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normanfox

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Here is another quote "....Overall, the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus remain the best phones on the market for video capture. Strange issues with Snapdragon 820 video encode blocks mean that all Snapdragon 820 devices are just barely passable for video capture...."

another half-baked feature from android, which still counts as 1000th features.
 

macgeek88

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Just hop over to the iPhone and iOS 10 forums to see a bunch of non-apologists report lag issues like this.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/7-plus-choppy-laggy-in-certain-apps.2005577/

Calling me an apologist. That's rich coming from the biggest Samsung fandroid there is who is so anti-Apple I have no idea why they are even on MR.

I did say "me personally", you know, and my opinion and experience counts every bit as much as yours and theirs.

Even in that thread people are saying they aren't having any problems.
 
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I7guy

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Gotta be in it to win it
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jamesrick80

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The note 7 is the best phone I have experienced in my life...will be sad to see it go......gonna try to enjoy it for a couple more weeks until the lg v20 releases
 
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spinedoc77

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It's not lag free but most reviewers consider the iPhone to be the least laggy smartphone. I've played with Samsung's newest (Note 7) and there is a bit of animation lag and other things.

Me personally I've never had any lag or hiccups on my iPhones, and that to me is what counts most. But I think most unbiased people would agree that Samsung phones on average have more lag than the iPhone. I know I'm not alone in that. Flossy Carter (a YT reviewer) who still says the Note 7 is the best phone right now even admitted in his iPhone review that the iPhone has the least lag and that people used to iPhones would have a problem with it going to a Samsung.

I agree, the iphone is "smoother" than the Note 7. If you turn down the Note 7 animation duration to .5x it's "snappier" than the iphone, which IMO uses the illusion of a longer animation time to make it seem faster. With the animation duration down like that the Note 7 "seems" much faster than the iphone, once again I say seems because it's just the feel of using them, but nothing scientific.
 

Radon87000

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android fans claim that Note 7 is the best phone with the superior spec. from anantech review, iphone 7 plus beats Note 7 on almost every performance categories up to 50% or more.

It's a known fact that Anandtech are a bunch of biased Apple fanboys.The only reviewers I trust are YouTube and Ars Technica
 
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normanfox

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It's a known fact that Anandtech are a bunch of biased Apple fanboys.The only reviewers I trust are YouTube and Ars Technica

yep I agree. there was a youtube video a couple weeks ago that showed iphone 6s (one year old) beat S7 in multiple app launch.
 

Radon87000

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YouTube...where anyone can put anything?

I only follow the trusted channels.They are more reliable then Anandtech

For instance,the Anandtech review always tries to justify the iPhone display and refrains from comparing it directly to the Galaxy.Thats not a reliable review
 
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Gathomblipoob

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It's a known fact that Anandtech are a bunch of biased Apple fanboys.The only reviewers I trust are YouTube and Ars Technica

They don't sound too biased to me:

Even now, with the iPhone 7 and Note7 available my experiences with the HTC 10 lead me to believe that it’s well worth buying still if you’re looking for a high-end Android device that can be used with one hand.

I find that most people find articles unfair and biased that don't agree with their particular points of view. Human nature.
 

apolloa

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I agree, the iphone is "smoother" than the Note 7. If you turn down the Note 7 animation duration to .5x it's "snappier" than the iphone, which IMO uses the illusion of a longer animation time to make it seem faster. With the animation duration down like that the Note 7 "seems" much faster than the iphone, once again I say seems because it's just the feel of using them, but nothing scientific.

Yeap, it's a buggy mess in some areas and has lagged in some places on all my iOS devices. It's pathetic I think because Apple have built all the hardware, they vet every single app, they personally themselves develop and build and release iOS, they are the richest company on the planet with endless resources, and yet every single major iOS update over the last few years is stuffed full of bugs on release.
And you pay a premium for that service.

iOS needs a serious overhaul at Apple quality control, but alas I fear they don't want to spend the money and are happy to use limited resources making mistakes and buggy software, more lucrative I guess.
 
