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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?
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I'm going to say let the fun begin again next week........
I very strongly believe in no news next week. Its two week intervals unless its something very minuscule they release.
Yea another day and no iMac. This is just getting ridiculous.
Man I hate Apple anymore and I haven't felt this kind of anger since Windows XP lol.
Okay maybe that was a little harsh but man oh man their products do nothing for me anymore.
Okay maybe that was a little harsh but man oh man their products do nothing for me anymore.
Why are you on a Mac forum then?
I'm wanting to buy my first iMac and to be honest I'm happy to buy the 2019 model with the SSD. But I'm not in a massive rush so I'm wondering, once the new iMac is announced, whenever that may be, will the price of the 2019 models drop substantially do you think? I just don't want to spend xxx amount and then find in a month or two's time I could have saved hundreds of pounds!
Thanks for any help.
Thanks for any help.
You got to relativize a bit...
I'm ML engineer, still working daily on a 7 years old MacBook Pro 2013. If it wasn't of the battery, it would still totally suit my performance needs. Still as fast as I opened the box with Mountain Lion (or Lion?) on it 7 years ago.
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You will hardly find one because stocks are B/O since a couple of months. Usually they have a discount of stock left over, but you cannot order one with custom parts. You will only find base models with Fusion drive IF you are lucky.
Because I've been an Apple user since the clamshell multi colored Macbook running Mac OS 9? Just want a new iMac already lol. Nothing really in the line up I want except this computer.
We should rename this thread : The never-coming redesigned iMac therapy.
I want one with a fusion drive. Then I can put a 4tb or even 8tb SATA ssd in where the HD sits now for infinitely less than apple would sell one. Oh yea, Apple doesn't even OFFER anything more than a 2tb SSD ... so the fusion drive model gives me a way to upgrade it well beyond what is even possible through Apple.
You don't want one with a fusion drive. Trust me. And removing this drive is a pain in the a*s, really. You better with a 1 TB for example and have an external USB3gen2 SSD or a real Thunderbolt 3 SSD (even better, more stable, more reliable) or even a 10gbps NAS (Q-Nap makes really great 10 gbps + Thunderbolt 3 combined DAS/NAS).
When configured with a SSD, it's a PCI-Express NVME SSD that comes with it, not a SATA one. This SSD is 3-5x faster than any SATA SSD you can upgrade the iMac with. This is not even the same game.
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I find breathing into a paper bag helps. Consult your doctor before trying.
www.verywellhealth.com
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Actually the bag method of reducing hyperventilating isnt recommended by all-
"The problem is that several medical conditions, like asthma and heart attacks, can be confused with hyperventilation. In such cases reducing oxygen and increasing carbon dioxide can be deadly. One study in The Annals of Emergency Medicine described three cases in which people having heart attacks thought, wrongly, that they were hyperventilating and died after losing oxygen while breathing into bags.".
You see what you're doing Apple?
Will Breathing Into a Paper Bag Help If You'Re Hyperventilating?
Does breathing into a paper bag treat hyperventilation? Find out whether the trick helps as well as which health conditions it can worsen.
Actually the bag method of reducing hyperventilating isnt recommended by all-
"The problem is that several medical conditions, like asthma and heart attacks, can be confused with hyperventilation. In such cases reducing oxygen and increasing carbon dioxide can be deadly. One study in The Annals of Emergency Medicine described three cases in which people having heart attacks thought, wrongly, that they were hyperventilating and died after losing oxygen while breathing into bags.".
You see what you're doing Apple?
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Impressive work, Mr. Does your ML work not rely much on raw power, or is it via VM? You may have touched on this a while back, but 200 pages later and I’ve forgotten.... sorry!
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Given how 2020 is going, I will definitely give this a go. Thanks for the tip!I find breathing into a paper bag helps. Consult your doctor before trying.
.Will Breathing Into a Paper Bag Help If You'Re Hyperventilating?
Does breathing into a paper bag treat hyperventilation? Find out whether the trick helps as well as which health conditions it can worsen.
Actually the bag method of reducing hyperventilating isnt recommended by all-
"The problem is that several medical conditions, like asthma and heart attacks, can be confused with hyperventilation. In such cases reducing oxygen and increasing carbon dioxide can be deadly. One study in The Annals of Emergency Medicine described three cases in which people having heart attacks thought, wrongly, that they were hyperventilating and died after losing oxygen while breathing into bags.".
You see what you're doing Apple?
