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When do you expect an iMac redesign?

  • 4rd quarter 2019

    Votes: 34 4.1%
  • 1st quarter 2020

    Votes: 23 2.8%
  • 2nd quarter 2020

    Votes: 119 14.5%
  • 3rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 131 15.9%
  • 4rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 172 20.9%
  • 2021 or later

    Votes: 343 41.7%

  • Total voters
    822
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Okay. Change of plans. I'm now prepared for a WWDC with no new iMac announced.

I'm going to enjoy watching it anyway. Last year's software improvements were cool too.
 
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This gives a different scenario. We are all pretty much sure Apple will integrate ARM chips in their computers going bottom-up. If laptop are first, then they will still introduce (whether it's Q3 or Q4) a redesigned intel iMac 27" (the only mac registered) and let the 24" go ARM given its internal architecture that is the same of a MBP in Q4/Q12021.
 
If the latest rumours are true then it's a real downer for me. My MBP 2011 and iPad 4 need replacing and I'd been banking on an iMac (and then waiting for the next iPad Air, hopefully with Pro design and Apple Pencil 2 support).

Might just pull the trigger on an iPad Pro 12.9 now and go all in on iOS.
Yeah, I was ready as well to spend my hard earned money on the new redesigned iMac. I'm beyond disappointed. And I'm shocked that they are saving the redesign for the ARM version, I have no interest in ARM. Just give us the design, and release the ARM integration next year...
 
My thinking for tomorrow based on the latest rumors:

  • Apple will unveil a new ARM iMac that is 24" and will follow the iPad Pro design aesthetic. They will not announce a shipping date for consumers, but may mention a general quarter when they will be available for developers.
  • The 21.5" and 27" iMac are staying with the same form factor and will see spec-bumps (Gen9/Gen10 CPUs and RDNA 1/2 GPUs) either "real soon" (coming days or weeks) or "soon" (coming months).
  • The iMac Pro will stay in the same form factor and will see spec-bumps (W-2200 CPUs and RDNA 2 GPUs) and MiniLED by the end of this year or early next year.


I think this makes sense. I said this a few days ago in this thread, I think the line will eventually be one iMac at 24", and a larger iMac Pro, maybe 27", maybe 27" and 30". This would mean no more 27" iMac at all.

This is how the iPhone and iPad lineups look right now. Non-pro models come in one size. Size options are a Pro thing.

My prediction (which I am hoping is wrong!) is that we get a preview of this new, fancy, ARM, 24" iMac tomorrow. One size. Could be shipping soon as a developer machine for the ARM transition, could be shipping in the fall. Current iMacs, in both sizes, are spec-bumped (but still Intel) to bridge the gap. iMac pros announced later in the year.
 
Yeah, I was ready as well to spend my hard earned money on the new redesigned iMac. I'm beyond disappointed. And I'm shocked that they are saving the redesign for the ARM version, I have no interest in ARM. Just give us the design, and release the ARM integration next year...
Yea that’s the problem I have, I want a new desktop. The software I use prohibits me from going ARM for the foreseeable future. The current outdated iMac design isn’t appealing. The Mac Pro is out of my price range. So there’s not an Apple solution that I like in that scenario. Unless I bite the bullet on an old designed iMac.
 
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I think this makes sense. I said this a few days ago in this thread, I think the line will eventually be one iMac at 24", and a larger iMac Pro, maybe 27", maybe 27" and 30". This would mean no more 27" iMac at all.

This is how the iPhone and iPad lineups look right now. Non-pro models come in one size. Size options are a Pro thing.

My prediction (which I am hoping is wrong!) is that we get a preview of this new, fancy, ARM, 24" iMac tomorrow. One size. Could be shipping soon as a developer machine for the ARM transition, could be shipping in the fall. Current iMacs, in both sizes, are spec-bumped (but still Intel) to bridge the gap. iMac pros announced later in the year.
If it is a spec bump, I am curious what Apple do. There is no way the current design can cool the 125w 10th gen Intel CPUs, plus the 5700 XT. Bespoke Apple variants perhaps? The 65w parts would be a noticeable downgrade.
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Yea that’s the problem I have, I want a new desktop. The software I use prohibits me from going ARM for the foreseeable future. The current outdated iMac design isn’t appealing. The Mac Pro is out of my price range. So there’s not an Apple solution that I like in that scenario. Unless I bite the bullet on an old designed iMac.
If I were you, I'd get the upcoming (and probably) spec-bumped iMacs, that are supposedly the last Intel versions. Spec one up pretty high and it will serve you for at least 4-5 years. By then, you will be in a position to see how ARM Macs are performing.
 
