Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?

[Migranya]

In this "interview":

Jon Prosser said (in 53:20) again that iMac is ready to ship. He thinks that if it's not a redesign it could be dropped before WWDC, but if we are talking of a redesign maybe they are waiting for WWDC.

 

[Icaras]

In this "interview":

Jon Prosser said (in 53:20) again that iMac is ready to ship. He thinks that if it's not a redesign it could be dropped before WWDC, but if we are talking of a redesign maybe they are waiting for WWDC.

All the more reason to hope for the WWDC release, which I have been thinking it would be all this time. Not holding my breath until next month!

 

[DrRadon]

In this "interview":

Jon Prosser said (in 53:20) again that iMac is ready to ship. He thinks that if it's not a redesign it could be dropped before WWDC, but if we are talking of a redesign maybe they are waiting for WWDC.

The actually leak Info he gives is missing in your words.

• He heard nothing about iMac Pro. (stated around minute 67)
• iMac was supposed to happen in March. It's been ready to ship for a while, wich is unusual because usually ready to ship means it drops ASAP.
• He states the timeline got messed up because "there was no march event".

Anything beyond that is just him being a geek like us, speculating about a Redesign and that it would be a wast to have iMac at WWDC without it being a Redesign. But non of that is leak info.


The information i take from this.

• This means the new intel chips (announced April 30th, 4-8 weeks after Apples plan to release the new iMac) had nothing to do with Apples initial plans for the new iMac. Who knows, maybe now we get a 10th generation upsell for BTO.
• There is no info given by Jon on the iMac already sitting in warehouses since march. This might as well have been the one product that got hit by Corona delay and now needs to find it's space in Apples release timeline.
• Mark Gurmans leak of a "substantial" iMac refresh, with a possible redesign, "happening this year" was told by him way after March ended. So who knows what is up with that.
  I feel strongly that he talks about the MiniLED/ARM switch wich we all know has been pushed back to 2021 according to reliable leaks. At least i don't see Apple pushing out two new generations of iMac in 2020 only to overwhelm it all another half year later with 23 inch MiniLED Arm models. - Because a substantial update in March would have been what?! That 10th gen Intel would have not been on the table (as in, were is the substance?). Some new GPU without better cooling? Eeeeh.
• So still feeling massive specs bump only vibes on my end.

 

[NewUsername]

Just curious, is today a public holiday in the US? In Europe it is Ascension Day.

Not that I'm expecting an update today. 😁

 

[DrRadon]

Just curious, is today a public holiday in the US? In Europe it is Ascension Day.

Not that I'm expecting an update today. 😁

I think Apple is don with this week. New Apple Watch bands and the Update for anything iOS related not only being a thing but actually being a rather newsworthy thing due to the COVID-19 tracking API.

If this iMac is specs bump only it's probably hitting next week or the week after. After that it gets within two weeks of WWDC and probably the planed Apple TV 4k gaming refresh.

I would say 8th on June is the latest Date to release something before WWDC. Just because a good amount of the product releases that are noteworthy have been at least 14 days appeared recently.
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Let me Geek out a bit more about Apples "Timeline" Prosser talked about.

WWDC was delayed two weeks from 8.6.2020 to 22.6.2020.

Calling iMac specs bump for Wednesday 3.6.2020

Exactly 30 days after MacBookPro (you will see a lot of 30 day timeframes in Apples recent releases).

They literally freed up that week for iMac by pushing WWDC back.

 

[sigamy]

Just curious, is today a public holiday in the US? In Europe it is Ascension Day.

Not that I'm expecting an update today. 😁

In the US, public holidays are on Monday's. I believe the only exceptions are religious holidays and Thanksgiving (4th Thursday in November). (things like Valentines Day and Halloween are not public holidays)

 

[Manfredi]

at this step i definitely expect a simple (and sad) spec bumps.... before WWDC...

 

[FrankySavvy]

My opinion, if it was a spec bump it would have been released already. Apple may have wanted more hype for an iMac redesign in March so they may have put it off until WWDC.

 

[gusping]

at this step i definitely expect a simple (and sad) spec bumps.... before WWDC...

It will be a spec bump with that attitude! Buck up your ideas, son.

 

[DrRadon]

It will be a spec bump with that attitude! Buck up your ideas, son.

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My opinion, if it was a spec bump it would have been released already. Apple may have wanted more hype for an iMac redesign in March so they may have put it off until WWDC.

