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When do you expect an iMac redesign?

  • 4rd quarter 2019

    Votes: 34 4.1%
  • 1st quarter 2020

    Votes: 23 2.8%
  • 2nd quarter 2020

    Votes: 119 14.5%
  • 3rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 131 15.9%
  • 4rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 172 20.9%
  • 2021 or later

    Votes: 343 41.7%

  • Total voters
    822
  • Poll closed .

richinaus

macrumors 68020
Oct 26, 2014
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*nods. I thought so.

It's only behind the 'non gaming' Vega stuff which were compute monsters or the 'dual' gpu card.

That IS impressive. And it's in an iMac.

It's quite simple. If you run this (or any other computer on the edge...) you will get 'some' level of acoustic noise.

Unless it's a Mac Pro which costs £6k just to get into the club. Or the iMac Pro. The cooling of which should have been ported over to this level of performance.

Azrael.

Yep thats me......

Mac Pro is too $$$ for my needs and the iMac Pro is an AIO - had it, never again as a rendering machine as I reach the limits of the gpu pretty quick. Also it wasn’t too hard to get the iMac Pro fans cranking either.

What happens is software like Octane use the GPU at 100% instant. It just runs to the limit so guaranteed the fans kick off.

But yes I have some faith that metal is going to bring some great results. Just needs other apps to get on it.
Shame one of my main apps, unreal and twinmotion are owned by Epic, but that’s a different thread.

BTW Apple had a big hand in assisting Octane get onto metal.
 

DrRadon

macrumors 65816
Feb 14, 2008
1,210
902
Whats so funny about my situation to is that absolutely no one else reports it. If it is "missing parts" why the hell am i the only one the system did this to?
 

Soulflower

macrumors regular
Jul 17, 2011
185
29
I didn't order and hate to search back through all of this. Could someone please post a link for the exact ram I need to upgrade my new iMac? Many thanks.
 

pldelisle

macrumors 68020
May 4, 2020
2,248
1,506
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
I didn't order and hate to search back through all of this. Could someone please post a link for the exact ram I need to upgrade my new iMac? Many thanks.

Cannot be simpler.

Just don't mix modules. Take Crucial and it's going to be fine. Quality American DRAM chip.
 
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anthony13

macrumors 65816
Jul 1, 2012
1,055
1,203
My 2020 iMac 10Core, 5700XT standard glass display review:

It was about June I let myself realize I’d be working from home for the next year. My career typically keeps me flying city to city all year. As such My 2017 MacBook Pro has been my workhorse for years. In fact I haven’t had a ‘desktop’ computer since the first Intel iMac. My make shift work from home setup (seen below), had me using my MacBook Pro and iPad Pro (with sidecar). As slick as I thought it was for the first month, my eyes rebelled against the small screen, and my graphics card rebelled against my increasingly 3D rendering intensive workflow (mostly drafting programs).

The waiting was the hardest part. Typically I’m a buy it when you need it kind of person when it comes to computers. But all the rumor sites suggested an iMac refresh was pending any day. We all know how that went. I’ll cut to the chase, I bought an intel iMac at the end of the intel era because I want a machine to carry me through some anticipated software snags in my field.

So, the machine. I’m not a bench mark type person, I’m just not knowledgeable enough to give numbers on performance here. What I do know is this; this machine is very fast compared to the 2017 MacBook Pro I’m coming from. In Vectorworks, the primary program I use, I am now able to move the camera around in 3D without a wait time. The high quality render’s are now my default, as opposed to the generic ‘high performance’ settings. And ETC Augment 3D, a lighting program I could barely use on my laptop, sails with no fans on this machine.

The fans are present at other times though, and that’s new to me. Sure the MacBook Pro has fans but honestly, I was typically working in coffee shops or Economy Plus; in other words I had headphones on. I’m getting used to this idea that I can literally hear productivity. That’s how I contextualize it for myself anyways. Fans! Renders! Pay checks?! Someday…

The design is awesome. I’d love to tell you it’s ‘stale’ as so many have said, but honestly this is my first iMac in this form factor and it feels great for me. It feels essential. minimalist mind you, but essential. These bezels are big. Because at the time it was designed, this was the essential bezel design for the technology needed? Sure there’s always a smaller technology, but I can tell you this is the best display I’ve owned. So if these bezels are the price of this display from Apple this year, than that’s the price I’ll gladly pay.

