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When do you expect an iMac redesign?

  • 4rd quarter 2019

    Votes: 34 4.1%
  • 1st quarter 2020

    Votes: 23 2.8%
  • 2nd quarter 2020

    Votes: 119 14.5%
  • 3rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 131 15.9%
  • 4rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 172 20.9%
  • 2021 or later

    Votes: 343 41.7%

  • Total voters
    822
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Man, I am very temped to wait for an iMac with Apple chips on it. That PS/LR demo sold me in. Also the FCP one. The iOS app integration on the Mac looks awesome too.
 
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At this point has sense to buy a new intel iMac next month or in September, when you know that it will be a transition to ARM in the following 2 years? I think I will save money and wait.
If your existing device can do what you need for another 2 years great but many people can't wait 2 years.
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Man, I am very temped to wait for an iMac with Apple chips on it. That PS/LR demo sold me in. Also the FCP one. The iOS app integration on the Mac looks awesome too.
Apple have really done a lot of work to make this transition go smoothly.
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It depends on what interests people more: internal design or external. I personally am interested in the first.

I think many people paying Apple's prices want and expect both for their money.
 
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Man, I am very temped to wait for an iMac with Apple chips on it. That PS/LR demo sold me in. Also the FCP one. The iOS app integration on the Mac looks awesome too.

Note that was Lightroom CC they showed off and not the full desktop Lightroom Classic CC (which was also missing from the dock).
 
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I am 100% confident the shipping consumer Macs on the ARM architecture will support TB3. Apple is too invested in it to not add it to the Mac-specific SoCs.

On the hardware side, participants will receive exclusive access to a Developer Transition Kit (DTK), which resembles a Mac mini but uses Apple's A12Z Bionic chip from the latest iPad Pro as its brains. In addition to the A12Z Bionic, the DTK includes 16GB of RAM, a 512GB SSD, a pair of 10 Gbps USB-C ports, a pair of 5 Gbps USB-A ports, and an HDMI 2.0 port. Thunderbolt 3 support is not included.

Article Link: Apple's $500 Developer Program Includes Tools and Resources for Transitioning to Apple Silicon, Plus a Loaner A12Z-Based Mac Mini
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TB3 support is possible on non-intel devices now.
Yes, as an add on card. But we aren't getting those on anything other than MPs

Hope I'm wrong but I can't afford to risk it.
 
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The Developer Program Mac Mini uses the A12Z SoC from the iPad Pro and the iPad Pro has no need for a Thunderbolt controller so it would not be present.

The consumer ARM architecture Macs will use different A-Series SoCs and Apple can add a TB controller to them.


I hope so, but I'm not willing to risk it. I'll go with the final Intel release and then worry about TB existing or not again in 5-7 years
 
Man, I am very temped to wait for an iMac with Apple chips on it. That PS/LR demo sold me in.

Note that was Lightroom CC they showed off and not the full desktop Lightroom Classic CC (which was also missing from the dock).

This. And not to claim there's anything fishy going on, but in general, it would be relatively easy to hide the true performance in the demos that were shown. PS did not show anything else but toggling visibility of a layer and panning a large image. How about filters, interacting with that file? Same with Lightroom - small catalog and beyond adjusting one image, applying that to other shots was shown on thumbnails. Again, not saying that there are issues, just saying that the demo did not necessarily show high performance.
 
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One of the bits in the State of the Union mentioned that they'll be bringing a 'family of SoCs' designed specifically for the Mac. Given the emphasis is on designing purpose-built SoCs I'm excited at the prospect of a Mac Pro level AS chip.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-mac-arm-cpus-2020-intel,38668.html based on this report from Feb 2019, this year may be the last Intel refresh.

While the disappointment is real of not getting any HW announcements today, I think the future looks really bright and exciting for a new era of AS machines.

I'd be really interested to see how they deal with thermals :D

I mean look at the list below.. based on some key points, I feel like we can expect highly performant Always-On devices with relatively lower power usage and better webcams etc.
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For some of the devs in the thread... Apple already did the initial porting work for the following libs and will be publishing patches in following days..

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Lol there you are Azrael...

*waves.*

Hello krell100. :)

I have to say. I really enjoyed the WWDC2020 Keynote.

I'm always mostly interested in the strategic direction of software.

And the Hydrogen Bomb Apple released at the end? Mac ARM. :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

THOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

Shockwave! ! !

Apple Mac ARM will be the biggest game platform on the planet. The biggest software platform on the planet. Access to millions and millions of iPhone apps and iPad apps that will run natively.

Breathtakingly seismic. (My eyeballs went widescreen...)

'Mac will never....have touch...' (*High pitched voice from naysayers...)

'Oh yeah?'

'I say, boy...I say...didja...see those 'touch sized' Big Sur...redesigns of MacOS?' :p

Azrael.
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macOS Big Sur on the current iMac just looks awkward.
Explains why everyone during the WWDC demo were using Pro Display XDRs instead of iMacs to showcase this thing.

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Good point.

Azrael.
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One of the bits in the State of the Union mentioned that they'll be bringing a 'family of SoCs' designed specifically for the Mac. Given the emphasis is on designing purpose-built SoCs I'm excited at the prospect of a Mac Pro level AS chip.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-mac-arm-cpus-2020-intel,38668.html based on this report from Feb 2019, this year may be the last Intel refresh.

While the disappointment is real of not getting any HW announcements today, I think the future looks really bright and exciting for a new era of AS machines.

I'd be really interested to see how they deal with thermals :D

I mean look at the list below.. based on some key points, I feel like we can expect highly performant Always-On devices with relatively lower power usage and better webcams etc.
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That's packing *SOME* tech' into 'Apple Silicon.'

This augurs well for Mac ARM.

I was blown away by the Metal 2 Tomb Raider demo on the A12z.

And the Mac Mini. What's this? A Mac Mini Dev' machine with 16 gigs of ram, 512 gigs SSD for £500 WITH 'THAT' Tomb Raider Demo level of iGPU?!!! :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Can Intel iG on the Mac Mini do that? (Stares into space...*)

And 3 '4k' files running...on a Mac 'ARM' Mini? Can an Intel Mac Mini do that? :O

Azrael.
 
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Good to see you're staying positive Azrael, despite not getting the hardware you need/want at this time.

I must say, Intel Macs look like a tough sell after that ARM demo and hype. I'm going to sit tight for 12 months and see where Macs go with ARM... My 6,1 Pro will definitely be my last Intel Mac.
 
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