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If it is a spec bump, I am curious what Apple do. There is no way the current design can cool the 125w 10th gen Intel CPUs, plus the 5700 XT. Bespoke Apple variants perhaps? The 65w parts would be a noticeable downgrade.
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If I were you, I'd get the upcoming (and probably) spec-bumped iMacs, that are supposedly the last Intel versions. Spec one up pretty high and it will serve you for at least 4-5 years. By then, you will be in a position to see how ARM Macs are performing.
Agreed, although if I have to settle for the old design I wish I could wait a few more months and atleast get RDNA2,
 
I don't think there will be just a spec bump, and they were not saying they would hold then new design for ARM. The only question is when they will let it fly. Now, July or later in year. I hope they at least preview it now like they did the mac pro. But it does all seem kind of lame all of a sudden.
 
I cant think of any reason why an analyst like Kuo would make a prediction one day before a WWDC keynote unless he was sure about what was going to be announced. Why would he risk his reputation? Kuo stated refreshed iMacs before the all new form factor 24" arrives. From the language Kuo used, I can't see any room for a change in design for the 21.5/27. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple were behind Kuo's leak to temper expectations.
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I think we see a preview of the new design when they announce the ARM processors and then we see a release in July. Look at KUO’s recents leak.

Seems strange if Apple were to say "look at this great new iMac design coming soon with a 24" screen. Meanwhile, keep buying these old models with the much loved design".
 
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Yea that’s the problem I have, I want a new desktop. The software I use prohibits me from going ARM for the foreseeable future. The current outdated iMac design isn’t appealing. The Mac Pro is out of my price range. So there’s not an Apple solution that I like in that scenario. Unless I bite the bullet on an old designed iMac.
If it wasn't for the rumored redesign thats now pushed to next year, I'd buy the current design iMac 27-inch. but I'd boil to my bones, if I do, and then within a year a whole new design gets released. I should've replaced my iMac 2009 that that died in 2017 with 2017 model, instead I invested in upgrading my MacBook Pro that just ruined my posture. Had I replaced my iMac 3 years ago, I wouldn't feel bad about upgrading to the new model next year
 
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I cant think of any reason why an analyst like Kuo would make a prediction one day before a WWDC keynote unless he was sure about what was going to be announced. Why would he risk his reputation? Kuo stated refreshed iMacs before the all new form factor 24" arrives. From the language Kuo used, I can't see any room for a change in design for the 21.5/27. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple were behind Kuo's leak to temper expectations.
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Seems a strange if Apple were to say "look at this great new iMac design coming soon with a 24" screen. Meanwhile, keep buying these old models with the much loved design".
Yea, they could well preview the iMac Pro, but not the standard iMac, as you said.

Oh well. Less than 20 hours to go!
 
If it wasn't for the rumored redesign thats now pushed to next year, I'd buy the current design iMac 27-inch. but I'd boil to my bones, if I do, and then within a year a whole new design gets released. I should've replaced my iMac 2009 that that died in 2017 with 2017 model, instead I invested in upgrading my MacBook Pro that just ruined my posture. Had I replaced my iMac 3 years ago, I wouldn't feel bad about upgrading to the new model next year
Yeah i mean, there's always something in the pipeline, but the current iMac is so glaringly out of date that I can't fathom buying it. I just feel like i'd have buyer's remorse instantly. That said, i hear you big time on the laptop/posture issue. I've been getting by with a 2017 MacBook Pro. Apart from the short comings in the GPU department, I am so in need of a desktop machine for the sheer physical frame positives that come with it.
 
Today was a total bummer for me. Maybe you saw my posts before, I always mention that I sincerely hate Tim Cook because of his salesman acts. After Jobs, there should have been an engineer in his position who knows Jobs from earlier days like Federighi.

After that 24” ARM iMac rumors with iPad Pro like design, I’m pretty sure we’ll see simply a giant ipad with no additional performance. Because? Because greedy Tim Cook.. Mark my words.
 
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That means introducing new hardware and it would be a wasted marketing opportunity with millions following the dubdub keynote tomorrow.

If a major focus of WWDC is the move of macOS from Intel to ARM, not mentioning new Intel Macs during the event makes some sense.

The people who are waiting / wanting a new Intel-powered iMac will be following the news or Apple's homepage so they won't miss a post-WWDC Keynote PR announcement.



This gives a different scenario. We are all pretty much sure Apple will integrate ARM chips in their computers going bottom-up. If laptop are first, then they will still introduce (whether it's Q3 or Q4) a redesigned intel iMac 27" (the only mac registered) and let the 24" go ARM given its internal architecture that is the same of a MBP in Q4/Q12021.

Or EUC A2330 is the 24" ARM-powered iMac which will be released first to developers shortly after it's WWDC reveal and then at a later dater to consumers, perhaps with an entirely different ARM CPU in it (the Intel Dev Kit used a Pentium 4, but the first consumer Intel Macs used Core family CPUs).