It was not released because of the other releases scheduled.
Why delay WWDC? Why change the schedule if there was not something that needed to be fit in?

 

[Migranya]

A release before WWDC and a redesign are not incompatible things. Remember that the 16-inch MacBook Pro was released with a press release. That scenario can happen again with the iMac.

If there is a major redesign I think Apple will save it for the next iMac Pro in Q4 2020 or Q1 2021.

 

[Martius]

This means the new intel chips (announced April 30th, 4-8 weeks after Apples plan to release the new iMac) had nothing to do with Apples initial plans for the new iMac. Who knows, maybe now we get a 10th generation upsell for BTO.

I find that really weird... why did they planned to launch a new (upgraded) iMac in March without a new generation of Intel chips?

Possibilities:
1) Really just a quick spec bump = SSDs, more RAM, maybe True Tone...?! Same 9th gen chips (maybe 9th gen in lower configurations) = no redesign.
2) Switch to ARM / AMD (1% chance , at least in 2020) = redesign.
3) Apple thought Intel will release the 10th gen sooner, but it got delayed = I guess Apple gets the chips month earlier before Intel offically release them, so they have manufactured the iMacs, but Intel said no = maybe redesign.

 

[DrRadon]

I find that really weird... why did they planned to launch a new (upgraded) iMac in March without a new generation of Intel chips?

They did that before, in plenty of generations. Just look at all the MacBooks released this year. There’s exactly one that comes with 10th gen chips. And it’s the only one released after intels announcement. Would be nice if the delay gives us gen 10 on the high end iMacs.

 

[Manfredi]

A release before WWDC and a redesign are not incompatible things. Remember that the 16-inch MacBook Pro was released with a press release. That scenario can happen again with the iMac.

If there is a major redesign I think Apple will save it for the next iMac Pro in Q4 2020 or Q1 2021.

correct... maybe.... but for sure are incompatible with ARM.

honestly at this stage I definitely prefer a redesign instead of an ARM....

having an iMac ARM now, considering tansition phase, would mean having a Mac that you could use at 100% after 2 years when probably Apple will have introduce ARM at 20core...

 

[DrRadon]

If there is a major redesign I think Apple will save it for the next iMac Pro in Q4 2020 or Q1 2021.

I would argue that the iMac Pro actually already is a redesign considering that it brought different cooling and removed the ram door. Not major, but apprentice it makes a big difference in how noisy the machine runs.
also I am wondering when they will switch to something that is more of a real consumer / pro split Like they did when they made MacBook Air and MacBook pro a thing Scrapping the normal MacBook Name. you could argue on were the line is, but I would say at the absolut final edge... when you ad a Vega to your iMac that’s a pro machine — it just is. They should just start up the pro lineup somewhere at 2500 or 3000€ and have something a lot smaller in footprint And price below that for people that don’t go beyond browsing and Netflix. Might aswell just be a iPad thick monitor coming from something like a bigger MacMini, no real gpu style.

 

[dn325ci]

I think Apple is don with this week. New Apple Watch bands and the Update for anything iOS related not only being a thing but actually being a rather newsworthy thing due to the COVID-19 tracking API.

If this iMac is specs bump only it's probably hitting next week or the week after. After that it gets within two weeks of WWDC and probably the planed Apple TV 4k gaming refresh.

I would say 8th on June is the latest Date to release something before WWDC. Just because a good amount of the product releases that are noteworthy have been at least 14 days appeared recently.
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Let me Geek out a bit more about Apples "Timeline" Prosser talked about.

WWDC was delayed two weeks from 8.6.2020 to 22.6.2020.

Calling iMac specs bump for Wednesday 3.6.2020

Exactly 30 days after MacBookPro (you will see a lot of 30 day timeframes in Apples recent releases).

They literally freed up that week for iMac by pushing WWDC back.

Could be, and some merit. However, my view is that the WWDC announcement with the hello script and what appears to be the back of an iMac hints towards a stronger role for Mac in the WWDC. My forecast is for a stronger redesign than just a spec bump. Apple has launched quite a few significant products recently with press releases. My instinct is there is a reason they are holding this for WWDC. But I could be wrong - just my perspective.

 

[jukkhop]

Same trick with 27":

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One of these, thank you very much.

