Yes, but you dont run a big business. I work in IT Support and we provide support for many companies and some of them are buying security updates for Windows 7. Including airports etc…
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Apple typically supports the last three versions of Mac OS. But that's a different model and a different customer base. Not sure why it is relevant.
I don't run a business but I am inimitably involved in supporting desktops and I was active in the move from windows 7 to windows 10 in my company. I also know the cost they were looking at and it was clear they were doing everything in their power to avoid throwing that money away. We have several thousand PCs and the amount would be absurd
Then I'm not sure why and how Android is relevant in iOS discussions.
The same reason why it's relevant when people here are bashing Android because of the security.
Yes, I get that, but there are still many businesses using Windows 7 and the fact that someone's using Windows 7 doesn't mean it's not secure.
I am not responsible of what businesses use. I just know that they've decided to pay for the security updates, so we wouldn't be surprised.
Actually, it does. Just look at how ransomware attacks in 2020 and 2021 has increased - that's due to out of date/unpatched systems.
Yes, I understand you, but businesses still receive security updates. The very same security updates that Windows 10 does + some additional.
The fact that the person here said his company is using W7 doesn't mean it's not secure it's not patched up and secure.
Really? Do you have proof? Just because you know one person who says their PC is patched doesn't make an industry wide trend
I work in IT Support / Service Desk Agent / Monitoring and the company I work for supports hundreds of businesses, so I have seen many businesses still using Windows 7.
I can't provide you the "proof", because I've signed confidentiality obligations. We also support airports and many of the airports are still using Windows 7 embedded as well and it still receives security updates.
So you have no proof - gotcha. Where I have many links below that show the high risk of running windows 7. I stand by my assessment that its high risk
U.S. Gov Warning on Water Supply Hack: Get Rid of Windows 7
PCs still running Windows 7 will soon be significantly more at risk of ransomware
Win 7 Sunset Increases Ransomware Risk: 5 Tips to Secure PC Data
Windows 7 end of life: Security risks and what you should do next
As Microsoft shuts down Windows 7, security risks loom
Windows 7 ‘Crazy High’ Security Risk As Crypto Exploit Found In Audio Files
FBI Warns of Serious Risks Posed by Using Windows 7
I can't give you proof, because if I upload any of the documents and screenshots etc to the internet I will end up in prison.
None of the articles you posted are relevant to businesses.
And I also feel like you're not reading what I write or my English is that bad you can't understand me.
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...-in-almost-50-percent-of-surveyed-businesses/
Many businesses are still in the middle of replacing their computers with new computers that are running Windows 7 though. I know that because I deactivate and delete older computers from SCCM daily.
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide
There are more Windows 7 users than Mac users.
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Android and iOS are much more comparable as consumer products than Windows and Mac are as business products.
lol.....I'm not following you down this rabbit hole of irrelevance any longer.
I'm not disputing that. What I am saying is that windows 7 is a higher risk, pure and simple. as the other member posted about not going down the rabbit hole, I'm done. I've provided source material to show that windows 7 does in fact increase your risk, you've not shown any proof that by and large most/many/some enterprises who are still on windows 7 are paying for extended support.
At this point its beating a dead horse and such I'm done with the whole discussion on windows 7 as I did fall into the rabbit hole.
Of course it is. I'm not denying that, but I do say that there are many businesses paying to Microsoft for security updates and there are a lot of businesses still using Windows 7 on some of their computers. Not everyone has upgraded yet for whatever reason, which is weird considering they earn millions in profit. I am just telling you what I see at my workplace and in Nordic countries + the airports. That's it. I am just telling you about my experiences and what I see.
I wonder how many people will still be using Windows 10 once Windows 11 comes around. I know Windows 10 is 6 years old. Though it gone through a bit of changes since 2015. And I got to say will I be upgrading to Windows 11 when it comes out? Of course I will. Would I ever tell anyone to not go with Windows 10 if they don't want Windows 11? No I wouldn't. Why? Cause I feel in my opinion that Windows 10 as of right now is very stable. Is there going to be much im going to miss about windows 10? Likely not. Though I do hope on Windows 11 that I can have the classic look of Windows 10 start menu that just me. 
With that being said. Lets hope for a good lunch of Windows 11.
