Today I exported my running exercise to tcx and gpx and imported it to a site that calculated the distance. It turned out that I was running a longer distance than my watch showed. I know about (re-)calibrating the watch, but the description tells me to start a Walking or Running exercise in the default Apple Watch Work-out app. Would re-calibration also work when I use Workoutdoors or do I really have to use the default Work-out app for the re-calibration?
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apps WorkOutDoors: New workout features
- Thread starter cfc
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I recommend using the default Workout app because Apple are not clear about whether calibration works with 3rd party apps, even if they use Apple's workout system like WOD does.
As you say they specifically mention using their app, so that is the only one where you can guarantee that it will calibrate the watch.
I am running with WOD and Apple Watch 7 GPS since about three weeks and all the time before, I used a calibrated Stryd.
First thing I noticed: the distances are spot on compared between runs on similar routes. Very cool.
Second: Distances are measured about 1% shorter than they were on a calibrated Stryd (and measured via various map tools).
Seems to be a thing with AW7 that distances are shorter than expected.
Did not do a run with the Apple workout app since I have the AW7 so calibration seems to be ok with 3rd party apps.
First thing I noticed: the distances are spot on compared between runs on similar routes. Very cool.
Second: Distances are measured about 1% shorter than they were on a calibrated Stryd (and measured via various map tools).
Seems to be a thing with AW7 that distances are shorter than expected.
Did not do a run with the Apple workout app since I have the AW7 so calibration seems to be ok with 3rd party apps.
Thanks for a great app! Here is a suggestion for a future feature:
Live tracking: The possibility to send GPS location and metrics in a live fashion to some online domain/service for (outdoor) activities either via Cellular or Wi-Fi (via Phone). This could be premium feature for a fee covering costs of online hosting. One could generate a unique temporary link to be shared with people at the start of an activity or a fixed link always displaying a user's current activity. Another choice is to send the data live to the WorkOutDoors phone app to other users (which one has granted access by some invite procedure), making use of the already developed interface for the displayed map and metrics. It would be a nice feature both from a competition perspective and from a safety perspective.
Live tracking: The possibility to send GPS location and metrics in a live fashion to some online domain/service for (outdoor) activities either via Cellular or Wi-Fi (via Phone). This could be premium feature for a fee covering costs of online hosting. One could generate a unique temporary link to be shared with people at the start of an activity or a fixed link always displaying a user's current activity. Another choice is to send the data live to the WorkOutDoors phone app to other users (which one has granted access by some invite procedure), making use of the already developed interface for the displayed map and metrics. It would be a nice feature both from a competition perspective and from a safety perspective.
Find My has zero metrics and do neither display GPS coordinates (afaIk) nor any GPS history. In addition, the maps provided by WoD are better in terrain, especially with the new topo maps.
Live Tracking is requested quite often but is low on my to-do list for a couple of reasons. Firstly the privacy aspect - I know that many WOD users appreciate the fact the app doesn't have any server infrastructure with user accounts etc. Adding a feature that explicitly published their location would worry them, even if it was optional.
The server aspect brings me on to the second reason, which is that I code apps and know nothing about servers. I could pay someone to build such a system but a) I can't afford it; and b) it would be a lot of hassle managing such a set-up and my time is better spent elsewhere at the moment. As you say I could get around the money aspect by charging a fee, but just having a subscription or in-app purchase would deter a lot of potential users.
Sorry about that. If the app ever becomes successful then I may look into it again after I have added more popular features. However I would still be worried about the privacy aspect deterring some users.
The server aspect brings me on to the second reason, which is that I code apps and know nothing about servers. I could pay someone to build such a system but a) I can't afford it; and b) it would be a lot of hassle managing such a set-up and my time is better spent elsewhere at the moment. As you say I could get around the money aspect by charging a fee, but just having a subscription or in-app purchase would deter a lot of potential users.
Sorry about that. If the app ever becomes successful then I may look into it again after I have added more popular features. However I would still be worried about the privacy aspect deterring some users.
Has anyone used a Polar H10 heart rate strap with your Apple Watch. I want to get a heart rate strap that can connect bluetooth to the Apple Watch to record my heart rate, but also to make sure I can see it the heart rate metrics on the watch during the run. I have heard that some of the straps do not show data during a run only after.
I’m using the Polar H9 together with Stryd in the beta of WOD and that works great ?. Can see all HR metrics while running with WOD, but in the beta, so the next version. I guess the H10 should work also than ?.
Cool! That's good to know. Maybe I will get that one instead, it is a little cheaper.
I asked this exact same question a few weeks back.
Short version, @cfc has one too.
From what I recall the difference between the H9 and the H10 is that the H10 can do more than one bluetooth connection (so it can be connected to your phone and watch), and the H10 has a nicer strap and internal storage (for swimming?).
I've been using mine for a few weeks and it seems to work well.
Sorry for the delay in replying. Yes the H10 is supported and is my preferred heart rate strap out of several that I bought for testing (mainly because it feels the most comfortable to me!).
