....and it's one of our few options for the future. If we don't support this stuff today, future options won't be any better. Mac switchers can support the Linux ecosystem with their dollars.
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Will you leave the Apple ecosystem because of CSAM?
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Purism is taking on a lot. From hardware to software, they're pushing everything to be open. open source hw/sw options will only improve with significant investment. Apple puts billions of dollars into R&D because we paid them to do it.
Yep, we need E2E encrypted cloud services that don't have surveillance features stuck in. Today's options aren't great, but it's all we've got. NextCloud? Open to ideas!
Yes, but it runs full desktop Linux. Plug it into a monitor/keyboard/mouse and you suddenly have a full Linux desktop. No other phone can do that out of the box, not even the iPad.
It stands for more than specs. It's a bold move, like the original iPhone was in 2007. Sure, the iPhone 2g was junk, but it was totally different to anything else out there. Look where continued investment took it.
As for a phone that sucks as a phone, I think many smartphones today qualify. Nobody can hear me on my iPhone X, but I don't make phone calls anymore so I'd rather get battery life back. The Galaxy Notes are so comically large you might as well hold a tablet up to your ear.
Should be. Few bother. Of course we did for my employer, but I don't at home. I do rolling backups and the idle media is in a safe. I cross my fingers and hope that'll be sufficient. The alternatives would be the expense and hassle of a safe deposit box or maintaining a backup on somebody else's servers on the 'net. Neither is attractive.
I like this comparison. Librem 5 is like the iPhone in 2007. Or the Apple II in the 80s. An important beginning.
Right now I have spinner HDDs that I rotate offsite. Ultimately I want a cloud storage solution for backup but am still in the research phase. Synology is about to launch an encrypted service which would be appealing but it all depends on the security/privacy.
C2 Storage
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That’s standard practice for any data.
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This scandal has made me reevaluate what I use my devices for and how I use them. I’m actually kinda glad it happened because now I have a clear idea what I value in my devices and my behavior using them.
I’ll definitely stay in the ecosystem, but any files I feel that governments would find “questionable” (for example, my gunsmithing guides) I’ll be careful to not keep in easily surveillable places. Likewise anything else that I would like to keep private.
I know now that I value my Apple devices for convenience and work. For the time being I’ll still trust that they’re not scanning my financial information any more than the institutions that I use.
On that last point, I know that scanning on my devices is probably the least effective method of detecting wrongthink on my part. My ISP, the sites I get my files, and where I chat with friends are far bigger threat vectors than Apple. And it’s not like I make my anti-government views a secret. So looking at it that way it doesn’t affect me.
I’ll definitely stay in the ecosystem, but any files I feel that governments would find “questionable” (for example, my gunsmithing guides) I’ll be careful to not keep in easily surveillable places. Likewise anything else that I would like to keep private.
I know now that I value my Apple devices for convenience and work. For the time being I’ll still trust that they’re not scanning my financial information any more than the institutions that I use.
On that last point, I know that scanning on my devices is probably the least effective method of detecting wrongthink on my part. My ISP, the sites I get my files, and where I chat with friends are far bigger threat vectors than Apple. And it’s not like I make my anti-government views a secret. So looking at it that way it doesn’t affect me.
Just because it's my only option doesn't mean I have to think it's good or that I have to like it.
Not a single new addition to Windows 11 benefits me (My graphics card doesn't support DirectStorage, I don't have an HDR monitor).
I didn't think it ever mattered to Microsoft how I used Windows either. I know it doesn't matter to them. As long as I'm using it. That doesn't mean I have enjoy using it. It doesn't mean I have to accept Windows as good.
Windows is a dumpster fire in my opinion and it's been a dumpster fire since as long as I've been using it (Windows 98). Because it's my only option to play a few games with mouse and keyboard isn't going to change that.
It gets down to who do you trust most with your data. A few years down the line is Synology going to be in business? What happens if they cease operations due to low subscriber count?Right now I have spinner HDDs that I rotate offsite. Ultimately I want a cloud storage solution for backup but am still in the research phase. Synology is about to launch an encrypted service which would be appealing but it all depends on the security/privacy.
C2 Storage
Back up your Synology NAS data to the cloud with Hyper Backup or sync requested data between C2 Storage and branch offices using Hybrid Share.
My windows boxes are under control and I have a manual backup and a website that I upload to. If anything were to change I would have to figure out how to manage the 10 years and thousands of photos in icloud. Plus all of the good stuff in messages.That’s standard practice for any data.
