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cubodado

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Widgets for the Smart Stack are another possibility if they are easy.
Please do this, if possible. With the elimination of the dock, I now have to open the list of all apps and scroll through dozens and dozens of options to get to yours. Just a smart stack widget to open the app is all that's needed to fix this.

Thanks!
Don’t know if a small circular widget at the bottom of Smart Stack is easier to implement than the big one, I want to replace standard workout app with Workoutdoors!

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NME42

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Reported it in the Apple Training App thread, but maybe worth to know for the WOD-users here also.
Since watchOS 10 no system sounds are played when a bluetooth headset is connected. First thought this is a thing only of the Apple Training App, but my run today with WOD also had no lap alert sounds.
Not speaking of voice, did not test this. I mean the simple "ding" sounds and such. Taptic alerts are there.
 
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mgmooij

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Reported it in the Apple Training App thread, but maybe worth to know for the WOD-users here also.
Since watchOS 10 no system sounds are played when a bluetooth headset is connected. First thought this is a thing only of the Apple Training App, but my run today with WOD also had no lap alert sounds.
Not speaking of voice, did not test this. I mean the simple "ding" sounds and such. Taptic alerts are there.
Noticed the same…
Edit: I didn’t had the spoken alerts.
 
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SisyphusMD

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Is it possible to assign volume up and volume down as shortcuts? I’d like to be able to easily adjust the volume of my music and audiobooks, but using the controls on my AirPods themselves is tough while running, so I was thinking to assign that to crown rotation up/down, but didn’t see volume as an option. Sorry if this is already available and I just missed it.
 

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Is it possible to assign volume up and volume down as shortcuts? I’d like to be able to easily adjust the volume of my music and audiobooks, but using the controls on my AirPods themselves is tough while running, so I was thinking to assign that to crown rotation up/down, but didn’t see volume as an option. Sorry if this is already available and I just missed it.
Strangely I don't think anyone has ever asked for that. In theory it is possible because the app has a volume setting, so it could just adjust that even if it cannot adjust the system volume. I will add it to my to-do list but it will be very low down the list because it hasn't been requested before. Sorry.
 
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SisyphusMD

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Strangely I don't think anyone has ever asked for that. In theory it is possible because the app has a volume setting, so it could just adjust that even if it cannot adjust the system volume. I will add it to my to-do list but it will be very low down the list because it hasn't been requested before. Sorry.
Thank you!
 
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BenDXB

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Is it possible to assign volume up and volume down as shortcuts? I’d like to be able to easily adjust the volume of my music and audiobooks, but using the controls on my AirPods themselves is tough while running, so I was thinking to assign that to crown rotation up/down, but didn’t see volume as an option. Sorry if this is already available and I just missed it.
You could ask Siri as well to adjust volume while running…
 
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Chillpascal

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Today I noticed that I wasn’t able to send new interval schedules or routes to the Apple Watch. Restarted both devices, but that didn’t work. Apart from that the app works as perfect as ever.

iPhone 12 Mini
iOS 16.0
Apple Watch Ultra 1
WatchOS 9.3.1
WOD 5.2 (6) (beta)

Anyone else experiencing the same issue? Or should I update to iOS 17 and WatchOS10 and try again?
 

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Today I noticed that I wasn’t able to send new interval schedules or routes to the Apple Watch. Restarted both devices, but that didn’t work. Apart from that the app works as perfect as ever.

iPhone 12 Mini
iOS 16.0
Apple Watch Ultra 1
WatchOS 9.3.1
WOD 5.2 (6) (beta)

Anyone else experiencing the same issue? Or should I update to iOS 17 and WatchOS10 and try again?
Firstly check that Bluetooth is enabled on both the watch and the iPhone.

As rebooting hasn’t worked then you may have another app that started sending a large data file and which is still transferring, in which case WorkOutDoors needs to wait. Sometimes this can happen without you knowing about it. For example the stock Podcast app on the iPhone mirrors all its podcasts to the watch even if you do not use the Podcast app on the watch. Unfortunately it is impossible to know what apps are sending data to the watch.

It is also worth checking how much storage is available on the watch. Apple only allow 25% of the total storage for "media", so your watch could be full without you realising it. To check this go to Apple's Watch app on the iPhone and tap General and then Storage.

If that is ok, and rebooting doesn’t work, and you have waited several hours then the next thing to try is to uninstall the watch app (not the iPhone app); reboot both devices; and then reinstall the watch app.

