I doubt a big "back to the Mac" event were Intel iMac is just chilling and saying "Hello" while there is a 24 inch ARM iMac and a bunch of ARM MacBooks crashing the Party. With that attitude they could have just released the intel revision at WWDC.
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I doubt a big "back to the Mac" event were Intel iMac is just chilling and saying "Hello" while there is a 24 inch ARM iMac and a bunch of ARM MacBooks crashing the Party. With that attitude they could have just released the intel revision at WWDC.
I highly doubt a 32” iMac will be intel. If anything the intel Mac will stay at 27” and the AS larger iMac will be a 32” redesign
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Apple is just very slow at releasing things
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Apple is just very slow at releasing things
How they're going to market the 'new' iMacs is the thing.
Press release?
Back to Mac in October?
Release them together? (Both on sexy new design? More congruous marketing visually.)
Release the Intel iMac on its own? (With dated old design? 21 inch doesn't get an upate but the 27 inch does?)
Release the iMac As later/early '21? (Later with the new design which will make the Intel design look really old.)
Separate AS event for the 'AS Macs' (laptop presumably...) in December?
Azrael.
I agree. The only AS Mac we will probably see this year will be a laptop. I just don’t believe that Apple will be on schedule. If anything they will show off the iMac and say preorders starting in december which will end up being next year.
Starting with MacBook Air and MacBook Pro 13 (14?) is way more intelligent than getting this into an iMac first. Low power first. Next year, put it in a MacBook Pro 16 with higher wattage. Then, almost the same chip can be put in a low cost iMac 24. Then, by end of 2021, big chips might be ready. Put it in iMac 30(32?). And in 2022, finish with the Mac Pro with maybe a chipset design and modular add-in cards.
The announced Radeon Pro 5000 series are mobile workstation cards and are currently available on the 16" MacBook Pro.
However, the Geekbench leaks show "Radeon Pro 5300" without the M at the end, so Tom's Hardware believes these are desktop versions (though probably still RDNA 1 Navi 14 and 12 parts) and should therefore have higher core and memory clocks and therefore better performance.
At this point, I am inclined to believe the Radeon Pro 5300 will be the baseline with the Radeon Pro 5500 the mainstream BTO upgrade and the Radeon Pro 5600 being the "serious" BTO upgrade (like the Vega 48 is now).
Apple said at WWDC that the first consumer Apple Silicon Macs will ship by the end of this year, so I believe we will have a dedicated event for them and the launch of macOS 11 Big Sur in October.
The focus will, of course, be on the Apple Silicon models. But Apple has said they are not kicking Intel to the curb with immediate effect so also announcing new Intel Macs would support that narrative.
I personally think the larger model will stay at 5K and 27", but plenty of folks are pushing a 6K and 32" narrative so...
I also believe the 21.5" Intel model will be discontinued in favor for a ~24" Apple Silicon model.
If they have them ready and they are not a new design, there is no reason to not release them now. In fact, it runs counter to Apple's strategy to just hold onto to them since they are losing sales.
But if they do have a new Intel model with a design looks identical to the Apple Silicon models, then waiting makes sense as Apple Silicon cannot launch before macOS 11 Big Sur and that will not be ready until October.
I believe it will be a single Mac-based event in October.
- New Apple Silicon Macs
- New Intel Macs
- macOS 11 Big Sur
Ming had it down as early '21.
Which leaves the Intel iMac on it's todd.
Presumably the 21 inch iMac will be updated with the bigger brother?
That's a lot of desktop sales between them.
Azrael.
Apple did not have to say the first consumer Apple Silicon Mac would ship this year. They could have said "coming soon" or "by 2021" to give them wriggle-room.
That they committed to a 2020 release date is to me confirmation they have a completed and tested design that is ready to go into production and it is only waiting for the necessary operating system - macOS 11 Big Sur - to be completed.