I mentioned my eyes were struggling before, but so was my back from sitting all day. So I also acquired a new Vari desk (great product, recommend if in budget). The stand of the iMac actually works well with a standing desk, as I can pivot the display’s angle to an optimal angle.

I do wish it had the iMac Pro cooling system inside, as that seems so obvious, and almost haphazardly not present. I enjoy the gigabit ethernet port for the future. I appreciate the up to date bluetooth standard. I’m bothered by the lack of wifi 6. Another thunderbolt port or three would have been nice. I wish this had target display mode, so that when we all eventually live in an apple silicon world, I could at least use it as an external display eventually.

Overall, very happy with this machine. Thankful for the advice from fellow forum members and ready to create.
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Azrael9

macrumors 68020
Apr 4, 2020
2,287
1,835
I didn't order and hate to search back through all of this. Could someone please post a link for the exact ram I need to upgrade my new iMac? Many thanks.

*reading from the packet.

DDR4 - 2666 SODIMM (Mac Compatible.)

Find it on Amazon. Post the link on here. And wait for pledelisle to 'approve' it. ;)

Azrael.
 

Azrael9

macrumors 68020
Apr 4, 2020
2,287
1,835
My 2020 iMac 10Core, 5700XT standard glass display review:

It was about June I let myself realize I’d be working from home for the next year. My career typically keeps me flying city to city all year. As such My 2017 MacBook Pro has been my workhorse for years. In fact I haven’t had a ‘desktop’ computer since the first Intel iMac. My make shift work from home setup (seen below), had me using my MacBook Pro and iPad Pro (with sidecar). As slick as I thought it was for the first month, my eyes rebelled against the small screen, and my graphics card rebelled against my increasingly 3D rendering intensive workflow (mostly drafting programs).

The waiting was the hardest part. Typically I’m a buy it when you need it kind of person when it comes to computers. But all the rumor sites suggested an iMac refresh was pending any day. We all know how that went. I’ll cut to the chase, I bought an intel iMac at the end of the intel era because I want a machine to carry me through some anticipated software snags in my field.

So, the machine. I’m not a bench mark type person, I’m just not knowledgeable enough to give numbers on performance here. What I do know is this; this machine is very fast compared to the 2017 MacBook Pro I’m coming from. In Vectorworks, the primary program I use, I am now able to move the camera around in 3D without a wait time. The high quality render’s are now my default, as opposed to the generic ‘high performance’ settings. And ETC Augment 3D, a lighting program I could barely use on my laptop, sails with no fans on this machine.

The fans are present at other times though, and that’s new to me. Sure the MacBook Pro has fans but honestly, I was typically working in coffee shops or Economy Plus; in other words I had headphones on. I’m getting used to this idea that I can literally hear productivity. That’s how I contextualize it for myself anyways. Fans! Renders! Pay checks?! Someday…

The design is awesome. I’d love to tell you it’s ‘stale’ as so many have said, but honestly this is my first iMac in this form factor and it feels great for me. It feels essential. Not minimist mind you, but essential. These bezels are big. Because at the time it was designed, this was the essential bezel design for the technology needed? Sure there’s always a smaller technology, but I can tell you this is the best display I’ve owned. So if these bezels are the price of this display from Apple this year, than that’s the price I’ll gladly pay.

I mentioned my eyes were struggling before, but so was my back from sitting all day. So I also acquired a new Vari desk (great product, recommend if in budget). The stand of the iMac actually works well with a standing desk, as I can pivot the display’s angle to an optimal angle.

I do wish it had the iMac Pro cooling system inside, as that seems so obvious, and almost haphazardly not present. I enjoy the gigabit ethernet port for the future. I appreciate the up to date bluetooth standard. I’m bothered by the lack of wifi 6. Another thunderbolt port or three would have been nice. I wish this had target display mode, so that when we all eventually live in an apple silicon world, I could at least use it as an external display eventually.

