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When do you expect an iMac redesign?

  • 4rd quarter 2019

    Votes: 34 4.1%
  • 1st quarter 2020

    Votes: 23 2.8%
  • 2nd quarter 2020

    Votes: 119 14.5%
  • 3rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 131 15.9%
  • 4rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 172 20.9%
  • 2021 or later

    Votes: 343 41.7%

  • Total voters
    822
  • Poll closed .
i dont look for the best spec for its price...but for thermals....i need this imac to work almost non stop under heavy load...i dont need to reach 95-100C like my old 295X did or the 2019
To select i5 i must go with Radeon Pro 5300...and that can be a big gap between 5300 and the 5500

And when i think next year we will have this imac on 14nm and the Apple Silicon imac under 7nm or 5nm probably..

Next year's iMac AS will bury this one.

Azrael.
 
i dont look for the best spec for its price...but for thermals....i need this imac to work almost non stop under heavy load...i dont need to reach 95-100C like my old 295X did or the 2019
To select i5 i must go with Radeon Pro 5300...and that can be a big gap between 5300 and the 5500

And when i think next year we will have this imac on 14nm and the Apple Silicon imac under 7nm or 5nm probably..

What sort of work do you do on the iMac? Out of curiosity?

I'm looking at the Tier 3 model and I'm pleasantly surprised by the price. And specs.

The only thing I have to move the needle on is the cpu, gpu and the SSD.

Azrael.
 
fokmik,

I think, if I'm being truly honest, the sweet spot is the 8 core with 5500xt.

It's a decent price for a 5k display, 8 cores and a 5500XT...with 512 gig SSD.

It's the other spec I'm contemplating before I pull the trigger.

Still leaning towards the 10 core, 5700XT and 1 TB SSD.

And that costs an extra £1100. But it comes with extra heat. Is the 'performance' worth the extra £1100?

That's an iPad 12.9 14x in October...?

Azrael.
i would buy the top spec...if the thermals can keep up...but...i think both i7 and i9 will be too hot for the single vent inside the current design...and here...if i get a CTO order i cannot return it...so i must buy another one if the top spec is doom to failed...
 
Anyone know if the 16GB 5700XT is a meme not worth it over 8GB 5700? Coming from a 560 experiencing thermal death due to my growing gaming schedule (thanks covid). I bet I wouldn't notice but I'm hungry for something unique. The nano-texture stuff looks a little high maintenance, assuming you can still only use the apple cloth to clean it like the XDR. Someone convince me to drop an unneeded $1k.
 
If Apple Silicon was not around the corner, I'd be all over the i7 with 1TB SSD and 5500XT (I have a dedicated Windows gaming machine so no need for anything more) at $2499 since I'd have two years to pay for it.
 
I'm looking at the Tier 3 model and I'm pleasantly surprised by the price. And specs.
like i said 2 pages earlier...the difference is about 600$
2019 was 600$ more expensive...so yes, this years is the best value...but again..if you take the i7 or i9 and performs like an i5....whats the point then
I think i will wait for 1 more month...or....the add to cart button is very tempting
 
i would buy the top spec...if the thermals can keep up...but...i think both i7 and i9 will be too hot for the single vent inside the current design...and here...if i get a CTO order i cannot return it...so i must buy another one if the top spec is doom to failed...

This is indeed a dilemma for anyone that orders a 'significant' iMac.

See CWallance's posts on why he goes Tier 1 (I think he said...) so the components don't 'wear' as hot.

The only other thing for those who are worried about cooling.

Would be to press the 'top' spec iMac into the face of the Apple 3rd party retailers....

...and see how the price of the iMac Pro drops.

If you could get an iMac Pro entry model for £3000-£3500.

You'd get the better cooling and sexy dark gray.

Azrael.
 