I still use it to crunch a bit of data when I know it won't take hours. But this is my front end computer to remotely control my compute workstation (headless Ubuntu 18.04, i7 2700K, P8P67 WS 😍, 2x MSI Trio 2080, 32 GB RAM, RAID 0 SSD, basically a maxed out 2011 WS) and Compute Canada (Cedar node, having something like 768 shared Tesla V100L 32 GB). So I still code on my Mac and basically do everything with it except long model training, and especially writing this freakingly boring thesis.
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No more fusion please. No more HDD as primary ever!
At the price, Apple should offer bigSSD + additional HDD option atleast., but you know.. typical apple.. never wanting to have an impact on ssd option selling
At the price, Apple should offer bigSSD + additional HDD option atleast., but you know.. typical apple.. never wanting to have an impact on ssd option selling
Nooooooooooo.
HDDs are dead and buried and burn in computing's hell along with the Apple's Newton and every Spindler/Amelio's products ever released !
(Re-watched yesterday Gil Amelio's keynote when Steve Jobs appeared on stage after Apple's buying NeXT. Damn this guy was dead on stage without knowing it. Fascinating how a single guy like him could be a thousand miles away from the track).
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I actually agree with Frankyy.
You sound like you don't want to imagine any other scenario than the one you have.
Anything is possible especially with Apple. They showed us many times in the history that even for single iteration they can do redesign.
As of same "box" for Intel and AS - well, lets take iMac and iMac Pro - same box, different internals.
So, with that in mind, intel redesign will be the same as AS. Inside will change whilst also giving Apple more headroom for the thermals. That itself will make AS virtually silent as if they will use fans then those fans won't need to go as crazy as Intel.
I feel that Apple spends way more time on designing the outside than the inside as outside is what it will look like to everyone. Inside can change every year (and it often does) so its important to get the outside right first (whilst keeping the inside in mind).
That said, your logic is super 'bubbled' and I would advice you to stop for a second and think - what if my analogy is wrong - could there be another possibility (or more)?
I have saved your post and we will re-evaluate once its out. How about that? ;-)
I know this saying that I use and LOVE even though I'm not religious:
"You know what makes God laugh? People planning!"
You sound like you don't want to imagine any other scenario than the one you have.
Anything is possible especially with Apple. They showed us many times in the history that even for single iteration they can do redesign.
As of same "box" for Intel and AS - well, lets take iMac and iMac Pro - same box, different internals.
So, with that in mind, intel redesign will be the same as AS. Inside will change whilst also giving Apple more headroom for the thermals. That itself will make AS virtually silent as if they will use fans then those fans won't need to go as crazy as Intel.
I feel that Apple spends way more time on designing the outside than the inside as outside is what it will look like to everyone. Inside can change every year (and it often does) so its important to get the outside right first (whilst keeping the inside in mind).
That said, your logic is super 'bubbled' and I would advice you to stop for a second and think - what if my analogy is wrong - could there be another possibility (or more)?
I have saved your post and we will re-evaluate once its out. How about that? ;-)
I know this saying that I use and LOVE even though I'm not religious:
"You know what makes God laugh? People planning!"
It's been fall this year to early next.
Azrael.
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No HDD.
Ancient tech'.
Azrael.
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Apple aint going to drop anything substantially.
They don't do price cuts.
3rd party retailers might.
Azrael.
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It will come. We're look at September for the CPU and GPU kit required. Stuff that hasn't and won't be released until September.
Both are more heat efficient options.
Patience testing. Ofc. As it means 'a bit longer' wait.
Azrael.
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Fusion drive is dead tech'.
And will be 'dodo'd' with the new iMac.
Azrael.
I'll answer your 2nd point first. The NVME drive is faster in transfer speeds, but thats not very noticeable in real world use unless you're transferring truely giant (100gb plus sized files). What really makes an SSD 'feel' faster in average use are the virtually instantaneous access times, which ALL ssd's have, even 'lowly' SATA ssd's.
Back to your first point, I've upgraded drives on several imacs, including twice on friends 2017 imacs, so for me, doing the upgrade is not a problem. iFixit rates the difficulty as 'moderate'. So even they dont think its that difficult.
Why not just attach an external drive? For one, to me that somewhat defeats the beauty of having an 'all-in-one', and again, since I dont find doing the upgrade hard at all, I figure why not just go internal.
Oh yea ... one final thing. Getting the 1tb bto ssd from apple costs as much as my 4tb sata ssd. So I get a lot more bang for the buck.
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