Overall, very happy with this machine. Thankful for the advice from fellow forum members and ready to create.
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Sound review, anthony13.

Azrael.
 
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Soulflower

macrumors regular
Jul 17, 2011
185
29
*reading from the packet.

DDR4 - 2666 SODIMM (Mac Compatible.)

Find it on Amazon. Post the link on here. And wait for pledelisle to 'approve' it. ;)

Azrael.
Pretty sure he will approve this.

 

pldelisle

macrumors 68020
May 4, 2020
2,248
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Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Freida

Suspended
Oct 22, 2010
4,077
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This is a good eye opener re: nano coating

 

Azrael9

macrumors 68020
Apr 4, 2020
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Another Cinebench run by me. (Half way through the run. No fans. They just kick in to a 'low whrrr' for the last half of the render...for those 'fan noise' people who are aware of such things...I am...)

5658.

With? 40 gigs of RAM installed. (Finally got round to installing my RAM this morning.)

I followed 9 to 5 Mac's advice and video on installing the RAM. 1st time I've done that on a Mac. (Please, no jokes about being a 'RAM virgin...')

Both (!) 2x4 gig Apple RAM sticks in the 1st two slots.
Both (!) 2x16 gig Crucial RAM sticks in the last two slots.

I quote: 'Your Mac contains 4 memory slots, each of which accepts a 2667 MHz DDR4 memory module. All memory slots are currently in use.'

Azrael.
 

Whiteman007

macrumors regular
Dec 21, 2008
179
61
Another Cinebench run by me. (Half way through the run. No fans. They just kick in to a 'low whrrr' for the last half of the render...for those 'fan noise' people who are aware of such things...I am...)

5658.

With? 40 gigs of RAM installed. (Finally got round to installing my RAM this morning.)

I followed 9 to 5 Mac's advice and video on installing the RAM. 1st time I've done that on a Mac. (Please, no jokes about being a 'RAM virgin...')

Both (!) 2x4 gig Apple RAM sticks in the 1st two slots.
Both (!) 2x16 gig Crucial RAM sticks in the last two slots.

I quote: 'Your Mac contains 4 memory slots, each of which accepts a 2667 MHz DDR4 memory module. All memory slots are currently in use.'

Azrael.

show your ram config cuzz doing 9to5's method u lose duel channel and is a waste

with 3rd party ram you have 2 options form all i have seen. you either lose the 2667 speed but keep duel channel or you lose DUEL CHANNEL but keep 2667 and have 40 gigs
 

Azrael9

macrumors 68020
Apr 4, 2020
2,287
1,835
iMac20,2

Geekbench 5 Score

1251
Single-Core Score
7571
Multi-Core Score

With 40 gigs of RAM installed.

Azrael.
 

Whiteman007

macrumors regular
Dec 21, 2008
179
61
iMac20,2

Geekbench 5 Score

1251
Single-Core Score
7571
Multi-Core Score

With 40 gigs of RAM installed.

Azrael.
yep those are low your losing deul channel MULTI should be close to 9000 with the i9

you dont want both apples and the 3rd party in A or B.

@Azrael9 did you run that test with nothing open?
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Whiteman007

macrumors regular
Dec 21, 2008
179
61
i even get. This is with 50 chrome tabs mail, Discord, tweetbot/steam/Epic Luncher/universal media player open and i have a twitch stream running in 720P

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Azrael9

macrumors 68020
Apr 4, 2020
2,287
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did u just put in the 32 gigs? is your ram crucial?

The RAM is Crucial. I did put in the 32 gig sticks.

In about this Mac...

Is there any way to check your RAM dual channel speed?

I guess I could just swap them around and compare.

Azrael.
 

Whiteman007

macrumors regular
Dec 21, 2008
179
61
The RAM is Crucial. I did put in the 32 gig sticks.

In about this Mac...

Is there any way to check your RAM dual channel speed?

I guess I could just swap them around and compare.

Azrael.

go to abou this mac, system report, memory then take a pic. CMD+Shift+4 and the do it like this then drag the picturn into the text box

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