 

[DrRadon]

having an iMac ARM now, considering tansition phase, would mean having a Mac that you could use at 100% after 2 years when probably Apple will have introduce ARM at 20core...

you will not get a „btw. here is a arm mac 😂, good luck with it, kthxbye“ from Apple. Stuff like that will get announced at WWDC so the coding community can prepare to have their software working. Same as you know about news in iOS month before the big update hits, just that iOS runs on the same core System while intel to arm might be a very different base to work on.
this iMac will 100% not be ARM. Wich again sees plenty of reasons for a redesign float over to 2021. you loose some functionality but Apple brings the shiny new bling bling.
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Could be, and some merit. However, my view is that the WWDC announcement with the hello script and what appears to be the back of an iMac hints towards a stronger role for Mac in the WWDC. My forecast is for a stronger redesign than just a spec bump. Apple has launched quite a few significant products recently with press releases. My instinct is there is a reason they are holding this for WWDC. But I could be wrong - just my perspective.

That might as well be the back of a MacBook (like in every wwdc themed Memoj) Wich fits stickers a lot more than the back of an iMac. And again, prosper leaked that this iMac was already supposed to be sold in March. They probably had plant something else for wwdc from the get go, just because big company’s tend to plan out their years in advance. There’s lots of glasses in all these Memojis...

you could argue Apple delayed wwdc to unbox every iMac and put a new chip in it, but let’s be real here, Apple proudly sells old hardware at a premium.... Really at this point people should stop setting themselves up for disappointment, if it is a useful redesign that dos not **** the consumer over (lots more expensive, less power to save space and so one) yay... but the old design looks just fine. Give us new chips and move on.

 

[dn325ci]

...the old design looks just fine. Give us new chips and move on.

On such an old design, if it were “new chips and move on” they will undoubtedly do that with a press release and not spend time on it at WWDC. In fact, such a press release could have been done as far back as the Mac mini press release. They held it for one reason or another. I think you’re wrong, and it’s more than “new chips” but we’ll see.

 

[DrRadon]

On such an old design, if it were “new chips and move on” they will undoubtedly do that with a press release and not spend time on it at WWDC. In fact, such a press release could have been done as far back as the Mac mini press release. They held it for one reason or another. I think you’re wrong, and it’s more than “new chips” but we’ll see.

But MacMini also came with iPad Pro And MacBook Air.
They are spreading stuff out over the year to stay at the very least in the tech section of newspapers, blogs and magazines. That’s marketing. And to a degree warehouse management.

Thats why I made the assumption that they pushed back wwdc two weeks to fit in iMac June third.

 

[dn325ci]

But MacMini also came with iPad Pro And MacBook Air.
They are spreading stuff out over the year to stay at the very least in the tech section of newspapers, blogs and magazines. That’s marketing. And to a degree warehouse management.

Thats why I made the assumption that they pushed back wwdc two weeks to fit in iMac June third.

Like I said, I think you’re wrong but we shall see!

 

[Kalae]

Makes sense to me there will be a 2021 ARM iMac with mini-LED, Face ID, etc.
A 2020 iMac could be a spec bump with or without a bezel shrink (like the 16" MBp), but I can't see it happening at the same WWDC where (I believe) they announce an ARM transition.

 

[jetjaguar]

A release before WWDC and a redesign are not incompatible things. Remember that the 16-inch MacBook Pro was released with a press release. That scenario can happen again with the iMac.

If there is a major redesign I think Apple will save it for the next iMac Pro in Q4 2020 or Q1 2021.

Yup .. if there is any redesign it will be on the iMac Pro first. Sadly I am expecting just a spec refresh with maybe a slight bezel reduction.

 

[DrRadon]

Yup .. if there is any redesign it will be on the iMac Pro first. Sadly I am expecting just a spec refresh with maybe a slight bezel reduction.

i don’t see bezel shrinking at all. If you make the iMac smaller you change the angels for the back, you change the space inside, you redesign the entire thing, as in the component Lay-out on the inside.
The only thing I could see is the pro cooling and loosing the ram door as sort of a last hurrah with maximum power.with all of that already in place and in the production lines for years or even many yearsApple saves so much money.thats why a low cost phone like the es is possible, everything for that is cheap and has been in place for years.

like, I would have loved to have seen a new SE in the 5s body, but with edge to edge screen... but that introduces new components, they need to be developed, all machines need to be adjusted and so on.

 

[DLary]

At the US online Apple store. BTO iMac Pro available next week. BTO 27" iMac not available until 23 June