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Bubble99

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"An apple a day will keep Samsung away" o_O

Well Apple phone may be not catching on fire people are reporting problems with some of the new iPhone 7's the yellow tint screen and some getting really hot just charging or just light use.

So I don't think you can say Samsung phones are bad and nothing but problems.
 
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Feenician

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Well Apple phone may be not catching on fire people are reporting problems with some of the new iPhone 7's the yellow tint screen and some getting really hot just charging or just light use.

So I don't think you can say Samsung phones are bad and nothing but problems.

"Some people are saying the screen may be yellow on iphones so this somehow qualitatively affects Samsung's devices because... reasons"

No, sorry, not following this line of reason. Can you clarify?
 
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Bubble99

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"Some people are saying the screen may be yellow on iphones so this somehow qualitatively affects Samsung's devices because... reasons"

No, sorry, not following this line of reason. Can you clarify?

The poster was alluding to fact Apple is all good and Samsung is set back.

And I was saying new iPhone is not all perfect. So his post was little not right what he was getting at.

Most likely Samsung fix the problem and bring out better phone next year.

Than it be fun to see next year of Samsung, Apple or some one else has some problem.
 

Radon87000

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Of course they are biased when they don't support your point of view.o_O
No.They completely contradict what other reviewers said.That part about battery life is hilarious.One of his charts shows the iPhone 7 having better battery life than the iPhone 6s plus and beating the nOTE 7.Now I agree that the iPhone 7 Plus ias at the absolute top in battery life but the iPhone 7?Coming close to the 7 Plus?Hahahaha


Lets start with the Display

Anandtech:The improved calibration makes it the most accurate smartphone display on the market.Whether or not it's the best mobile display is debatable, as Samsung provides serious competition with their AMOLED displays which benefit from perfect blacks. However, I think AMOLED's color shifting off angle puts it at a disadvantage, and Samsung is in the unfortunate situation of having to deal with Android not having any form of color management, which means that the wide color modes that their AMOLED displays have available are not truly useful. Apple's control over the hardware and software stack allows them to provide tools for creating wide color content without compromising the visual integrity of existing sRGB content, and that makes the display decidedly more future-proof.


Displaymate : "The Basic screen mode provides a very accurate Color and White Point calibration for the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut that is used to produce most current consumer content for digital cameras, TVs, the internet, and computers, including photos, videos, and movies. The measured Color Gamut of the Basic screen mode is a very accurate 104 percent of the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut, and the measured Absolute Color Accuracy is a very accurate 2.9 JNCD, which is very likely considerably better than your living room HD TV and also your laptop and computer monitor.Use the Basic screen mode for the best color and image accuracy for most current consumer content


The Galaxy Note7 matches or breaks new Smartphone display performance records for:


· Widest Color Gamuts for Current Content (DCI-P3 for Digital Cinema and Adobe RGB for Digital Photos)
· Highest Peak Brightness (1,048 nits)
· Highest Contrast Rating in Ambient Light (228)
· Highest Screen Resolution (2560x1440)
· Highest (infinite) Contrast Ratio
· Lowest Screen Reflectance (4.6 percent)
· Smallest Brightness Variation with Viewing Angle (21 percent)

Now let's go for the camera


Anandtech :Overall, the iPhone 7 camera is impressive and I would argue is holistically a better camera for still photos than the Galaxy S7 on the basis of more accurate color rendition, cleaner noise reduction, and lack of aggressive sharpening.The Galaxy S7 manages to deliver similar levels of detail to the iPhone 7, but it definitely oversaturates the red brick colors which might be appealing but really isn't accurate when you look at the RAW reference

"Other than this, the LG G5 and Galaxy S7 both have extremely oversaturated color rendition which just doesn't represent reality"
Overall, the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus remain the best phones on the market for video capture




