I didn’t have a problem with it before either. I’m just telling you it’s not new.
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Will you leave the Apple ecosystem because of CSAM?
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This far into the discussion and you're still posting as if not a single logical objection has been made.
I have no criticism of arguing back and forth about this type of thing. Quite the opposite, actually - I think this forum is far too moderated. But you're repeatedly arguing the exact same point, often with the exact same people.
A privacy-minded person wouldn't logically buy a product with major features that they already know can't be used without compromising their privacy. And that compromise could extend beyond the limited scope involving a single image upload.
Windows has never deleted software that the user installed. They don't even remove features that they no longer support without telling you in advance. Forget the whataboutism. What you are saying is NOT TRUE.
I’ve had it happen twice. We have custom software that was written specifically for our company just vanish after a windows update. It runs as a service and we have to reinstall it once in a while when windows decides to delete it.
I’m really not making this up.
The removal did not come from Windows, so something in the way your company designed Windows update caused it. They did something in policy editor to cause it. Windows does not remove anything user installed unless directed. I am a Windows Certified Engineer, I know better than that.
They are not going to catch anyone because according to you, they have been told how not to get caught.
True.
Facebooks numbers are submissions to NCMEC. I wonder what the conviction numbers are.
It’s software that we hired someone to write back in the early 2000’s. It’s a critical piece of software that just deletes itself after a windows update. Not sure what exactly causes it but both times it happened it was after a windows 10 update.
You might recall I'm a retired IT Admin. While I usually avoided it to the best of my ability, I was obliged to help ride herd over a couple hundred or so MS-Win desktops and laptops. From 3.1 through 7 (skipping Vista). In addition to a plethora of purchased and freeware apps for a variety of purposes, there were also in-house designed and coded applications. As you might imagine: I was intimately familiar with what worked and what did not. (More familiar than ever I wanted to be.)
I don't recall MS-Win ever randomly deleting apps.
Mind you: I hate MS-Win with a deep and abiding passion. I've never used it, other than what was strictly required as part of my job. So I'm not inclined to gloss-over MS-Win's defects.
I'm the exact same way about Windows. Any time I get into a discussion about it I make that disclaimer, although my dislike becomes obvious pretty damn quick.
There are many reasons, some are very subjective, but the fact remains that each encounter I have had with Windows is worse than the one before.
Sorry that you’ve never run across this. I don’t know what to tell you. My users don’t even have admin privileges to delete stuff.
It could be a ton of things. There are no doubt some brain-dead corporate IT policies or routines that could do something like that.
So Apple will never allow the US Government to expand this functionality? Apple will "just say No."?
But they didn't when we supposed to get E2EE for the Cloud. That was the FBI asking.
Sigh ....
The more I think back over Apple behavior during the last few years and look at it with less trusting eyes, I find more and more that is disheartening.
But they didn't when we supposed to get E2EE for the Cloud. That was the FBI asking.
Sigh ....
The more I think back over Apple behavior during the last few years and look at it with less trusting eyes, I find more and more that is disheartening.
Just for the record, you can disable Windows Update yourself quite easily.
Open File Explorer, select C:\Windows\system32, right click 'system32'. There's a permissions menu. Click that. I am not sure where it is but somewhere there's advanced permissions, and you take ownership of the folder and delete any permissions except administrators, and give that one full control. Remove all others. (don't worry it doesn't break anything, just gives you write access to the files inside). Takes awhile but eventually completes.
Once that's done, ctrl-alt-del to open task manager. Go to where processes are, select detailed or all processes (they change the name so often I can't keep up) and somewhere you might see a 'musnotifyicon.exe' running if the little icon with green dot is in your system tray awaiting a restart to finish updates. Find that file in system32, and you have to be quick. But kill the task and delete the file before it respawns itself. If done, the file is gone, and the icon will vanish once you mouse over it. Also make sure to delete the file taskchd.exe, which makes Windows update service restart itself if disabled or if it crashes.
Open run (Win+R) and type 'services.msc.' Once that launches, find Windows Update and Update Orchestrator service and disable them. Stop them first, then select 'disabled' in the drop down list. Since the scheduler is gone, they can never restart.
This should effectively disable any and all Windows updates. You might get some icon or error saying 'windows update needs repair' in Settings, but ignore it. If you actually need or desire to update in the future, there's a Windows Update Assistant you can download on Microsoft's page that does it manually, and offers a way to undo any changes if something breaks.
Personally, those lines of text I spat into the terminal were loads faster to achieve the same results in Linux.
