Thanks, this helped a lot. Configured action button for training, i.e. WOD.
Now I can start precision Start with action button and pause with action button+ side button. Then decativate water lock and end my workout.
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Now I can start precision Start with action button and pause with action button+ side button. Then decativate water lock and end my workout.
I posted what follows as a separate thread last week. One person commented that I should have posted it here as there are more users here familiar with workouts in general and with the Workoutdoors app:
What follows is a screenshot of Workoutdoors on one of the leisurely "workouts" where the pause/resume anomaly occurred. This ride started at the southern end, went north for breakfast and then back south. The anomaly happened at the point of the arrow on the outbound leg.
What follows is a screenshot of Workoutdoors on one of the leisurely "workouts" where the pause/resume anomaly occurred. This ride started at the southern end, went north for breakfast and then back south. The anomaly happened at the point of the arrow on the outbound leg.
Please send the wkt file for that workout to info@workoutdoors.net and I will take a look. To do this tap the Export button 3 times quickly.
Thanks. That file shows that you manually paused the workout at about the point you mentioned by using the long touch menu. However this was part of a series of things that you did which included tapping once to show a metric; tapping twice to show a full screen map; changing the map type to Thunderforest; and then repeatedly trying to pause/resume.
So I suspect that you are accidentally touching the screen at times (maybe your sleeve). Firstly you just tapped it once; then twice; and then touched it for a second to call up the long touch menu. Once this menu was displayed you tapped Settings then Map and then Thunderforest (which are all in the top right of the screen). You then repeatedly tapped the pause/resume button, which is in the bottom left of the screen.
Another possibility is that the watch is generating "ghost" taps, which was a known issue with watchOS, and can be fixed by rebooting the watch. However your watchOS is up to date so it seems unlikely, but it is always worth rebooting.
Apple has a solution to ghost touch issue on Apple Watch models
Apple has expanded its investigation into the "ghost touch" issue on the Apple Watch and is now acknowledging more models are affected by the bug.
appleinsider.com
If rebooting doesn't help and you can't avoid accidental taps then there are a couple of possible solutions within the app. Either you can lock the screen by tapping it 4 times quickly (do the same to unlock) or you can use the watchOS full water lock. To use the water lock either go to Settings / Commands / Shortcuts and change the 4 taps gesture from Screen Lock to Water Lock. Or go to Settings / Start Options and enable the “Water Lock Enabled on Start” option.
I hope that helps.
I'm sure this must be the case.
I thought I had solved the "sleeve tap" problem by enabling water lock on start:
It always seems that water lock is still on when I finish cycling as I have to turn it off with a long Digital Crown press in order to stop the workout. Is water lock not the best way to prevent sleeve taps?
Am I doing something else wrong?
It sounds like you are experiencing the ghost taps then. The app is logging that you have tapped the screen, which should be impossible in the watchOS water lock mode.
Hopefully rebooting will help.
Thanks for that. I'd never heard of ghost taps until this. Now I've read all about it. It seems that WatchOS 10.4 fixed it for most people as I didn't find much after that. Oddly, it seems that my ghost taps started soon after installing 11.4. An old bug resurfaced?
I wanted to make sure that I was right about water lock being always enabled while cycling. On this morning's ride I had one spurious "pause". I stopped and took a photo of the watch. Sure enough, it is enabled.
After reading about ghost taps it seems that most sufferers experienced them all the time. For me, it's only when running one app and then only during one activity. Very odd.
That looks like an Auto-Pause, which happens when you stop if you have that enabled.
If that doesn't explain it then the first thing to check is the log. To do this go to the GPS tab and change GPS to Log. Then maybe filter by the word Pause. That should show what you did to cause the manual pause.
The usual culprit (which wasn't the case in the log file you sent me) is that you accidentally pressed both side buttons at the same time. By default this will pause / resume, just as it does with Apple's app. If this is the case then the solution is to disable that gesture in Settings / Commands / Shortcuts.
If that doesn't explain it then please send me the wkt file for that workout.
HI @cfc,
I believe you're still super busy refining navigation, but navigation isn't everything. Personally, I don't even have a map on my screen and only use the watch for structured workouts. So, here's my recurring question: is there any chance in the near future for importing workouts from a .fit file? Or at least expanding to include 3-4 additional zones with the ability to assign pace or power to specific zones, like we currently have with "easy," "fast," "then," etc.? Thanks in advance and best regards,
Robert
I believe you're still super busy refining navigation, but navigation isn't everything. Personally, I don't even have a map on my screen and only use the watch for structured workouts. So, here's my recurring question: is there any chance in the near future for importing workouts from a .fit file? Or at least expanding to include 3-4 additional zones with the ability to assign pace or power to specific zones, like we currently have with "easy," "fast," "then," etc.? Thanks in advance and best regards,
Robert
At the moment I am completely focussed on navigation. The ability to import schedules in FIT files is high on my to-do list after that. Although judging from the rumours about iOS 19, I suspect that Apple may announce a lot of changes in a few weeks that require my attention first. I hope not though.
