MAYBE. Honestly, I can’t say I know the specific concern. Call it a hunch based on the trajectory of current technology, companies, governments, and crime. We’ve seen that we give up information and power for the sake of convenience and entertainment, and find out after the fact that nefarious people can and are doing (or will do) things with it that we didn’t imagine. What worries me way more than Face ID is what companies like “23 and Me” are doing with obtaining people’s DNA—I feel like that opens up dangerous doors on another scale. Like I said before, I may be erring on the side of paranoia, I hope I am, but to me that’s better than erring the other way.
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Will you buy the upcoming iPad Pro with Face ID? Please specify why and what is your use case.
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MAYBE. Honestly, I can’t say I know the specific concern. Call it a hunch based on the trajectory of current technology, companies, governments, and crime. We’ve seen that we give up information and power for the sake of convenience and entertainment, and find out after the fact that nefarious people can and are doing (or will do) things with it that we didn’t imagine. What worries me way more than Face ID is what companies like “23 and Me” are doing with obtaining people’s DNA—I feel like that opens up dangerous doors on another scale. Like I said before, I may be erring on the side of paranoia, I hope I am, but to me that’s better than erring the other way.
I suppose I would, depending on what is included with Face ID, as Face ID alone wouldn’t be enough to make me to buy a particular IPP. The package of screen size, resolution, speed, storage, and the UI (e.g. swipes) - in addition to Face ID - would have to be compelling.
I like Face ID well enough on my iPhone. It mostly works as advertised. It’s just not the killer feature, for me.
I use my Air 2 in place of my recently-sold 2014 MPB, which had begun to gather dust. My main uses are of course email and web browsing, banking and budgeting, simple spreadsheets, a fair amount of writing, personal organization, viewing and occasionally editing photos on a larger screen than my iPhone, listening to music, and research on land and title work.
I’d thought I’d get an IPP once my MPB was sold. But now I’m considering replacing my 2010 27” iMac, as its days appear numbered since it won’t run Mojave or the new version of VMWare Fusion. Doubt I’ll upgrade both devices at once.
I like Face ID well enough on my iPhone. It mostly works as advertised. It’s just not the killer feature, for me.
I use my Air 2 in place of my recently-sold 2014 MPB, which had begun to gather dust. My main uses are of course email and web browsing, banking and budgeting, simple spreadsheets, a fair amount of writing, personal organization, viewing and occasionally editing photos on a larger screen than my iPhone, listening to music, and research on land and title work.
I’d thought I’d get an IPP once my MPB was sold. But now I’m considering replacing my 2010 27” iMac, as its days appear numbered since it won’t run Mojave or the new version of VMWare Fusion. Doubt I’ll upgrade both devices at once.
True. We are living in a new age. I guess i was focusing on the conspiracy nut side of the issue. Sometimes it goes too far with average people who think the government is spying on them. But i totally agree about identity theft and corporations selling or losing our personal data. Totally warranted fear.
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I hear ya. Loved the Snowden movie. And my Dad who was a political cartoonist always taught me to question the government. I know they do have their hands in our private lives more & more. Like my Dad, i’m pretty left wing & active in my political beliefs. I don’t edit myself online. Even tho i am concerned as a citizen about government snooping of its citizens, I guess my attitude is one of defiance. Let em’ snoop on me. I’ve got a few things i’d like em’ to know. Heh heh heh. But seriously, personally, i’m more concerned with hackers & identity thieves when it comes to my personal online data. Facebook & other companies using my data is kinda creepy too, but i believe thats more of a personal choice that one can opt out of if they wish or at least take safeguards against.
If the new iPad Pro's have a notch I will not be upgrading my current 2nd gen iPad pro.
No reason at all for an iPad to have a notch.
No reason at all for an iPad to have a notch.
To me it would make sense to have an edge to edge display on the short dimension, and a smaller bezel than current 10.5” iPads on each end of the long dimension, one of which would house the FaceID unit. This would allow the same overall screen ratio in a 10.5” housing but a bigger screen. I’m not sure if this would turn out to be 11” display or some other size. It would also give a small area to grip when in landscape mode.
Would this make people happy?
totally agree. A bezel notch on an iPad does not make any sense. The iPad does not need to be edge to edge. Quite frankly, the iPad Pro's already have slim side bezels. Remove the home button, reduce the bezels at top and bottom and house the face ID unit within the slim bezel.
Exactly. I think of all the Apple products, Face ID makes the least amount of sense on a phone. Which isn't to say that it shouldn't have Face ID, merely that it makes more sense on tablets and computers. Your fingers are always on your phone and the home button naturally falls by your thumb with a phone. Not so with iPads and computers. Especially now that Apple seems to have worked out fluid gestures for iOS on iPad, Touch ID & the Home Button itself seems regressive. IMO an ideal iPP would no long have any orientation and instead of speakers and a lightening port on either short end.
