Yeah, I was ready as well to spend my hard earned money on the new redesigned iMac. I'm beyond disappointed. And I'm shocked that they are saving the redesign for the ARM version, I have no interest in ARM. Just give us the design, and release the ARM integration next year...If the latest rumours are true then it's a real downer for me. My MBP 2011 and iPad 4 need replacing and I'd been banking on an iMac (and then waiting for the next iPad Air, hopefully with Pro design and Apple Pencil 2 support).
Might just pull the trigger on an iPad Pro 12.9 now and go all in on iOS.
My thinking for tomorrow based on the latest rumors:
- Apple will unveil a new ARM iMac that is 24" and will follow the iPad Pro design aesthetic. They will not announce a shipping date for consumers, but may mention a general quarter when they will be available for developers.
- The 21.5" and 27" iMac are staying with the same form factor and will see spec-bumps (Gen9/Gen10 CPUs and RDNA 1/2 GPUs) either "real soon" (coming days or weeks) or "soon" (coming months).
- The iMac Pro will stay in the same form factor and will see spec-bumps (W-2200 CPUs and RDNA 2 GPUs) and MiniLED by the end of this year or early next year.
Yea that’s the problem I have, I want a new desktop. The software I use prohibits me from going ARM for the foreseeable future. The current outdated iMac design isn’t appealing. The Mac Pro is out of my price range. So there’s not an Apple solution that I like in that scenario. Unless I bite the bullet on an old designed iMac.Yeah, I was ready as well to spend my hard earned money on the new redesigned iMac. I'm beyond disappointed. And I'm shocked that they are saving the redesign for the ARM version, I have no interest in ARM. Just give us the design, and release the ARM integration next year...
If it is a spec bump, I am curious what Apple do. There is no way the current design can cool the 125w 10th gen Intel CPUs, plus the 5700 XT. Bespoke Apple variants perhaps? The 65w parts would be a noticeable downgrade.I think this makes sense. I said this a few days ago in this thread, I think the line will eventually be one iMac at 24", and a larger iMac Pro, maybe 27", maybe 27" and 30". This would mean no more 27" iMac at all.
This is how the iPhone and iPad lineups look right now. Non-pro models come in one size. Size options are a Pro thing.
My prediction (which I am hoping is wrong!) is that we get a preview of this new, fancy, ARM, 24" iMac tomorrow. One size. Could be shipping soon as a developer machine for the ARM transition, could be shipping in the fall. Current iMacs, in both sizes, are spec-bumped (but still Intel) to bridge the gap. iMac pros announced later in the year.
If I were you, I'd get the upcoming (and probably) spec-bumped iMacs, that are supposedly the last Intel versions. Spec one up pretty high and it will serve you for at least 4-5 years. By then, you will be in a position to see how ARM Macs are performing.Yea that’s the problem I have, I want a new desktop. The software I use prohibits me from going ARM for the foreseeable future. The current outdated iMac design isn’t appealing. The Mac Pro is out of my price range. So there’s not an Apple solution that I like in that scenario. Unless I bite the bullet on an old designed iMac.
Agreed, although if I have to settle for the old design I wish I could wait a few more months and atleast get RDNA2,If it is a spec bump, I am curious what Apple do. There is no way the current design can cool the 125w 10th gen Intel CPUs, plus the 5700 XT. Bespoke Apple variants perhaps? The 65w parts would be a noticeable downgrade.
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If I were you, I'd get the upcoming (and probably) spec-bumped iMacs, that are supposedly the last Intel versions. Spec one up pretty high and it will serve you for at least 4-5 years. By then, you will be in a position to see how ARM Macs are performing.
I think we see a preview of the new design when they announce the ARM processors and then we see a release in July. Look at KUO’s recents leak.
If it wasn't for the rumored redesign thats now pushed to next year, I'd buy the current design iMac 27-inch. but I'd boil to my bones, if I do, and then within a year a whole new design gets released. I should've replaced my iMac 2009 that that died in 2017 with 2017 model, instead I invested in upgrading my MacBook Pro that just ruined my posture. Had I replaced my iMac 3 years ago, I wouldn't feel bad about upgrading to the new model next yearYea that’s the problem I have, I want a new desktop. The software I use prohibits me from going ARM for the foreseeable future. The current outdated iMac design isn’t appealing. The Mac Pro is out of my price range. So there’s not an Apple solution that I like in that scenario. Unless I bite the bullet on an old designed iMac.
Yea, they could well preview the iMac Pro, but not the standard iMac, as you said.I cant think of any reason why an analyst like Kuo would make a prediction one day before a WWDC keynote unless he was sure about what was going to be announced. Why would he risk his reputation? Kuo stated refreshed iMacs before the all new form factor 24" arrives. From the language Kuo used, I can't see any room for a change in design for the 21.5/27. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple were behind Kuo's leak to temper expectations.