If that doesn’t work then the next thing to try is to un-pair the watch and re-pair it.

In the past this was the most common complaint about the app, but it happens less often these days, so I think Apple have improved things. However when it does go wrong these days then unpairing/re-pairing is usually necessary if rebooting hasn’t worked.

I hope that helps. The app uses the standard iOS/watchOS mechanism to transfer data and that sometimes gets confused or is busy transferring data for another app.
 

MarcellusChan

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Nov 15, 2022
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Hello,

Thanks for developing a great app!

I’m hoping to see clarifications on a new behavior I noticed over the weekend.

In the past, my workout on WOD will be written onto iOS Fitness app. The last workout tracked on WOD and written to iOS Fitness was 22 Sep, Friday.

On 24 Sep, Sunday, I used WOD again and this workout is not reflected on iOS Fitness; although move/exercise rings do take in the workout time/ calories burnt.

There have been a few updates recently, WOD/ iOS/ WatchOS, so I’m not sure what the root cause is.

Does anybody face the same situation?

Thanks.
 

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Hello,

Thanks for developing a great app!

I’m hoping to see clarifications on a new behavior I noticed over the weekend.

In the past, my workout on WOD will be written onto iOS Fitness app. The last workout tracked on WOD and written to iOS Fitness was 22 Sep, Friday.

On 24 Sep, Sunday, I used WOD again and this workout is not reflected on iOS Fitness; although move/exercise rings do take in the workout time/ calories burnt.

There have been a few updates recently, WOD/ iOS/ WatchOS, so I’m not sure what the root cause is.

Does anybody face the same situation?

Thanks.
Please check that you have given the app permission to read and write all the health data. To check this go to the Settings app on the iPhone and select Privacy / Health / WorkOutDoors. Make sure that every health setting is enabled (you may need to scroll down to turn them all on). Note that if you have installed on a new iPhone then you may need to give permission again.

If they are all enabled then you may be experiencing a rare bug with iOS/watchOS where the watch seems to lose the permission. To fix this switch all of the permissions off, then reboot both the iPhone and the watch, and then switch them all on again. This procedure nudges iOS into sending them to the watch again.

Hopefully that will fix the problem for future workouts.
 

MarcellusChan

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Please check that you have given the app permission to read and write all the health data. To check this go to the Settings app on the iPhone and select Privacy / Health / WorkOutDoors. Make sure that every health setting is enabled (you may need to scroll down to turn them all on). Note that if you have installed on a new iPhone then you may need to give permission again.

If they are all enabled then you may be experiencing a rare bug with iOS/watchOS where the watch seems to lose the permission. To fix this switch all of the permissions off, then reboot both the iPhone and the watch, and then switch them all on again. This procedure nudges iOS into sending them to the watch again.

Hopefully that will fix the problem for future workouts.
Thanks for the prompt response.

All the permissions within Privacy were still enabled.

Nonetheless, I followed your advice to disable all, reboot both phone and watch, and re-enabled all again.

Will monitor for next workout.
 
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Chillpascal

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Dec 8, 2022
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Please check that you have given the app permission to read and write all the health data. To check this go to the Settings app on the iPhone and select Privacy / Health / WorkOutDoors. Make sure that every health setting is enabled (you may need to scroll down to turn them all on). Note that if you have installed on a new iPhone then you may need to give permission again.

If they are all enabled then you may be experiencing a rare bug with iOS/watchOS where the watch seems to lose the permission. To fix this switch all of the permissions off, then reboot both the iPhone and the watch, and then switch them all on again. This procedure nudges iOS into sending them to the watch again.

Hopefully that will fix the problem for future workouts.
I did use the app for a workout a couple of times. No issues sending the information to the iPhone after completing the workout. The only issue was sending information like an interval schedule or route from the iPhone to the watch. Anyways, seems like updating to WatchOS10 solved the problem. No re-install or re-pairing the Watch needed.

Once again, many thanks for this app. Tipped as well, because I hope you keep up doing a great job!
 
