Windows 11

[sracer]

yeah, that's correct And the system is basically just as stable as 10, but it has some weird glitches and quirks. Mainly everything taskbar feels off and buggy

and yeah, I use Vantage and I'm up to date.

It sounds like that regular crashing of explorer is fairly common...

Windows 11 File Explorer Keeps Crashing [Fix]

There are plenty of options that could help if Windows 11 File Explorer keeps crashing, and clearing the cache is just one of them.

windowsreport.com

...they've got some suggestions there that might help.


On a side note, it's nice to see that my go-to app WUB still works in preventing Windows from updating. And MS Office 2007 Professional still works better than ever.

 

[alectrona6400]

Went back to 10. Feels much smoother even on a 3700X with an RTX 3070. Windows 11 isn't ready AT ALL, even if it does appear to be stable. The issues will start arising as they add more features. Also within the development of 10, MS laid off a bunch of testers. Not sure how that is going now...

 

[diamond.g]

Went back to 10. Feels much smoother even on a 3700X with an RTX 3070. Windows 11 isn't ready AT ALL, even if it does appear to be stable. The issues will start arising as they add more features. Also within the development of 10, MS laid off a bunch of testers. Not sure how that is going now...

I am probably going to wait until the 22H1 "feature update" before I install Windows 11.

 

[nickdalzell1]

After the UI of 11 grew on me I can't use 10 anymore. 10 is flat, ugly and the taskbar somehow became white on the work PC. Gosh I hate that thing. I.E. the only browser (boss knows how to blacklist anything else! she hates Edge, can't understand Chrome, and the CCTV system requires IE).

The machine hard-freezes often. The other boss, a 20-something that's pretty much running things today, has her Mac because the work PC is such hot garbage. The blasted thing has 12GB RAM but as slow as it is you'd never know it! The reason it's so slow is 1) Internet Explorer, and 2) it's got a lot of junk software pretending to be useful. MalwareBytes Free, which consumes 90-100% CPU constantly, and always wanting updates, and CCleaner, which, if I'm not mistaken, was owned by the infamous Cheetah Mobile.

 

[LeeW]

I have been getting internet dropouts on my PC the last few days. I think I have isolated it to W11. I have my PC on during the day but mostly use my MBA when working. It seems to be when the PC sleeps and I wake it. On occasion the internet connection (wired) does not seem to connect, it even causes the router to do something as my Echo stops playing music intermittently other devices such as iPhone and iPad lose connection.

Very odd but definitely only happens when waking the PC, not a coincidence. And I have not changed anything on the PC.

Turns out this was a known issue but fixed in the patch I hadn't yet installed. All good now.

 

[GrumpyCoder]

After the UI of 11 grew on me I can't use 10 anymore. 10 is flat, ugly and the taskbar somehow became white on the work PC. Gosh I hate that thing.

I put 11 on my ThinkPad X1CG9 and even if I don't really use Windows on it (dual boot with Pop_OS), it's the same here. Seeing 11 and then going back to 10 is painful.

 

[nickdalzell1]

I save the Linux HDD for the many games that run better on it. I keep that distro offline because that way Steam can't update or force games to update (those games run fine offline, anyway, and I haven't figured out how to countermend updates the way I can in Windows) There's only one game that requires Windows so far, and that's Flight Simulator 2020. I think it depending on Xbox services keeps it from launching on Linux. It does launch, but it hard-freezes the entire system just before the main menu displays.

I'm wondering how the boss (owner, not her daughter that's running stuff now) will react once that PC inevitably gets its Windows 11 update. I.E. won't even exist and I'm not finding anything online about how UNV (company who installed the CCTV system) will adapt to it. It won't run on Edge, Safari or Firefox, claiming a 'plugin is missing'. I'm guessing it's Adobe Flash Player, which apparantly still works in I.E. for the H.264 video streams.

 

[grmlin]

Installed the latest update on the release channel, taskbar still doesn't work on multiple monitors.

lol

this is so sad

 

[MBAir2010]

Another question, my installation of 11 is fresh and clean, but my explorer still crashes and restarts multiple times a day.

Does anyone else experience this issue?

yes, everyday
and while moving download files

 

[nickdalzell1]

I never use the file explorer since all I use Windows for is one particular game on Steam, or browsing sites that hate Linux (any site relying on CloudFlare or use ReCaptcha)

 

[maflynn]

I am probably going to wait until the 22H1 "feature update" before I install Windows 11.

I saw some info that MS has a large update in the Insider program that has a large amount of bug fixes. I would guess that we'll be seeing things improve.

As I mentioned my experience (I'm not sure if I'm in the minority or majority) has largely been problem free. I have windows 11 running on my Razer and desktop computer. Granted I don't push these machines terribly hard, office apps, games, some Creative Cloud stuff, Powershell development, etc.

 

[nickdalzell1]

My system just got two feature updates (I chose to install them myself) but other than them adding in a video calling Meetings app, and saturating and skeuomorphing some of their icons a bit more, not much else has changed. Nothing I'd notice at least. I wish that watermark in the lower right would go away since my copy is activated according to settings.

