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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?
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Looking good if you want a 24 inch Arm iMac by the end of the year (although it's possible that the first system release by the year end could just be a MacBook). The transition is to take 2 years, so I'm guessing that's from the date of the first system release. So could be up to 2 and a half years before the 27" iMac goes ARM.
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Correct. I am simply stating last year they spent 25 mins demoing hardware which completely overshadowed everything else at WWDC19. I overheard Windows users at the watercooler last year talking about hardware(Mac Pro) from WWDC19. It's not like the idea of spending a lot of time talking hardware at WWDC is out of the realm of possibilities.
Apple made it an easy decision for me! I will just wait for the Apple Silicon based iMacs now. I hope it's not a long wait.
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I would expect the first AS Mac to be a MBA or Mac Mini. Doubt It'll be an iMac.
2017 was the first model year for the iMac Pro so all iMac Pros can run Big Sur.
I was amazed Shadow of the Tomb Raider was running on an A12Z with Rosetta 2. I tried it on a 2019 MacBook Air i5 and the fan was SCREAMING with graphics all the way down, and I still had FPS issues. So it looks like even X86 apps run better on ARM than Intel LOL.
I trust Kuo is correct with his prediction it will be the smaller (13"/14") MacBook Pro and the new 24" iMac.
The consumer model Mac Mini will transition eventually, but I think it will stay Intel for a time - especially if Intel offers a 10th Generation CPU.
MacBook Pro and MacBook Air will probably combine into a single product when the ARM architecture transition is in full force. Then there will be a model with a larger screen (the "16-inch MacBook Air" some folks have been dreaming of).
The way I understood is that intel macs will be supported for years after full transition.
And updated intel macs are coming
I was wondering about that cos they did mention STR was written for Metal and the snapshot didn’t really specify what GPU it was using... given that a Mac mini runs on igpu I’m inclined to think that this is Apple potentially snubbing both intel AND AMD?
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That would be the Mac Pro
Rise of the Tomb Raider supports Metal 2 under macOS so I expect the A12Z's GPU cores are far more effective than Intel's iGPU with Metal 2.
Yes it was.
So Big Sur will run on the "Trash Can" Mac Pro as well as the "Cheese-grater Mk. II" Mac Pro and the iMac Pro.
It's also quit interesting that it's just the A12z right now. You would expect there to be... i don't know how many, but many chips for an entire lineup. Did the math on GPU yesterday and i think it's eight for the the entire iMac lineup alone. I assume the amount of different CPUs is just as high. And these models serve a purpose in their pricing structure.
I expect iMac redesign will be based on Intel, and last Intel based update for the entire Mac line.
Yeah I just edited my comment after remembering Kuo mentioned the MacBook. Kuo was reported as saying (Macrumours)
"the first Mac models to adopt Arm-based chips will be the 13.3-inch MacBook Pro and an iMac with a redesigned form factor, with Apple planning to launch the new models in the in fourth quarter of 2020 or early in 2021 at the earliest.".
That would be the Mac Pro
But i was talking about the CutOff Model for Mac Pro, and thats 2017 unless my tired eyes read the chard wrong.
Yeah, read the chart wrong. Oopsy.
There probably are more powerful CPUs in the labs that will be the ones used when consumer ARM architecture Macs ship. There are rumors of an "A14" that will have something like a dozen cores (mix of high-performance and power-efficient).
But the A12Z seems to be fast enough to develop on for now.
So where does that leave folks that want to buy an iMac? Wait a month to see better deals on 2019 models?
SO basically for me I am skipping gen 1.
I'm super impressed but I'll ride my macs to the ground and wait for system to mature before switching.
As a developer I'm fine working on intel macs for quote some time.
Ebay is showing good numbers as well.
I'm super impressed but I'll ride my macs to the ground and wait for system to mature before switching.
As a developer I'm fine working on intel macs for quote some time.
Plenty appeared in refurb store.
Ebay is showing good numbers as well.
Based on Tim's comments I'm expected new intel based iMacs next month, possibly with redesign.
I’m assuming the likes of bestbuy and such will be discounting older models between now and then ?
"pipeline" doesn't really mean 2-30 days. that's a stretch. Sounds more like code for end of year. You see how far our over optimism got us today.
I won't be excusing Apple. They learned nothing from 'bend gate' on the iPhone?
The good news for Dave and other potential iPad customers such as Freida...and myself...
12.9-inch iPad Pro with mini LED display expected late this year
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It seems 'hope' (as always with Apple products...) is on the horizon.
Maybe this one will actually have 'reinforcement' in the chassis...it seems Apple forgot to put any in the 12.9 incher for the last two iterations. (The 11 inch iPad Pro doesn't seem to have this problem. Far sturdier from my 'in store' bend tests...)
Azrael.
if this is the case, I may as well wait for the next iPad Pro (A14 chip) if it’s the end of the year or even early next year. It looks like my 2017 iPad Pro will also be able to get the latest iPadOS 14 that was announced at today’s WWDC.