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View the flexible pricing plans Synology C2 Storage has to offer.IDrive Cloud Backup
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For speed its also backed up locally.
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Keep us posted on what you find!Right now I have spinner HDDs that I rotate offsite. Ultimately I want a cloud storage solution for backup but am still in the research phase. Synology is about to launch an encrypted service which would be appealing but it all depends on the security/privacy.
C2 Storage
Back up your Synology NAS data to the cloud with Hyper Backup or sync requested data between C2 Storage and branch offices using Hybrid Share.
It doesn't affect you, but what about others? Journalists, whistleblowers, others with non-standard views?
I switched to Linux to support privacy for those people. I support Tor for the same reasons.
Agreed, feel the same way about Linux today. I don't think it's good and I don't like it. It has a long way to go. But it's my only option and I believe it has to succeed long term. So I'm dropping my non-open devices and plunging in.
Oh, I didn’t mean to come across like I support this change. I certainly don’t and think it’s a horrible breach of trust, especially coming from a company that marketed itself on privacy. And I agree the system can and will be abused.
My post was on my personal use case. I like the concept of open software myself and would contribute to it if I could (the small amount of programming knowledge I have wouldn’t be any use) but aside from tinkering Linux doesn’t suit my needs.
I admire that sentiment and wish I was in a situation to do the same.
NextCloud looks promising, but after several days of trying to get the plugin in TrueNas to install (at all), I'm going to have to take another look at it.
My girlfriend is pretty gutted about this situation. She was about to switch from her Samsung to iPhone when I told her I was going to jump ship away from Apple. When I explained why she was totally confused on why Apple would try this.
She was born in a former Soviet Union state and totally understands what spying is all about.
I'm glad that she didn't actually switch though. Better to have called it out now rather than later.
Nothing else is as polished as Apple's ecosystem but now it's like a rotten garden. Everything is happy smiley on the outside but inside it's going to be a seething mess.
I guess I prefer my messes on the outside, at least it can be seen and addressed rather than swept under an Apple rug.
Still trying to decide on which phone to move to, Galaxy Fold 3 looks nice enough but the whole camera locking thing smacks of Apple hubris, Pixel 6 Pro is due soon. Still interested in the F(x)tec Pro1, I used to rock a Danger Sidekick 20 years ago. New Surface announcements later this month too, hopefully MS can finally deliver decent software/hardware for their phones.
My biggest problem will be weaning myself off of Applepay/Handoff/Continuity/Airdrop/iMessage/watch. I don't think any of the competition is anywhere near as polished or integrated for those features. I have 3 Macs and 2 iPads to replace along with an iPhone.
Thanks Tim Apple.
She was born in a former Soviet Union state and totally understands what spying is all about.
I'm glad that she didn't actually switch though. Better to have called it out now rather than later.
Nothing else is as polished as Apple's ecosystem but now it's like a rotten garden. Everything is happy smiley on the outside but inside it's going to be a seething mess.
I guess I prefer my messes on the outside, at least it can be seen and addressed rather than swept under an Apple rug.
Still trying to decide on which phone to move to, Galaxy Fold 3 looks nice enough but the whole camera locking thing smacks of Apple hubris, Pixel 6 Pro is due soon. Still interested in the F(x)tec Pro1, I used to rock a Danger Sidekick 20 years ago. New Surface announcements later this month too, hopefully MS can finally deliver decent software/hardware for their phones.
My biggest problem will be weaning myself off of Applepay/Handoff/Continuity/Airdrop/iMessage/watch. I don't think any of the competition is anywhere near as polished or integrated for those features. I have 3 Macs and 2 iPads to replace along with an iPhone.
Thanks Tim Apple.
And another piece of the puzzle lands:
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Australia Traded Away Too Much Liberty
How long can a democracy maintain emergency restrictions and still call itself a free country?
Never used them but I like their blog. Good drive reliability stats that no one else seems to publish.
Very timely:
A Step by Step Guide to How to Wipe a Mac Clean
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I have friends and family that use it and love it. I've been thinking of trying it out myself because of the ability to use a private key for encryption so Backblaze are incapable of reading my data.
I’ve been using them for off site backup of my Mac for about a year now.Never used them but I like their blog. Good drive reliability stats that no one else seems to publish.
Very timely:
A Step by Step Guide to How to Wipe a Mac Clean
If you’re looking to get rid of all the data on a Mac hard drive or SSD, you need to wipe it fully. Learn some safe and effective methods for wiping data.
Looked at it a while back and it was too restrictive and too limited for my needs.
Single device, no syncing, and was a mess for targeted backup (specific items).
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