Anyone know if the 16GB 5700XT is a meme not worth it over 8GB 5700? Coming from a 560 experiencing thermal death due to my growing gaming schedule (thanks covid). I bet I wouldn't notice but I'm hungry for something unique. The nano-texture stuff looks a little high maintenance, assuming you can still only use the apple cloth to clean it like the XDR. Someone convince me to drop an unneeded $1k.
For high resolution gaming it will certainly help.
 
like i said 2 pages earlier...the difference is about 600$
2019 was 600$ more expensive...so yes, this years is the best value...but again..if you take the i7 or i9 and performs like an i5....whats the point then
I think i will wait for 1 more month...or....the add to cart button is very tempting

Every iMac I've owned? Gets hot under load.

The tier 1 will get less hot. The T3 more hot. Intel built their cpus to throttle. Boom and bust.

Azrael.
 
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The nano-texture
If you work on medium to high light environment...i suggest to take the nano-texture..if not...since the imac is for in-doors product, you should avoid it
I would place nano-texture for portable machines...its fantastic
 
Every iMac I've owned? Gets hot under load.

The tier 1 will get less hot. The T3 more hot. Intel built their cpus to throttle. Boom and bust.

Azrael.
yes...if i had the option for an 65W cpu combined with the top dGpu...
 
an imac spec comparable to my imp but with a 4tb ssd, zoomed up to $5100 pretty quickly. ouch. Luckily I can wait on the redesign AS version.
 
Glad they finally did something BUT...No thanks. I’m going to look for a good deal on a now discontinued iMac Pro 8 core. Cooling is more important to me than any of these power upgrades.

plus the Pro has 8 cores with an actual system that efficiently cools, same upgraded cameras these got, same upgraded speakers these got and built in 32 ram. Space gray will at least make it look a little different from my 2012 27” iMac that looks almost identical to this new release still.

should last me until I upgrade to AS.
 
I read some reviews of the 5700 XT and it sounds like it runs hot. GDDR6 is hotter than HBM2. My Vega 48 with HBM2 runs really cool.
 
Im glad the last Intel iMac is finally out. Not getting it though. I know I said Id get whatever they release but that was before the ARM announcements.

Decent enough upgrade. The lack of wifi 6 is dissapointing though
 
Im glad the last Intel iMac is finally out. Not getting it though. I know I said Id get whatever they release but that was before the ARM announcements.

Decent enough upgrade. The lack of wifi 6 is dissapointing though
Still no wifi6?
FFS.

I use ethernet with my desktop but not everyone does, shameless penny-pinching.
 
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It is weird the new Macs (of all models) are not coming with WiFi 6 since Intel is supporting it natively and I would expect Apple's usual WiFi+BT chip supplier has an option.

Guess that will be an Apple Silicon differentiator.
 
A few other tid bits from the spec sheet that makes this 5K a better option that the iMac Pro.
SDXC card slot (UHS‑II)
Bluetooth 5.0
True Tone

Edit: For those asking about WiFi 6, this is a VERY new standard that won't even be an official IEEE specification till Sept 2020.
 
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yes...if i had the option for an 65W cpu combined with the top dGpu...

Again. Depends on what type of work you're doing.

If it's 3d? It's going to take a sustained kicking. But renders (for some things...) aren't as long as they used to be. the 5700XT will make mince meat out of most things games or 3d gpu rendering.

If it's games. There is the argument that faster cpus and gpus operate don't work as hard as lower specs thrashing themselves harder to keep up.

A bigger engine doesn't have to work as hard?

I'd suspect these cpus and gpus are down clocked for heat reasons. And undervolted. What ever that means.

Azrael.
 
hrmm i'm wondering if the 10 core i9 is worth the 400 and extra heat or if i should get the I7 and the 5700GT

Get the ten core and the 5700XT.

That's 20 threads. And a gpu that can really push that 5k screen better than the 290 ever did.

16 gigs of gpu memory?

Obscene thoughts.*

Azrael.
 
It is weird the new Macs (of all models) are not coming with WiFi 6 since Intel is supporting it natively and I would expect Apple's usual WiFi+BT chip supplier has an option.

Guess that will be an Apple Silicon differentiator.

AS? I guess so.

However, it is too late for me...CWallace...it is legacy Intel iMac....for me.

Tim Apple is my...master....now.

*walks robotically to the Apple Store...* Serenaded by John Williams.

Azrael.
 
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