As I mentioned in the link that @sam3k posted there is a bug in the current version of WOD whereby the H10 (and some other straps) confuse the WOD iPhone app when used for indoor workouts. There is no problem outdoors or with the data stored in Apple's Health system, but you cannot see a graph or export HR data from in the WOD iPhone app.
This is fixed in the next version, which allows you to connect HR sensors (and other sensors) directly from the app. For sensors such as the H10 this also means that WOD can display heart rate variability in the app, which is not possible when connecting via watchOS.
As I mentioned in the link that @sam3k posted there is a bug in the current version of WOD whereby the H10 (and some other straps) confuse the WOD iPhone app when used for indoor workouts. There is no problem outdoors or with the data stored in Apple's Health system, but you cannot see a graph or export HR data from in the WOD iPhone app.
This is fixed in the next version, which allows you to connect HR sensors (and other sensors) directly from the app. For sensors such as the H10 this also means that WOD can display heart rate variability in the app, which is not possible when connecting via watchOS.
Two questions about the Stryd support in the next version.
I have two Stryds, one at home, one at the office so I do not forget to carry them from A to B (and forgetting them
).
As the Stryd app has only support for one Stryd to be paired, I always have to unpair and pair my Stryds when using them. Does WOD support more than one paired Stryd?
Second: is calibration factor possible per Stryd or general? Would prefer on a per Stryd base as deviation is possible. Most users do not need calibration, I do (about 2% which is a lot).
I have two Stryds, one at home, one at the office so I do not forget to carry them from A to B (and forgetting them
).As the Stryd app has only support for one Stryd to be paired, I always have to unpair and pair my Stryds when using them. Does WOD support more than one paired Stryd?
Second: is calibration factor possible per Stryd or general? Would prefer on a per Stryd base as deviation is possible. Most users do not need calibration, I do (about 2% which is a lot).
Yes, H10 is an excellent heart rate strap and works like a charm. I have two of them.
But: before you buy, have a look at the Polar Verity Sense. After buying it (and its predecessor OH1) I am not using my H10s anymore. Really a solid device with very good precision (lots better than the heart rate sensor of the AW) and very comfortable to wear.
I haven't tested the app with two Stryd footpads. With most other sensors then I would say there is no problem because the serial number is usually included in the name, making each sensor unique. However for some reason Stryd do not do that, which may mean issues when you have two paired, but I do not know for sure. In theory the app would work around it but, as I say, I have never tested that.Two questions about the Stryd support in the next version.
I have two Stryds, one at home, one at the office so I do not forget to carry them from A to B (and forgetting them
As the Stryd app has only support for one Stryd to be paired, I always have to unpair and pair my Stryds when using them. Does WOD support more than one paired Stryd?
Second: is calibration factor possible per Stryd or general? Would prefer on a per Stryd base as deviation is possible. Most users do not need calibration, I do (about 2% which is a lot).
You can apply a calibration factor to the pace/distance reported by Stryd. It is on a per sensor basis, so different sensors can have different factors.
This is a slightly odd question... I've been downloading the original files from Strava (that have been uploaded from WoD), the TCX files all have spaces before the XML declaration which is causing the XML parser I'm using to choke on them (you can't have whitespace before the XML declaration).
Are those spaces coming from WoD or Strava?
Hope that makes sense.
Are those spaces coming from WoD or Strava?
Hope that makes sense.
No-one else has ever mentioned that. The app does indent the lines for readability but the top XML tag does not have any whitespace preceding it.
You could try exporting directly from WOD and see if you have the same problem.
I just tried with an AirDrop'd TCX file from WOD and that was fine, no spaces at the beginning of the file.
So it's either Strava, or possibly something in your upload code. I only mention this on the of-chance that some bug crops up in the future that relates to it.
I'm going to a run tomorrow, and if I remember, I will manually upload the TCX file and see if the result is the same.
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
So it's either Strava, or possibly something in your upload code. I only mention this on the of-chance that some bug crops up in the future that relates to it.
I'm going to a run tomorrow, and if I remember, I will manually upload the TCX file and see if the result is the same.
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
The upload code just sends exactly the same TCX file format as the direct export, so it sounds like something Strava is doing.
No, but I will investigate it after this release.
Only apps written in Apple’s latest coding language (SwiftUI) can update the screen whilst it is inactive. Unfortunately WorkOutDoors was written long before SwiftUI first appeared so the app does not use it.
I am hoping that Apple will make it easier for apps to use the always on display at their developer conference in a few weeks, but if not then I will consider rewriting the display part of the app, which would be a lot of work.
Hi. I’m really looking forward to your next release with the Stryd integration. I’ve been using the Stryd Apple Watch app for runs and keen to move to WOD. One feature they have that’s helpful is the option to have a status screen before beginning a workout. This shows whether GPS is locked and connection to Stryd has been made. It then gives a large green box to start the workout. This feature is great for races. With 3-2-1 starting of a workout in WOD this can take some guessing to time right! Wondering if this optional feature could be considered for a future release? Thanks.