Open File Explorer, select C:\Windows\system32, right click 'system32'. There's a permissions menu. Click that. I am not sure where it is but somewhere there's advanced permissions, and you take ownership of the folder and delete any permissions except administrators, and give that one full control. Remove all others. (don't worry it doesn't break anything, just gives you write access to the files inside). Takes awhile but eventually completes.
Once that's done, ctrl-alt-del to open task manager. Go to where processes are, select detailed or all processes (they change the name so often I can't keep up) and somewhere you might see a 'musnotifyicon.exe' running if the little icon with green dot is in your system tray awaiting a restart to finish updates. Find that file in system32, and you have to be quick. But kill the task and delete the file before it respawns itself. If done, the file is gone, and the icon will vanish once you mouse over it. Also make sure to delete the file taskchd.exe, which makes Windows update service restart itself if disabled or if it crashes.
Open run (Win+R) and type 'services.msc.' Once that launches, find Windows Update and Update Orchestrator service and disable them. Stop them first, then select 'disabled' in the drop down list. Since the scheduler is gone, they can never restart.
This should effectively disable any and all Windows updates. You might get some icon or error saying 'windows update needs repair' in Settings, but ignore it. If you actually need or desire to update in the future, there's a Windows Update Assistant you can download on Microsoft's page that does it manually, and offers a way to undo any changes if something breaks.
Personally, those lines of text I spat into the terminal were loads faster to achieve the same results in Linux.
The refrain oft heard from me was "Every time I get to thinking MS-Windows can't possibly surprise me again, it does some new wondrously stupid thing to prove me wrong."
I remember an ad about 20 years ago from Apple (probably) that had the IT guy saying basically: I don't mind dealing with NT at work--it's my job--but it's the last thing I want to deal with when I go home and use my own computer.
This is one reason why I'm concerned with the direction Apple seems to be heading in (both with this CSAM issue, but some other issues). I'm currently running Linux--but I still respected Apple, and viewed Apple as a good alternative in the event that I needed a commercial OS.
Funny you should say that.
When I first looked into making the switch from Android to iOS, everything I read suggested iOS had a better security record. Then there were the privacy issues with Google. But today I started poking-around on the web, looking into the same questions again. It seems Android has come a long way wrt security--to the point it appears they're on par--with even an advantage to Android being more customizable/tuneable. Apple still wins on the privacy front--or did until they came up with this CSAM-scanning idea. Now not so much. And, it turns out, you can address a lot of the Android privacy concerns with judicious settings tweaks and app selection.
Welp... Can't jump on this bandwagon. I love Windows as an operating system. It performs flawlessly and does more on the desktop than any other I use without sacrifice. Still I didn't have anything against MacOS or IOS until now. Now there is an issue that matters to me very much.
I’ve used windows since 3.11. Windows 2000 was good, 7 was good but I can’t stand windows 10.
I have it running on a computer in the basement.
I'm pretty sure my 2007 iPod classic isn't a security risk for me... neither should my Power Mac be if I'm careful, which I am. Not that there's any Mac OS 9 malware still left on the Internet, if the trouble you have to go through to infect Windows 98SE on purpose is any indication. Hell, websites from 2010 are becoming scarce, let alone 2000. And any that are still there are long abandoned, so the most harm it can really do is wipe my hard drive.
I don't think I'll buy anything new, though. Any more Apple acquisitions are either going to be an extra iPod or more PowerPC Macs.
I don't think I'll buy anything new, though. Any more Apple acquisitions are either going to be an extra iPod or more PowerPC Macs.
Why run it at all if you can't stand it? Understand something here. I run Windows and love it because of the way it performs and the options it provides. I am not "in love" with or "hate" a company. As long as any company gives me what I want without issue we are good. I guess if I have a favorite company, it would be Klipsch. I purchased their high-end speakers literally 30 years ago as a kid, saved up all summer. Those speakers still perform and sound incredible to this very day. Now that is a lifetime guarantee.
Technically I can't stand Android 11 in stock form. Thankfully all my favorite software and UI mods that work in Android 2.3 still work on 11 (2.3, Gingerbread, was my favorite version). I also got updates disabled for everything. Sure, one day my Walmart app will probably need a manual update since eventually the server that the version I'm running will die, but other than that, my older apps work and most don't even need the internet.
Windows 10 can be made tolerable with Star dock's mods, including making it look exactly like Windows XP or Vista or 7.
I have some specific software that is Windows only and it needs USB and serial access, so I can't run it (successfully) in a VM.
I'm not a gamer, so I'm not worried about any of that.
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