I cant think of any reason why an analyst like Kuo would make a prediction one day before a WWDC keynote unless he was sure about what was going to be announced. Why would he risk his reputation? Kuo stated refreshed iMacs before the all new form factor 24" arrives. From the language Kuo used, I can't see any room for a change in design for the 21.5/27. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple were behind Kuo's leak to temper expectations.

Kuo's sources are directly embedded into Apple's supply chain in China. This is why his predictions about product dimensions and components are generally accurate, but his predictions about pricing or ship dates are not.

In March 2020, Kuo said an iMac Pro would arrive by the end of the year with a 27-inch MiniLED display and that Apple would also move to MiniLED for the 16-inch MacBook Pro and a new 14.1-inch MacBook Pro. He made no mention of a new iMac in that report.

In April 2020, The China Times said Apple was working on a "lower cost 23-inch iMac" set to launch in 2H 2020.

In June 2020, Sonny Dickson said Apple would announce a new iMac at WWDC and that it would follow the iPad Pro's design language. He said it would have an AMD Navi GPU and be SSD-only, but did not say whether it would have an Intel or ARM CPU. Everyone assumed Intel since why would you have a dGPU when the iOS ARM CPUs have their own iGPUs, but maybe Apple has reasons. Rumors have said the first Mac ARM CPU will have 12 cores (mix of high-performance and low-power) so maybe there is no room for a shedload of GPU cores in the die, as well. Or it's easier to have AMD handle the graphics right now until Apple are ready to offer more powerful graphics cores either on the main die or as a separate GPU.
 
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Yeah i mean, there's always something in the pipeline, but the current iMac is so glaringly out of date that I can't fathom buying it. I just feel like i'd have buyer's remorse instantly. That said, i hear you big time on the laptop/posture issue. I've been getting by with a 2017 MacBook Pro. Apart from the short comings in the GPU department, I am so in need of a desktop machine for the sheer physical frame positives that come with it.
Exactly. It's like dating someone you're not into, cause the one you really wanna be with isn't available lol. I even bought that 12 south stand for it, but it isn't enough. I still tilt my heard down. I reconsidered buying a monitor, but it isn't worth it those cost almost half an iMac...the best kind 2/3 the price of an iMac.
 
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Well guess my 2009 imac will have to keep chugging along. Not sinking my money into a spec bump. What a scam this is.
 
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If a major focus of WWDC is the move of macOS from Intel to ARM, not mentioning new Intel Macs during the event makes some sense.

The people who are waiting / wanting a new Intel-powered iMac will be following the news or Apple's homepage so they won't miss a post-WWDC Keynote PR announcement.




Or EUC A2330 is the 24" ARM-powered iMac which will be released first to developers shortly after it's WWDC reveal and then at a later dater to consumers, perhaps with an entirely different ARM CPU in it (the Intel Dev Kit used a Pentium 4, but the first consumer Intel Macs used Core family CPUs).





Kuo's sources are directly embedded into Apple's supply chain in China. This is why his predictions about product dimensions and components are generally accurate, but his predictions about pricing or ship dates are not.

In March 2020, Kuo said an iMac Pro would arrive by the end of the year with a 27-inch MiniLED display and that Apple would also move to MiniLED for the 16-inch MacBook Pro and a new 14.1-inch MacBook Pro. He made no mention of a new iMac in that report.

In April 2020, The China Times said Apple was working on a "lower cost 23-inch iMac" set to launch in 2H 2020.

In June 2020, Sonny Dickson said Apple would announce a new iMac at WWDC and that it would follow the iPad Pro's design language. He said it would have an AMD Navi GPU and be SSD-only, but did not say whether it would have an Intel or ARM CPU. Everyone assumed Intel since why would you have a dGPU when the iOS ARM CPUs have their own iGPUs, but maybe Apple has reasons. Rumors have said the first Mac ARM CPU will have 12 cores (mix of high-performance and low-power) so maybe there is no room for a shedload of GPU cores in the die, as well. Or it's easier to have AMD handle the graphics right now until Apple are ready to offer more powerful graphics cores either on the main die or as a separate GPU.

Dickson's tweet actually said "New iMac incoming at WWDC" rather than just announced. I took that as meaning iMac hardware was being released.
 
I love how siri just shuts down instead of googling if i ask her if apple introduces a new iMac today. xD
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Well guess my 2009 imac will have to keep chugging along. Not sinking my money into a spec bump. What a scam this is.

This is so funny. xD
 
Well I desperately need a new office setup by next month for the house I’m building so if no redesign tomorrow I have to decide between Mac Mini, PC build or MacBook Pro with monitor...🤔
 
I need a reliable dev box and I like none of the options. If Apple is trying to focus on developer satisfaction, they're ****ing it up.
 
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