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Hi cfc, I am wondering if the Tennis activity will eventually gain some more features like the number and type of shots. Other than that, great app, use it everyday! Thanks.
Probably not any time soon. Sorry. I don't think anyone has ever asked for that before and the type of shot sounds quite difficult to determine. Maybe one day.

Glad you like the app!
 
hi @cfc right now traveling in a new city and the WOD map is great, beats having to pull out my phone. Is there a way to navigate to start somehow? right now I'm following the breadcrumbs back but would rather like to see an arrow when I glance down just to give me a direction to run back. Thanks!
 
hi @cfc right now traveling in a new city and the WOD map is great, beats having to pull out my phone. Is there a way to navigate to start somehow? right now I'm following the breadcrumbs back but would rather like to see an arrow when I glance down just to give me a direction to run back. Thanks!
The app doesn't do any route calculation but the green compass in the bottom left of the map points in the direction of the start (as the crow flies). Tap that compass to see the distance to the start, again as the crow flies.
 
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Just wanted to mention I had quite a lot of this nonsense recently and looking at Apple's record of the run it's all up and down constantly in these areas.. just not what I normally see...

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Serious dropouts from my chest strap so I did a bit of digging and thought it would be good to reset my Polar HR10 which you do by taking the battery out and holding 2 fingers on the contacts for 10 seconds. I then loaded up Polar Beat and disabled the 2xBluetooth Channels, Ant+ and possibly something else that I can't remember just now, just leaving the HRM showing as visible (it seems you have to disable all that crap each time you pop the battery btw).
Now, back to the usual smooth recording.
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Incidentally the HRM is paired direct to the APP not the Watch. I don't dig having to make sure it's connected via the Settings app before pressing the Action button on my Ultra as it somewhat defeats the cool work that @cfc did in getting the Action button mappable.
 
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Just wanted to mention I had quite a lot of this nonsense recently and looking at Apple's record of the run it's all up and down constantly in these areas.. just not what I normally see...

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Serious dropouts from my chest strap so I did a bit of digging and thought it would be good to reset my Polar HR10 which you do by taking the battery out and holding 2 fingers on the contacts for 10 seconds. I then loaded up Polar Beat and disabled the 2xBluetooth Channels, Ant+ and possibly something else that I can't remember just now, just leaving the HRM showing as visible (it seems you have to disable all that crap each time you pop the battery btw).
Now, back to the usual smooth recording.View attachment 2206688
Incidentally the HRM is paired direct to the APP not the Watch. I don't dig having to make sure it's connected via the Settings app before pressing the Action button on my Ultra as it somewhat defeats the cool work that @cfc did in getting the Action button mappable.
Musings about this whilst running (because I changed a few possible variable).

1. Did the reset fix it?
2. Did Disabling Ant+ help if it was devoting either power or time this..?
3. Did disabling the 2nd channel help. I don't know the implementation but if you got sequence numbers and they alternated between channels and you only saw 1,3,5 etc. on WOD would WOD have problems?

I'll be more scientific if it happs again and try to eliminate one thing at a time.

What I didn't do was change battery on the HRM which was showing in Polar Beat about Half (it doesn't show things with granularity). I had a pack of new ones ready to go but I did this first (I wondered about if, because Polar it Ant+ focussed, is 50% good enough for reliable BTLE).
 
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Love the app and love the involvement of the developer here! I use the app for running/biking and love the customization.

Question though, for open water swimming, can I change the distance from miles to yards? I looked in settings and couldn't seem to find it. Most training programs (in US at least) run on yards not miles. So having to do the mental math of 0.45 miles = how many yards on the fly is a real pain!

If anyone has solved this please let me know!

Thanks
 
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Musings about this whilst running (because I changed a few possible variable).

1. Did the reset fix it?
2. Did Disabling Ant+ help if it was devoting either power or time this..?
3. Did disabling the 2nd channel help. I don't know the implementation but if you got sequence numbers and they alternated between channels and you only saw 1,3,5 etc. on WOD would WOD have problems?

I'll be more scientific if it happs again and try to eliminate one thing at a time.

What I didn't do was change battery on the HRM which was showing in Polar Beat about Half (it doesn't show things with granularity). I had a pack of new ones ready to go but I did this first (I wondered about if, because Polar it Ant+ focussed, is 50% good enough for reliable BTLE).
Generally the H10 is pretty reliable and I haven't heard of many problems. I usually alternate between the H10, the Wahoo Tickr X and the Garmin HRM Pro and all work well.

As I don't hear of any problems I can't say which of those solutions (if any) fixed it, so it would be good to try them separately if it happens again.

