll see the end of easy user replaceable RAM once the T-2 comes to the iMac. I'm thinking they'll just give us the innards and cooling of the iMac Pro at this point if they slap the T-2 in.
I reckon iMacs are on a 1-2 year upgrade cycle so it's likely either October this year or next March.
I’m really feeling it coul happen something anywhere from next week to months. I’ve got a new iMac 2019 that I’m thinking about returning. It’s not that it’s anything wrong with it I guess it just didn’t meet my expectations.
Would really like to see bigger screen size options around atleast 30” but preferably 32 or even 34” And of course better cooling Though I must say for my needs the 2019 iMac is really not bad in terms of cooling.
If they keep the upgradable RAM I’d be very happy though I could accept if they at least make it upgradeable later on with an Apple-tax added to it (preferably not though but rather that than not being able to upgrade at all) even if I can’t just buy some cheap ram and install it myself.
then or course get rid of the mechanical drive at least on the more expensive iMacs.
I guess I’ll return the iMac I’ve got and go back to my 2015 MacBook Pro for a couple of months. Won’t be too bad. I know it was stupid to get one in the first place but I really thought I’d benefit more from it and it is better than the MacBook Pro from 2015 I’ve got but if I’m spending over €3000 on a computer I want it to be just right for me and since I only have a few days left to decide I might have to return it and worst case scenarioplay the waiting game for a while.
I do believe that if Apple planned to release a computer the next few months those plans will not change by more than a few weeks, it would be too expensive to change the production lines back to the old iMac and maybe even use warehouse storage for new ones for several months with technology getting more and. Ore ancient... but hey, who knows!
Would really like to see bigger screen size options around atleast 30” but preferably 32 or even 34” And of course better cooling Though I must say for my needs the 2019 iMac is really not bad in terms of cooling.
If they keep the upgradable RAM I’d be very happy though I could accept if they at least make it upgradeable later on with an Apple-tax added to it (preferably not though but rather that than not being able to upgrade at all) even if I can’t just buy some cheap ram and install it myself.
then or course get rid of the mechanical drive at least on the more expensive iMacs.
I guess I’ll return the iMac I’ve got and go back to my 2015 MacBook Pro for a couple of months. Won’t be too bad. I know it was stupid to get one in the first place but I really thought I’d benefit more from it and it is better than the MacBook Pro from 2015 I’ve got but if I’m spending over €3000 on a computer I want it to be just right for me and since I only have a few days left to decide I might have to return it and worst case scenarioplay the waiting game for a while.
I do believe that if Apple planned to release a computer the next few months those plans will not change by more than a few weeks, it would be too expensive to change the production lines back to the old iMac and maybe even use warehouse storage for new ones for several months with technology getting more and. Ore ancient... but hey, who knows!
Speaking only for myself, I really don't want a larger display if it is either non-retina (so 3840x2160 or 3440x1440) or retina at a custom resolution (6016 by 3384 like the XDR or 5120 x 2160 like the LG 34" Ultrawide) because that would cause my windows to resize when I move them to a second display.
And yes, I could buy a hypothetical 6K iMac using a feature-decontented Pro Display XDR panel and a companion Pro Display XDR, but I'd rather not spend $10,000 even if my Barclay's card can handle it and I do get 48 month Same As Cash financing at the moment on Apple purchases.
Plus my 6K iMac display would look worse than the Pro Display XDR...
And yes, I could buy a hypothetical 6K iMac using a feature-decontented Pro Display XDR panel and a companion Pro Display XDR, but I'd rather not spend $10,000 even if my Barclay's card can handle it and I do get 48 month Same As Cash financing at the moment on Apple purchases.
Plus my 6K iMac display would look worse than the Pro Display XDR...
I can see why you wouldn’t want that and buying an XDR just seems crazy I’d you really don’t just need it but wouldn’t it be nice to not have the need for a second display? I understand a few inches doesn’t solve the real estate of 2x27” but I would believe the biggest group of buyers get an iMac as their only display so Apple maybe therefore goes by what would be better from them (myself, yes I’m still hoping ) but I would hope Apply solves this some way, maybe by setting an alternative standard for resolutions, I mean lead the way, as they used to do.
Myself I appreciate the beautiful display of the iMac but in just buying it because I can’t get the same value and power from any other Mac.
Apple really should have a non-AiO alternative for people that need a bit of power but are not willing to pay Mac Pro prices and that doesn’t necessarily need a display from Apple and I do understand it would cannibalizes on the Mac Pro and iMac Pro sales because the people that need power but not Mac Pro/iMac Pro power but that do make money with their computers will most likely go that route instead but come on. Must still be some simple way to make money for Apple even in that situation, I would probably spend almost the same amount of money that I spent on my iMac 2019 on a fast modern computer that I can use for music production, 3D modeling and some hobby-level programming, even without the screen! Even if it is 3 times, maybe even 5 times the volume of the Mac mini as long as it has a great cooling, the latest most suitable CPU and GPU (make the better GPU a CTO-option so everyone is pleased) reasonable SSD storage in base model but double that in the more expensive stock model, RAM user upgradeable or cheap (or if this computer can’t happen without it, make the RAM upgrade just as expensive as the iMac’s) oh and don’t forget to add the important ports, something similar to the iMac but preferably with 1-2 extra Thunderbolt 3 ports....