I think they may be waiti
You're making me think the plan changed to release the 24 ARM along with the latest "new" Intel at the same time in the Fall. I can imagine the 24 ARM may not ship that day but the 27 probably could. There is clearly something that changed at the last minute to skew the intel imac release to "later", so it could be a number of things. For all we know the original plan could have been to use the existing form factor, and maybe they re-thought that for reaosn some have stated in this thread?
You're making me think the plan changed to release the 24 ARM along with the latest "new" Intel at the same time in the Fall. I can imagine the 24 ARM may not ship that day but the 27 probably could. There is clearly something that changed at the last minute to skew the intel imac release to "later", so it could be a number of things. For all we know the original plan could have been to use the existing form factor, and maybe they re-thought that for reaosn some have stated in this thread?
CWallace,
Some welcome rationality.
A 'back to the Mac' style event in October. With AS Macs as the main focus. Probably laptops.
I can see that.
It would make sense to do all the Macs in one go. It makes much tidier marketing. And it ties in with Big (YES) Sir OS 11.
So it seems a stronger rationale to have the new design for the Intel iMac this 'late' into the year.
Desktop versions of the laptop gpu numbers. Higher clocks etc. RDNA1 variants. Makes sense. As long as they aint charging me £800 for no gpu BTO iMac.
So that's another...3 months and 1 week.
*goes off to eat a pancake.
Azrael.
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See CWallace's fine post.
Azrael.
Have we considered the possibility that the last Intel Mac, might not be going into an iMac?
Fairly certain the last intel mac will be a mac pro.
Have we considered the possibility that the last Intel Mac, might not be going into an iMac?
No.
Have we considered the possibility that the last Intel Mac, might not be going into an iMac?
As DrRadon noted, the last true Intel-powered Mac will be the Mac Pro.
We have Geekbench leaks of an iMac with an unreleased i9-10910 CPU and an unreleased AMD Radeon Pro 5300 so that is pretty strong evidence a new Intel-powered iMac is coming.
See above. We know a new model is being tested so it makes no sense to not release it.
I believe we will see two new iMacs in October, a smaller-screened model with Apple Silicon and a larger-screened model with Intel (and that larger-screened model will subsequently move to Apple Silicon, as well).
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On 21 June MacR reported Kuo as saying "ARM iMac will be equipped with the all-new form factor design and a 24- inch display. Apple will launch the refresh of existing Intel iMac in 3Q20 before launching the ARM iMac."
The next day Kuo firmed his prediction up to say Q4 for ARM 24" iMac.
Apple will have been very confident when it said at WWDC that AS Mac would launch this year. I expect they gave themselves a couple of months contigency. I reckon an October event and release for 2 laptops and the iMac, if not November.
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On 21 June MacR reported Kuo as saying "ARM iMac will be equipped with the all-new form factor design and a 24- inch display. Apple will launch the refresh of existing Intel iMac in 3Q20 before launching the ARM iMac."
The next day Kuo firmed his prediction up to say Q4 for ARM 24" iMac.
Apple will have been very confident when it said at WWDC that AS Mac would launch this year. I expect they gave themselves a couple of months contigency. I reckon an October event and release for 2 laptops and the iMac, if not November.
Kuo: 24-Inch iMac With New Design to Launch in Fourth Quarter of 2020
Apple plans to launch a 24-inch iMac with a new design in the fourth quarter of 2020, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said today in a research note obtained by...
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I am starting to contemplate just ordering a 2019. It seems less likely that there's an intel iMac update coming 'soon'. Which is odd because the amount of leaks typically point to an imminent refresh in this case, and the incoming AS iMac would seemingly be the end of any intel iMac's (even with them being different tiers). What an odd predicament.
Excited for this wait to end up with a 5600 maxed out at 3 grand+ god dang I might as well wait for AS and try my hand at game streaming, I don't want a loud PC tower in my darn room, nor do I want to worry about a terrible non apple monitor. Just do something Apple!