Changing the battery is always a good thing to try when there are connection problems, but that profile looks more like the sensor is reading the wrong values rather than struggling to send them. This makes me think that it may be more of a hardware/sensor issue than a comms issue. Was the strap maybe too loose or were you particularly sweaty so that it slid around and struggled to get a lock?
 
Love the app and love the involvement of the developer here! I use the app for running/biking and love the customization.

Question though, for open water swimming, can I change the distance from miles to yards? I looked in settings and couldn't seem to find it. Most training programs (in US at least) run on yards not miles. So having to do the mental math of 0.45 miles = how many yards on the fly is a real pain!

If anyone has solved this please let me know!

Thanks
Sorry, the app only shows miles / km for longer distances and metres for shorter distances. Yards are on my to-do list but not yet high on the list because they are relatively rarely requested.
 
Was the strap maybe too loose or were you particularly sweaty so that it slid around and struggled to get a lock?
I wouldn't say so really, I tightened the strap a while ago after some extra weight loss and it had been good for a while and it seems to just stick and not move at all if I'm sweaty - that strap on the H10 is a great design.
 
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Sorry you are having problems with the map freezing. This has been reported about 20 times in the 7 weeks since watchOS 9.4 was released. Initially once a week but more frequently recently as the freezes mount up. Apart from one exception, all of the users were running 9.4 and all but 4 of them had a series 7 watch like yourself. The other 4 had a series 6.

When people have the problem then they tend to get it repeatedly. The vast majority of users are not having the problem so I am trying to spot a pattern between the users that are having issues.

The exception was one user who had the problem on a series 8 running watchOS 9.3.1. He was zooming in and out on the map, which is very resource intensive, so my guess is that watchOS now deals with the watch being stressed by killing off the 3D rendering system that WOD uses to draw the map. It may be that this is a good thing because in the past it would sometimes kill the whole app if the watch was really stressed.

So my guess is that watchOS 9.4 thinks that series 6 and series 7 watches are stressed when they maybe are not. Or maybe something (possibly watchOS itself) is going rogue on series 6 and 7 watches, which is why the rendering system is being killed.

I have been ignoring the problem in the hope that watchOS 9.5 (apparently due imminently) will fix it. One person who reported the problem has been using the 9.5 beta and said that it hadn't happened since he upgraded. However he hadn't had it long, so it is too early to tell.

Also, I don't know how the rewrite will affect the issue. SwiftUI may use less resources and fix the problem, or it may use more and make it worse. I have been testing on a series 7 and an Ultra and haven't had the issue with either.

My current plan is if watchOS 9.5 doesn't fix the problem then I will offer the SwiftUI beta to those users to see if that helps. If neither help then I will need to contact Apple to try to fix it. Unfortunately I imagine they will be super busy at this time of year (WWDC).

If you do get the problem then I recommend rebooting the watch so that is less stressed. Also please email the wkt file to info@workoutdoors.net (thanks for the file @tcarlisle). To do this tap the Export button 3 times quickly.
I’m on the Ultra and have not experienced this. If it is the current OS update over stressing the watch, then is it worth checking the background processes that are active. If you find and deactivate a few that you do not need then it may just reduce the load enough to prevent issues.
 
I’m on the Ultra and have not experienced this. If it is the current OS update over stressing the watch, then is it worth checking the background processes that are active. If you find and deactivate a few that you do not need then it may just reduce the load enough to prevent issues.
For some reason it only affects the series 6 and 7, and only on watchOS 9.4 / 9.5. It seems to happen mainly when people are using more resources. For example many of the users are displaying a route, or running multiple apps during a workout.

So my theory is that the "stressed" limit is lower for the S6/S7 for some reason, or those watches are generally more stressed (maybe watchOS goes a bit rogue). As a result watchOS is killing off the map renderer system to free up resources.

If they had lowered the limit generally in watchOS 9.4 then I could understand it not happening on newer watches like the SE2, 8 and Ultra, but it is strange that it never happens on the series 1 to 5 or the SE1. This is why I assume it is a bug in watchOS rather than a deliberate change.

I have contacted Apple, so hopefully they will be able to help. However it is probably the busiest time of year for them, so I would be surprised if they have the time to help. I feel a bit guilt about bothering them now but it is a serious problem for S6/S7 owners who need the map.
 
I really like this app! I have just started using it, but the level of detail, customisation options and offline maps are amazing. I have just one question regarding syncs with Strava. When I upload a workout to Strava, I noticed that there is no reference to the Apple Watch I have been using to record the work out. When uploading a workout from the native Apple Workout app, it does show up on my strava feed. It is not a major concern, but I think it is rather nifty that the workout on my Strava feed shows which device I have been using to record the activity. Is there a possibility to add this to the WOD activity sync with Strava as well?
 