Since this computer doesn’t exist, it seems that the iMac is my best option but if I had the chance of getting closer to what described above or a “Mac Mini Pro”/“Mac Pro Mini” without having to spend over €3000 just for the case model, I’d go there in a heartbeat and just get the screen size that works best for me and the demand for other screen sizes would probably get a lot less, the 27” is great and better than most 27” I’ve tried but for music production I’d really benefit from something bigger and preferably wider.
) but I would hope Apply solves this some way, maybe by setting an alternative standard for resolutions, I mean lead the way, as they used to do. Myself I appreciate the beautiful display of the iMac but in just buying it because I can’t get the same value and power from any other Mac.
Apple really should have a non-AiO alternative for people that need a bit of power but are not willing to pay Mac Pro prices and that doesn’t necessarily need a display from Apple and I do understand it would cannibalizes on the Mac Pro and iMac Pro sales because the people that need power but not Mac Pro/iMac Pro power but that do make money with their computers will most likely go that route instead but come on. Must still be some simple way to make money for Apple even in that situation, I would probably spend almost the same amount of money that I spent on my iMac 2019 on a fast modern computer that I can use for music production, 3D modeling and some hobby-level programming, even without the screen! Even if it is 3 times, maybe even 5 times the volume of the Mac mini as long as it has a great cooling, the latest most suitable CPU and GPU (make the better GPU a CTO-option so everyone is pleased) reasonable SSD storage in base model but double that in the more expensive stock model, RAM user upgradeable or cheap (or if this computer can’t happen without it, make the RAM upgrade just as expensive as the iMac’s) oh and don’t forget to add the important ports, something similar to the iMac but preferably with 1-2 extra Thunderbolt 3 ports....
Since this computer doesn’t exist, it seems that the iMac is my best option but if I had the chance of getting closer to what described above or a “Mac Mini Pro”/“Mac Pro Mini” without having to spend over €3000 just for the case model, I’d go there in a heartbeat and just get the screen size that works best for me and the demand for other screen sizes would probably get a lot less, the 27” is great and better than most 27” I’ve tried but for music production I’d really benefit from something bigger and preferably wider.
How often do you move windows around that this is an important purchase decision? ;-)
I would like bigger screen but at the same time its not that important. It would be welcomed but things like reduced bezels, better thermals, better gpu etc. is more important.
I would like bigger screen but at the same time its not that important. It would be welcomed but things like reduced bezels, better thermals, better gpu etc. is more important.
Speaking only for myself, I really don't want a larger display if it is either non-retina (so 3840x2160 or 3440x1440) or retina at a custom resolution (6016 by 3384 like the XDR or 5120 x 2160 like the LG 34" Ultrawide) because that would cause my windows to resize when I move them to a second display.
And yes, I could buy a hypothetical 6K iMac using a feature-decontented Pro Display XDR panel and a companion Pro Display XDR, but I'd rather not spend $10,000 even if my Barclay's card can handle it and I do get 48 month Same As Cash financing at the moment on Apple purchases.
Plus my 6K iMac display would look worse than the Pro Display XDR...
You might be right in that Apple will not make one but the market really miss a computer for the the audio people that want a Mac but that doesn’t need a Mac Pro.
Most of these people get a MacBook of course because they want to be mobile but the rest either gets an iMac or a Mac mini or go Windows but I’m sure there’s a lot of demand (especially from the audio segment) for a reasonable priced “iMac with i9”-power from people not wanting or wanting to pay for the screen.
Just give the choice to upgrade the Mac mini similarly and make the thermals work but still be quiet.
Maybe what I want or my wishes are not success story and that I can take but I do believe that a more powerful Mac mini or a “Mac mini pro” absolutely would sell. And no they don’t offer one and since then in here wishing for either a larger screen size iMac or for them to make one a more powerful Mac mini, basically, because in my case it would not only need to be used for music production but also 3D-modeling but I’m sure that any 3D-modeling computer can handle music, just don’t know what’s most important piece when doing 3D modeling, CPU? GPU?
Though except for audio people I’m working at a workplace that is the most Apple-computer frequent workplace in my country and I’ve seen how the people that do and believe they need the power have iMac’s (because there hasn’t really been any other options that isn’t too costly) but they actually don’t need anything but a normal €200 display. Their work consists mostly of simulation in different ways (not very knowledgeable about what the spec-demand on this is but it seems that when people don’t do that they just analyze the research they’ve collected, export it to Excel, write emails and maybe prepare a PowerPoint once in a while.
I could see something as I’ve described fit this and most probably right now the Mac mini would fit a lot of these people as well but I’ve not seen any Mac mini’s at all because it seems business I’ve been working at just don’t buy them or maybe they’re hidden somewhere.
Most people there now and since released keep getting maxed out MBP 16” because they think they will need the power and mobility but I would assume most of them don’t need that kind of power.