I recently deleted WOD so it would reset to defaults and what I did before deleting the app is I backed it up using iExplorer. The free version is good enough for this task. iExplorer lets you browse the file system for each app and drag and drop files/folders between the phone and your computer. I was able to backup all my settings, routes, profiles and workouts before deleting the app. When I reloaded the app I was then able to restore just the parts I wanted to keep. You simply install iExplorer, then plug your phone in via USB port and it will show up in iExplorer. Then just browse to Apps/WorkOutDoors and you will see all the files.
Here is a link to the app I am talking about:
iExplorer · iPhone Music, Messages & File Transfer for Mac & PC
iExplorer lets you easily transfer music, playlists, text messages, files and more from any iPhone, iPod, or iPad to a Mac or Windows computer and iTunes.
I've used it on and off with success for 15 years or so.
Something else that is cool is the Settings folder in WorkOutDoors keeps a copy of previous settings each time you make a change. So if you screw something up, you could go into this folder and pull out an old version and then put it back in the root as Config.stg (I'd force close WOD on the phone before doing anything with this tool).
Here is a screenshot of the folder structure:
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If you restore the new phone from a full backup of the old phone (not via iCloud) then you will keep everything on the phone app. Otherwise you can copy all the files from the old phone to a computer and from there to a new phone by using Apple's File Sharing mechanism:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201301 (Windows)
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210598 (MacOS)
The watch app will lose all its data when you change phone (although I don't know why). However you can send it back from the phone app. This can be done by going to the Settings tab and tapping File Management and then "Send Yesterday’s Watch Settings", "Send Screens to Watch” and “Send Interval Schedules to Watch”. If you want then you can also send routes or workouts individually. They can’t all be sent at once because they are too large.
That means, that I must set all settings new after reinstalling my iPhone. 😳
I‘m shocked.
I have no app that looses his data after reinstalling.
To be honest, I don't even know if I want to set all the countless settings again.
I am very disappointed.
Why is there no backup function?
I‘m shocked.
I have no app that looses his data after reinstalling.
To be honest, I don't even know if I want to set all the countless settings again.
I am very disappointed.
Why is there no backup function?
If you have a MacBook Air then you can connect the phone to that by a cable and then copy all the files and then copy them back later.
iCloud support is about mid-way up my to-do list. I guess it is not that popular because so few people use it.
As previously suggested I force rebooted the watch. My experience is that this is, at best, a temporary fix for some errors as doing so doesn't get at the root of the problem.
This morning, the phantom pause/resume returned with three pause/resume pairs all in a row at about the 1K mark or at just under 4 minutes in to the workout. Glancing at the watch I saw that water lock was enabled and the GPS was at four bars. I had the sleeve on my left arm rolled up a bit to prevent sleeve slap. (Don't tell my dermatologist; he would be appalled at the skin exposure.)
Looking at the log, as suggested, didn't help my pea brain much. Since the workout started at about 6:36 AM, the phantom pauses would have happened at about 7:00 AM. But I don't see anything in the log to reflect that. The auto-pauses prior to 6:39 are legit as I had to make a few stops.
The "app inactive" messages in the log are a mystery to me.
I should note that even though the ghost taps only happen with the WorkOutDoors app, I'm sure that they do not reflect a problem with the app. The app can only react to data from the watch. It seems the watch is generating incorrect data.
Thanks to the developer for taking the time to help me figure this out.
I sent this: 250504063553_13_34678_6405_812_101_0_36.wkt
Like you I can't see any indication of a pause at that time. The timestamps show both time and distance increasing regularly so it look like you are moving.
What makes you think that there was a pause there? Did you feel a tap, hear a message or see a screen saying paused? I am wondering if you are feeling a haptic from something else and assuming that it is a pause in the app. If the app had paused (either auto or manual) then it would be in the log.
I'm hearing a message: "pause, resume, pause, resume, pause, resume"
Then I glance down at the watch to make sure it's not actually paused, that the water lock icon is there and that my sleeve is not slapping the watch.
Don't spend any more time on this. It's nothing but an apparently harmless annoyance. Well, harmless except for the fact that my inability to figure it out is a bit frustrating.
Thanks again for you fine piece of work.
If you are restoring a full backup from iCloud, WOD will not lose your settings. You made it sound like you were resetting and not restoring a backup. In that case, you would need to do your own manual backup of WOD using a cable. If you need to do a manual backup, get a USB-C to lightening cable or a USB-C to USB-A adapter and then follow the suggestions you were provided.
BTW, most apps would need to be backed up manually like this if you reset your phone without restoring your iCloud backup.
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