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I really like this app! I have just started using it, but the level of detail, customisation options and offline maps are amazing. I have just one question regarding syncs with Strava. When I upload a workout to Strava, I noticed that there is no reference to the Apple Watch I have been using to record the work out. When uploading a workout from the native Apple Workout app, it does show up on my strava feed. It is not a major concern, but I think it is rather nifty that the workout on my Strava feed shows which device I have been using to record the activity. Is there a possibility to add this to the WOD activity sync with Strava as well?
I have been trying for years to get Strava to recognise the hardware but never succeeded. There is a "Manufacturer" field in the FIT file definition but Apple doesn't seem to be one of the possible values. I tend to revisit this every year, so I will probably take another look when things next calm down. But that won't be for a while.

Sorry about that, but glad you like the app!
 
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Is there a pacer function in WOD? I like the pacer from the Apple Sportsapp.
 

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Is there a pacer function in WOD? I like the pacer from the Apple Sportsapp.
You can set a target pace in the pace settings. Then if you configure a screen to use the Target profile then it will show your progress vs the target in terms of time and distance. If the screen shows a map then that will display a yellow dot representing someone moving at the target pace.
 
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Unplanned intervals are simply a way of manually splitting a workout into sections. There is no concept of repeat loops or even interval types (fast, slow etc). You just invoke the New Interval command and it starts a new interval (and ends the previous one).
I have set the double tap shortcut for 'New Interval' and triple tap for 'Exit Repeat'. Does the Exit Repeat end the interval?
 
Oh ok, thanks. What is a repeat loop?

For example, if I do 800m interval and exit the repeat, and try 800m interval again in 90s, what will be the result of that?
 
I mean to say I want to do 800m interval and jog for 90s, will the new interval record the end of 800m interval and then record that as an interval? Sorry for the amateur questions.
 
I mean to say I want to do 800m interval and jog for 90s, will the new interval record the end of 800m interval and then record that as an interval? Sorry for the amateur questions.
If you use either the new interval or the exit repeat command when you are say 500m through an 800m interval then it will record a 500m interval and then start the 90 second interval.

However say you were in a more complex schedule with a 5 minute warm up and then a repeat loop of 800m followed by 90s ten times, and then ending with a 5 minute cool down. If you started a new interval at 500m in say the 6th repeat, then you would move onto the 90s interval as before. However if you used an exit repeat command then it would move onto the cool down.

I hope that helps.
 
If you use either the new interval or the exit repeat command when you are say 500m through an 800m interval then it will record a 500m interval and then start the 90 second interval.

However say you were in a more complex schedule with a 5 minute warm up and then a repeat loop of 800m followed by 90s ten times, and then ending with a 5 minute cool down. If you started a new interval at 500m in say the 6th repeat, then you would move onto the 90s interval as before. However if you used an exit repeat command then it would move onto the cool down.

I hope that helps.
I am still stumbling my way through. This was my workout last night. I tried the screen tap to start interval and exit repeat after each interval. I didn’t get the result I was expecting.
First Strava picture is my workout and the second one is of the person I was training with. That person was able to manage to capture the intervals by starting and stopping intervals on demand. And that is something that I had in mind that I could do with WOD.

Thoughts or ideas?
 

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I am still stumbling my way through. This was my workout last night. I tried the screen tap to start interval and exit repeat after each interval. I didn’t get the result I was expecting.
First Strava picture is my workout and the second one is of the person I was training with. That person was able to manage to capture the intervals by starting and stopping intervals on demand. And that is something that I had in mind that I could do with WOD.

Thoughts or ideas?
It's hard for me to know what is happening but I recommend using the buttons for something crucial like intervals. Screen taps can be erratic because the watch needs to be raised or tapped in order to be active, and only then are the taps are registered.

For the Ultra the action button starts a new interval by default. For other watches you can configure pressing both side buttons simultaneously to do that.

Otherwise use taps but make sure that the screen is active before tapping.
 
Hi!

I have three more questions.

First of all, are you considering adding a separate workout type for trail running? Currently, I am using the running workout for both "normal" runs (i.e. on paved roads) as well as for trail running, however I am using substantially different screens for each workout type. Therefore, I currently have 9 running screens in total, which is too many for my liking.

Secondly, I am still a bit confused about the difference between cached maps and offline/downloaded maps. I noticed that, when browsing in "Map" mode, the areas I have scrolled through are somehow accessible offline (i.e. are in cache memory). Is there a difference between areas in cache mode or downloaded maps? I feel like downloaded maps are more "secure", especially when going to areas with limited/no daata signal, however this is just my gut feeling.

Finally, not really a question but I really like the app, keep up the good work!
 
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