With that being said. Lets hope for a good lunch of Windows 11. 
In retrospect I would say Windows 10 was the early access version of 11 maybe?I wonder how many people will still be using Windows 10 once Windows 11 comes around. I know Windows 10 is 6 years old. Though it gone through a bit of changes since 2015. And I got to say will I be upgrading to Windows 11 when it comes out? Of course I will. Would I ever tell anyone to not go with Windows 10 if they don't want Windows 11? No I wouldn't. Why? Cause I feel in my opinion that Windows 10 as of right now is very stable. Is there going to be much im going to miss about windows 10? Likely not. Though I do hope on Windows 11 that I can have the classic look of Windows 10 start menu that just me.
Let's see if 11 will be the same story with a new coat of paint or different this time. Right now it feels like an old apartment you find 6 layers of old wallpapers if you want to
People on Reddit think those goodies were removed...
Some people are idiots for not right-clicking on the start button already. How have they not caught on?
If you want to run enterprise software or video games, Windows is your only choice right now. Linux/Wine still isn't a perfect solution right now.
How can you be so sure that many companies are actually paying for extended support instead of just updating to Windows 10 for free?Are you aware that businesses can buy extended support for Windows 7?
A large majority of Windows 7 computers are not on Microsoft's "extended security updates" program.
You can't prove that the 15.52% of people still using Windows 7 are actually on Microsoft's "extended security updates" program though.
Many companies are even using Windows 7 without any antivirus protection.
How are you going to prove that?
Why is Windows 10 market share rapidly increasing after Windows 7 ended support then? I cannot imagine any companies buying computers that run a vulnerable version of Windows instead of just going with Windows 10.
You cannot be serious, right? Surely you're joking at this point?
Yes, Android is most popular in Europe. We already knew that.
Yeah, agreed. What has this thread even turned into?
No, read the title of this thread. We were talking about Windows 11.
Yet you still can't prove it?
Maflynn has already backed up his claims with evidence. ?♂️
You want to eat lunch while celebrating the launch of Windows 11?I wonder how many people will still be using Windows 10 once Windows 11 comes around. I know Windows 10 is 6 years old. Though it gone through a bit of changes since 2015. And I got to say will I be upgrading to Windows 11 when it comes out? Of course I will. Would I ever tell anyone to not go with Windows 10 if they don't want Windows 11? No I wouldn't. Why? Cause I feel in my opinion that Windows 10 as of right now is very stable. Is there going to be much im going to miss about windows 10? Likely not. Though I do hope on Windows 11 that I can have the classic look of Windows 10 start menu that just me.
Jokes aside, I assume the more than 1,000,000,000 Windows 10 users will automatically be updated to Windows 11 when the time comes.
Also, you can currently bring back the classic look of the start menu if you really want to.
In its current state, Windows 11 is more like a construction site.In retrospect I would say Windows 10 was the early access version of 11 maybe?
Let's see if 11 will be the same story with a new coat of paint or different this time. Right now it feels like an old apartment you find 6 layers of old wallpapers if you want to
It will not have classic look like windows 10I wonder how many people will still be using Windows 10 once Windows 11 comes around. I know Windows 10 is 6 years old. Though it gone through a bit of changes since 2015. And I got to say will I be upgrading to Windows 11 when it comes out? Of course I will. Would I ever tell anyone to not go with Windows 10 if they don't want Windows 11? No I wouldn't. Why? Cause I feel in my opinion that Windows 10 as of right now is very stable. Is there going to be much im going to miss about windows 10? Likely not. Though I do hope on Windows 11 that I can have the classic look of Windows 10 start menu that just me.
You want it to have a classic menu list like this below it would require a registry hack.
Microsoft is going with different look now than menu list view used before.
Mainstream support ended on January 13, 2015.
Extended support ended on January 14, 2020.
Windows 7 is eligible for the Extended Security Updates service. This service is available via OEMs, in yearly installments. Security updates are available for the operating system through at most January 10, 2023
Only Professional and Enterprise volume licensededitions, through October 10, 2023 for Windows Embedded Standard 7, and through October 14, 2024 for Windows Embedded POSReady 7.
So Microsoft will not support it for other 5 or 8 years.