 

[mi7chy]

Reason not to use Windows 11 until Microsoft reverses anti-consumer changes that's a repeat of FTC violation.

https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/microsoft-edge-protocol-competition.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp.

 

[Feyl]

I downgraded my Windows machine a few days ago back to Windows 10 because not only the 11 is slower but I hated most of the changes in the UI. Microsoft for sure is doubling down on making the interface more and more optimized for touch even when you use mouse and keyboard only. Everything is so big and fuzzy. I don't like how the font looks like and hate the new Start menu where you have to click on a button to reveal all programs. I also hate the revorked context menus with illogical arrangements and god I hate that there's now an icon to click on if you want to delete something. Steve was right.. Microsoft has no taste and is clueless about what they're doing. A year from now I'm sure we'll see some major changes like always. Windows is a circus.

 

[nickdalzell1]

I kinda like 11 more. It's got some skeuo in it, and the start menu isn't cluttered with tiles or 'ads' posing as apps like Windows 10 is. Windows 10 can't decide if it's Windows 8 or Windows 7. It's half and half, and the taskbar is white for some odd reason while some icons are reverse color like the file explorer app.

Sometimes, if you're using a tablet type dock laptop it randomly goes into Windows 8 mode for no reason. It's like MS hasn't gotten the memo that 8 was crap.

 

[c0ppo]

I hate just one thing - taskbar. Why can't I make it smaller like I could before?
Sure, there is a hack to do it. But then other problems show their ugly face...

Besides that, I really like the W11. UI is nicer than in W10, it feels smoother, and besides that I had no issues at all. Ok, W11 is not my primary OS, I use it from time to time. But never the less, I find it to be OK and with a better UI.

 

[Romain_H]

I hate just one thing - taskbar. Why can't I make it smaller like I could before?
Sure, there is a hack to do it. But then other problems show their ugly face...

That, plus why can‘t I place it on a side? And: no option to not group icons any more

 

[grmlin]

The taskbar wasn't finished for the release... My guess: they rushed the release for the new Surface devices. I can be wrong of course

 

[maflynn]

That, plus why can‘t I place it on a side? And: no option to not group icons any more

Check out StartAllBack and Start11

I believe you can move the taskbar on the side with that app. I saw it reviewed/mentioned on a YT and checked it myself. I've used Stardock's Startxx app in the past, I may take a look at this at some point as well

 

[MBAir2010]

yesterday is was interneting and the Dell XPS shut down suddenly.
no warning and the battery was being used for a little over an hour.
windows11 was nice enough to ask i needed things restored after reboot or plugging in
and that damned hit or miss taskbar is annoying, with those icons.
Gordon Mah- personally did not recommend the update while Mark Hatchman said go for it!

what i need to do is what i did so many times with Leopard to Mojave
a clean install.
is this easy?
everything is saved that i really need even the 1300 out of focus photos i took this year.

 

[I7guy]

Reason not to use Windows 11 until Microsoft reverses anti-consumer changes that's a repeat of FTC violation.

https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/microsoft-edge-protocol-competition.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp.

Do you believe MS is really that stupid to get itself into hot water again?

 

[sracer]

Do you believe MS is really that stupid to get itself into hot water again?

It's not a matter of being "stupid", but that the tech and legal climates are far different than they were when those rulings were first made. In addition, "getting into hot water" means something different for multinational corporations than it does for private individuals.

Microsoft has clearly made changes in Win 11 (in relation to Win 10) to make it more difficult to set the default web browser to something other than Edge. They must think that setting up a private protocol ("microsoft-edge://") is enough of a separation that they can skate by with that... and they just might.

As for being a reason to not use Windows 11, it isn't on my top-10 list, but I can see it as a "camel's nose under the tent" move.

 

[maflynn]

So let me ask this - what issues arise if I disable TPM on my computer after the fact, i.e., windows 11 is already on the laptop?

The reason? Well, I've been trying a Linux challenge as seen in this forum and I want to keep at it, but at this point, I want my cake and eat it too, i.e., run windows 11 on one SSD and pop_os on another. Unforuntely, pop_os doesn't have a boot loader that TPM likes (but oddly enough ubuntu does). I know one option is to use ubuntu and that's on the table, but first let me ask this

 

[MBAir2010]

what is the difference between Unbuntu and POP?
(beside UI and what the intent of linux is for like graphics, just gaming etc)
without going into detail, Sunday is your day off!

 

[grmlin]

So let me ask this - what issues arise if I disable TPM on my computer after the fact, i.e., windows 11 is already on the laptop?

The reason? Well, I've been trying a Linux challenge as seen in this forum and I want to keep at it, but at this point, I want my cake and eat it too, i.e., run windows 11 on one SSD and pop_os on another. Unforuntely, pop_os doesn't have a boot loader that TPM likes (but oddly enough ubuntu does). I know one option is to use ubuntu and that's on the table, but first let me ask this

I know it's annoying but I wouldn't risk my main system (Windows is your main system, correct?) and mess around with TPM.
I once had to enable or disable Secure Boot every time I switched between Linux and Windows...