I voted "No" as you are missing the "Maybe" or similar option.
I would need to see Face ID in action, it would need to support Landscape mode, and greater than one face.
I would need to see Face ID in action, it would need to support Landscape mode, and greater than one face.
I use my iPad for all my daily things, like notes, email, etc. But for real work I need my Macbook pro, to run virtual machines, build containers, code software, etc. (and 500 SSH connections 
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I will NOT buy an iPad pro with faceID, however, if they release a normal or mini size iPad with FaceID, I will buy it faster then you can blink.
)I will NOT buy an iPad pro with faceID, however, if they release a normal or mini size iPad with FaceID, I will buy it faster then you can blink.
I use the 10.5” iPad Pro a *lot* on cardio. The slim bezels make it impossible to reach Touch ID if it ever locks as the stair stepper has a short lip on the tray. I find myself trying to not fall off the stairs at 90-100 steps a minute as I’m sliding the iPad left and right to get to the button, or controls, at the bottom of the screen.
If I could just look at it, and then drag the entire screen up to open - would be a welcome improvement.
If I could just look at it, and then drag the entire screen up to open - would be a welcome improvement.
Most uses of iPAd in our home are for children. Gestures without home button are a poor interface for adults and terrible for children for whom gestures are even more confusing nonsense. But I guess the pro not aimed at children so might not impact us as much. We do have a pro for children to color on and practice art things.
I am using a iPad Pro 12.9 2nd Gen. Use it for personal and business. I've had it for about 8 months. It has replaced my desktop and laptop. Arguing either way for being a replacement is just childish. Nobody's usage is the same so you can't say which is better. What works for you, works for you. THE END. Having an opinion either way is great but getting nasty in a forum is just stupid. My whole business is rooted in iPad and works great. I do investment and insurance business so am required to have at least a passcode for my iPad. I use fingerprint because it is easier. I have no intention of purchasing a new iPad at this time but I am not a fan of FaceID. I don't think it will be as convenient on the iPads like it is on the phone. I would like to see an option on the new iPads to use numeric, fingerprint or Face ID to unlock the device. Even a combination of two of those for extra security. Make it user option of course.
I’m sorry but that’s just a fundamental misunderstanding of what the Secure Enclave is. You’d have to physically tear apart the SoC to get to it, destroying the ability to extract (highly encrypted) data in the first place.
If you’re worried about people getting your biometrics you should be raising hell at you town council meetings any time a new traffic cam goes up.
I share your concern about the family history companies, they’re all connected to the military and have already been used by police agencies.
After using split view on an air 2 , I definitely want more screen space
The Pro is perfect imo
The Pro is perfect imo
I have a question. If the 10.5” iPad Pro loses it’s bezels & increases the screen size to 11” as is being rumored as a possibility in the next version...will it then be large enough to display 2 full size apps side by side like the current 12.9” iPad Pro?
Nope. Faceid seems like a step back from touchID on the iPad since it only supports one user, whereas with touchID you could have multiple finger prints from multiple people. iPads are more likely to be shared than iPhones. Also have no interest in smaller bezels. The bezels on the iPad Pro 10.5 are small enough. Any smaller and it will become a pain to hold securely without blocking the screen. Also bezels provide an eye buffer. I learned that the hard way by getting a bezel-less monitor previously. It gave me headaches without that buffer between the actual screen and background activity.
I don’t understand this fe
I don’t understand this fear of no bezels. People say how they won’t be able to hold an iPad without bezels. Huh?! When I hold an iPad in landscape or portrait mode, my palms press against the sides with my fingers supporting the back, and my thumbs are free to type. No part of my hand even touches the bezels...so there would be NO issue with a bezel-less iPad. There would only be more screen space to use which is great. And Apple already has palm rejection technology that works great. So if they go bezel-less...I am sure they will even tweak it further to include edge rejection technology. So relax. A bezel-less iPad will be fine.
I don’t understand this fear of no bezels. People say how they won’t be able to hold an iPad without bezels. Huh?! When I hold an iPad in landscape or portrait mode, my palms press against the sides with my fingers supporting the back, and my thumbs are free to type. No part of my hand even touches the bezels...so there would be NO issue with a bezel-less iPad. There would only be more screen space to use which is great. And Apple already has palm rejection technology that works great. So if they go bezel-less...I am sure they will even tweak it further to include edge rejection technology. So relax. A bezel-less iPad will be fine.
Try holding an iPad Pro with one hand securely in landscape mode. There is no way your palm or thumb wouldn’t be covering part of the screen if the bezels were any smaller. Palm rejection doesn’t make your hand see through!