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Seems a strange if Apple were to say "look at this great new iMac design coming soon with a 24" screen. Meanwhile, keep buying these old models with the much loved design".
Yeah i mean, there's always something in the pipeline, but the current iMac is so glaringly out of date that I can't fathom buying it. I just feel like i'd have buyer's remorse instantly. That said, i hear you big time on the laptop/posture issue. I've been getting by with a 2017 MacBook Pro. Apart from the short comings in the GPU department, I am so in need of a desktop machine for the sheer physical frame positives that come with it.If it wasn't for the rumored redesign thats now pushed to next year, I'd buy the current design iMac 27-inch. but I'd boil to my bones, if I do, and then within a year a whole new design gets released. I should've replaced my iMac 2009 that that died in 2017 with 2017 model, instead I invested in upgrading my MacBook Pro that just ruined my posture. Had I replaced my iMac 3 years ago, I wouldn't feel bad about upgrading to the new model next year
That means introducing new hardware and it would be a wasted marketing opportunity with millions following the dubdub keynote tomorrow.
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Kuo confirms ARM at WWDC: 13.3-inch MacBook Pro and new 24-inch iMac will be the first ARM Macs, released as soon as Q4 - 9to5Mac
Following a report from Bloomberg that said Apple would announce the transition to ARM Macs at WWDC tomorrow, respected analyst...9to5mac.com
This gives a different scenario. We are all pretty much sure Apple will integrate ARM chips in their computers going bottom-up. If laptop are first, then they will still introduce (whether it's Q3 or Q4) a redesigned intel iMac 27" (the only mac registered) and let the 24" go ARM given its internal architecture that is the same of a MBP in Q4/Q12021.
I cant think of any reason why an analyst like Kuo would make a prediction one day before a WWDC keynote unless he was sure about what was going to be announced. Why would he risk his reputation? Kuo stated refreshed iMacs before the all new form factor 24" arrives. From the language Kuo used, I can't see any room for a change in design for the 21.5/27. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple were behind Kuo's leak to temper expectations.
Exactly. It's like dating someone you're not into, cause the one you really wanna be with isn't available lol. I even bought that 12 south stand for it, but it isn't enough. I still tilt my heard down. I reconsidered buying a monitor, but it isn't worth it those cost almost half an iMac...the best kind 2/3 the price of an iMac.Yeah i mean, there's always something in the pipeline, but the current iMac is so glaringly out of date that I can't fathom buying it. I just feel like i'd have buyer's remorse instantly. That said, i hear you big time on the laptop/posture issue. I've been getting by with a 2017 MacBook Pro. Apart from the short comings in the GPU department, I am so in need of a desktop machine for the sheer physical frame positives that come with it.
If a major focus of WWDC is the move of macOS from Intel to ARM, not mentioning new Intel Macs during the event makes some sense.
The people who are waiting / wanting a new Intel-powered iMac will be following the news or Apple's homepage so they won't miss a post-WWDC Keynote PR announcement.
Or EUC A2330 is the 24" ARM-powered iMac which will be released first to developers shortly after it's WWDC reveal and then at a later dater to consumers, perhaps with an entirely different ARM CPU in it (the Intel Dev Kit used a Pentium 4, but the first consumer Intel Macs used Core family CPUs).
Kuo's sources are directly embedded into Apple's supply chain in China. This is why his predictions about product dimensions and components are generally accurate, but his predictions about pricing or ship dates are not.
In March 2020, Kuo said an iMac Pro would arrive by the end of the year with a 27-inch MiniLED display and that Apple would also move to MiniLED for the 16-inch MacBook Pro and a new 14.1-inch MacBook Pro. He made no mention of a new iMac in that report.
In April 2020, The China Times said Apple was working on a "lower cost 23-inch iMac" set to launch in 2H 2020.
In June 2020, Sonny Dickson said Apple would announce a new iMac at WWDC and that it would follow the iPad Pro's design language. He said it would have an AMD Navi GPU and be SSD-only, but did not say whether it would have an Intel or ARM CPU. Everyone assumed Intel since why would you have a dGPU when the iOS ARM CPUs have their own iGPUs, but maybe Apple has reasons. Rumors have said the first Mac ARM CPU will have 12 cores (mix of high-performance and low-power) so maybe there is no room for a shedload of GPU cores in the die, as well. Or it's easier to have AMD handle the graphics right now until Apple are ready to offer more powerful graphics cores either on the main die or as a separate GPU.
Okay. Change of plans. I'm now prepared for a WWDC with no new iMac announced.
I'm going to enjoy watching it anyway. Last year's software improvements were cool too.
If a major focus of WWDC is the move of macOS from Intel to ARM, not mentioning new Intel Macs during the event makes some sense.
Well guess my 2009 imac will have to keep chugging along. Not sinking my money into a spec bump. What a scam this is.