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LeTraKeuR

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Jan 15, 2023
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Hello,
Can you help me with the auto pause? If I let the Apple's auto pause manage it, I haven't the real positive up. I ride with my bike somewhere you can' t ride in the mountain. So, I have to carry or push my bike, I walk slower than ride and the auto pause stay on. What setting of sensibility I must set ?
Thanks
 

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Can you help me with the auto pause? If I let the Apple's auto pause manage it, I haven't the real positive up. I ride with my bike somewhere you can' t ride in the mountain. So, I have to carry or push my bike, I walk slower than ride and the auto pause stay on. What setting of sensibility I must set ?
Thanks
The auto-pause algorithm (Apple's and the app's) is designed to detect complete pauses rather than pausing when you are below a certain speed, so it will not pause if you are walking.
 
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cubodado

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Reported it in the Apple Training App thread, but maybe worth to know for the WOD-users here also.
Since watchOS 10 no system sounds are played when a bluetooth headset is connected. First thought this is a thing only of the Apple Training App, but my run today with WOD also had no lap alert sounds.
Not speaking of voice, did not test this. I mean the simple "ding" sounds and such. Taptic alerts are there.
Don’t know if it helps to solve: I was looking at the settings in the watch app on the phone for the workout app and noticed a Vocal Feedback flag close to the bottom unselected.
 
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NME42

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Don’t know if it helps to solve: I was looking at the settings in the watch app on the phone for the workout app and noticed a Vocal Feedback flag close to the bottom unselected.
Thanks, but this is the voice feedback, right? I personally find such things rather disturbing when I am listening to a podcast on a normal plain vanilla run and this voice tells me every kilometer that I ran a kilometer. A short "ding" is enough distraction for me. ;)
 
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ChrisJohn23

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That is very strange. What do mean by pressing "hop"? And when you say that it even comes back to the data screen is that after the alert screen and before the summary?

Please could you send me the wkt file for that workout and I will take a look to see what you might be doing differently. To do this tap the Export button 3 times quickly and email to info@workoutdoors.net
on my last release, no bug 😅 I sent an email with a race that had the problem
 
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LeTraKeuR

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The auto-pause algorithm (Apple's and the app's) is designed to detect complete pauses rather than pausing when you are below a certain speed, so it will not pause if you are walking.
Ok thanks, so it doesn' t work like Garmin with the speed.
The auto-pause algorithm (Apple's and the app's) is designed to detect complete pauses rather than pausing when you are below a certain speed, so it will not pause if you are walking.
As you can see, there is a lot of pause when I walk. So I think, I have no choice to set pause manualy, right ?

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edgar.epi

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Hello,

First of all congratulations for your incredible work! I love the app!

I have noticed that voice alerts sounds kinda metallic in apple watch with UK accent (using Iphone they are OK). US accent it's also OK. I am using watch OS 10 and 5.1.0 version.

Are you planning to implement training peaks workout import?

Thanks! :)
 
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cfc

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Ok thanks, so it doesn' t work like Garmin with the speed.

As you can see, there is a lot of pause when I walk. So I think, I have no choice to set pause manualy, right ?

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Yes, in that situation manual pause is best. I may improve the auto-pause to work for specific speeds in the future, but it is rarely requested and would probably be fiddly to implement.
 
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cfc

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Hello,

First of all congratulations for your incredible work! I love the app!

I have noticed that voice alerts sounds kinda metallic in apple watch with UK accent (using Iphone they are OK). US accent it's also OK. I am using watch OS 10 and 5.1.0 version.

Are you planning to implement training peaks workout import?

Thanks! :)
The robotic voice has been an issue with watchOS since version 9. Usually switching to a different accent and back again fixes it.

I tried a workaround in version 5 (handling language codes with numbers) but it sounds like that didn't work.

Note that v5.2.7 is the latest version, so you may want to update to that.

I am unsure about including the ability to import schedules from training peaks in the next version, but I probably won't. If I did then it would not handle nested repeat loops. I asked here a while back and the consensus was that would be a deal breaker.

However since then Apple have enabled schedule importing for their Workout app, but with the same "no nested repeats" restriction. So I am tempted to add the ability to import schedules contained in FIT files, and also to export them to Apple's Health system for use in their app. This may be useful for some people and at least the nested repeat limitation would be consistent throughout.

My plan at the moment is to hold fire and see what TrainingPeaks do first before I decide. By which time there is a good chance that I will be deep into the navigation improvements, so it would be too late. In the long term I will definitely add it though.
 

23MONTERO

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Is there any way to remove the shading from "Back" "GPS Accuracy" and "Time"?
Or is it a bug?
Thank you!
 

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