Actually I think I might know why I’ve had such trouble with my windows, could it be that I have some odd resolution setup? Will try to take a look as I go back to my MBP, windows seemed to never stay where I left them, that was my biggest issue. It confuses me.
Most of these people get a MacBook of course because they want to be mobile but the rest either gets an iMac or a Mac mini or go Windows but I’m sure there’s a lot of demand (especially from the audio segment) for a reasonable priced “iMac with i9”-power from people not wanting or wanting to pay for the screen.
Just give the choice to upgrade the Mac mini similarly and make the thermals work but still be quiet.
Maybe what I want or my wishes are not success story and that I can take but I do believe that a more powerful Mac mini or a “Mac mini pro” absolutely would sell. And no they don’t offer one and since then in here wishing for either a larger screen size iMac or for them to make one a more powerful Mac mini, basically, because in my case it would not only need to be used for music production but also 3D-modeling but I’m sure that any 3D-modeling computer can handle music, just don’t know what’s most important piece when doing 3D modeling, CPU? GPU?
Though except for audio people I’m working at a workplace that is the most Apple-computer frequent workplace in my country and I’ve seen how the people that do and believe they need the power have iMac’s (because there hasn’t really been any other options that isn’t too costly) but they actually don’t need anything but a normal €200 display. Their work consists mostly of simulation in different ways (not very knowledgeable about what the spec-demand on this is but it seems that when people don’t do that they just analyze the research they’ve collected, export it to Excel, write emails and maybe prepare a PowerPoint once in a while.
I could see something as I’ve described fit this and most probably right now the Mac mini would fit a lot of these people as well but I’ve not seen any Mac mini’s at all because it seems business I’ve been working at just don’t buy them or maybe they’re hidden somewhere.
Most people there now and since released keep getting maxed out MBP 16” because they think they will need the power and mobility but I would assume most of them don’t need that kind of power.
Actually I think I might know why I’ve had such trouble with my windows, could it be that I have some odd resolution setup? Will try to take a look as I go back to my MBP, windows seemed to never stay where I left them, that was my biggest issue. It confuses me.
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Intel's 10th gen desktop is not out yet. So we can't expect an updated iMac any time soon.
Sure upgrading the CPU in Macs is apples go to card but I’m sure they could do a well received update by just improving thermals, CPU’s in desktop seem fine and I assume you wouldn’t notice that much difference in the 10th gen? Maybe they could just lower price on the i9 CTO configuration some and improve thermals and it would almost be as effective as the 10th gen? I’m just wishing and speculating here.
Apple already makes macbooks and iMacs for audio people. I‘m a professional producer, composer, musician etc. and there are many options out there for me. You just need a good cpu and lots of RAM, what are you talking about? Look, Apple doesn‘t make cheap and affordable products, it‘s not their approach and philosophy, it‘s just something you have to deal with.
And you know they like all-in-one solutions for all of their products, so them making a normal tower, affordable desktop pc for the masses is not something I can see happening.
But where did you see me request a cheap affordable product? I requested an iMac but without the screen for the same amount of cash as an iMac as long it better a better air flow/cooling.
You know, like a stationary Mac (that can handle more than the Mac mini) which you can have a one (big) screen solution for that doesn’t cost me over €6600/$6800 and to be clear that you still get a screen that’s bigger than 27”.
Not that crazy of an idea is it?
I can also take an iMac with a bigger screen size, I don’t mind, I just felt that if people are worried it would mess with their resolution on the iMac maybe Apple should give an option for it and I can see it happen but I haven’t heard any rumors about such a thing so I guess I’ll have to continue hoping for a larger screen sized iMac.
Sure, it can be the new iMac Pro but I’m not sure how likely that is but I was pretty clear on that I was just hoping for something that would fit my preference and not really expecting it. Try stop being such a small smart ass man and start treating people with some respect and you might get some back.
PS. I already have 2 MacBook Pro’s and the fan noise of the latest one is terrible. Always going crazy as long as an external screen is connected to it and it has had several issues other than that so therefore I would want a stationary computer first hand. Something stable quiet and reasonably powerful.
Except for music production I also do 3D modeling and therefore I would have wanted something that handles that as well but for musicians not “on the go”, I know I do not need all that power when being mobile since when I stopped playing life shows with my computer and for session writing I don’t mind using something simpler as one of my MacBook Pro’s.
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A display of such a diagonal, while retaining the Retina standard, will have ~60% more resolution than the current 5K. With the appropriate load on the hardware. Are you kidding? And most importantly, why do we need such a diagonal?
I’m not kidding. I say I would like to have a one screen setup instead of two.
There are several displays with these screen sizes and there have been rumors about a bigger screen so I’m not sure why it would be a big deal. Of course the screen resolution + retina could be an issue and therefore this is not likely but I’m still hoping for it because I WANT IT.
There are several displays with these screen sizes and there have been rumors about a bigger screen so I’m not sure why it would be a big deal. Of course the screen resolution + retina could be an issue and therefore this is not likely but I’m still hoping for it because I WANT IT.
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