Dxomark: Achieving a DxOMark Mobile Score of 88 points the new Samsung Galaxy S7 edge ranks in 1st place on the current DxOMark Mobile database. Featuring a 12Mp rear facing camera and 2160p@30fps video module, Samsung’s latest flagship Smartphone is a great proposition for mobile photography enthusiasts. The 26mm f/1.7 lens delivers very accurate and repeatable exposures, which helped the S7 edges achieve an outstanding Exposure & Contrast score of 90 during our tests. In fact, even in tricky high contrast scenes, it captures great exposures thanks to its built-in auto HDR feature, making it a great choice for landscape or backlit photography. The modest 12Mp resolution also ensures a good compromise between noise and detail on the S7 edge, which secures excellent DxOMark Mobile scores of 91 for Texture and 89 for Noise.

Also scoring 88 points in the Photo sub-category, the new Samsung S7 edge ranks in joint first place for still photos alongside the S6 Edge and Sony Z5. The main strengths of Samsung’s S7 edge photos are its excellent and repeatable exposures in all conditions, fast and accurate autofocus, and a very good compromise between noise and detail.

Samsung’s latest flagship smartphone also offers notable improvements to its video performance, achieving a Video sub-score of 88 points, compared to 84 points for the S6 edge. Again, videos capture nice exposures, with pleasant color and excellent video autofocus and stabilization performance, too.

For the iPhone 7, "Remarkable stabilization in video mode, together with fast and smooth autofocus, nice details and vivid color in bright light, produced a high Video sub-score of 85 points"



Now for the battery life



----Anandtech: Looking at our WiFi web browsing test, it’s genuinely ridiculous how well the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus perform in this test. The iPhone 7 Plus is definitely down on battery life compared to the Galaxy S7 Edge, but it’s within 5% despite using a battery that’s almost 20% smaller. The iPhone 7 is actually comparable in battery life to the iPhone 7 Plus, and is significantly above the Galaxy S7 with Exynos 8890

-----The Guardian: Battery life, however, is poor. Using it as my primary device with three hours of app usage and browsing, hundreds of emails and push notifications, a couple of photos, five hours of music over Bluetooth headphones and the odd game of Jetpack Joyride during my one hour and 20 minute train commute to and from work, it lasted an average of just over 14 hours between charges, meaning it didn’t survive past 9.30pm.

Rather than having better battery life in my testing, the iPhone 7 has worse battery life than the iPhone 6S when new. No single app caused significant battery drain, I do not have the Facebook app installed and Low Power Mode made no appreciable difference in my testing when enabled at 20%.


To get through 24 hours, you’ll be forced to have a power adapter close by, shove it in a battery pack or charge at your desk, which means you won’t be able listen to music at the same time via cabled headphones – more on that later.

To make matters worse, the iPhone 7 has the worst of all worlds: short battery life and tediously slow charging. Even using the 12W charger that came with the iPad Pro it took well over two hours to fully charge the iPhone 7.


------Which? published the results of a test into the iPhone 7's call time and internet usage time, and it found that the phone performed worse than the Samsung Galaxy S7, the LG G5, and the HTC 10.

smartphone-battery-life-2016.png





 
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touchstoned

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Lmao 3G call time is the reason to drop iPhone 7, really? Where do you live, Bangladesh? Honduras?


Every big city in the US has LTE, and the only reason the iPhone 7 has worse 3G browsing and call time is because they put a garbage INTEL XMM7360 which is inferior to Qualcomm CAT12 solutions, which I concede is Apple's fault. They should've told intel to take its trash and cash and go design a better modem instead of taking the bribe... but free chips are very appealing.


Seriously though, the posts in this thread are comedy gold. Samsung employees latest attempt to get poached by Raytheon for future incendiary bomb design is your 'best/most innovative device ever'?
 
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I7guy

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No.They completely contradict what other reviewers said.That part about battery life is hilarious.One of his charts shows the iPhone 7 having better battery life than the iPhone 6s plus and beating the nOTE 7.Now I agree that the iPhone 7 Plus ias at the absolute top in battery life but the iPhone 7?Coming close to the 7 Plus?Hahahaha


Lets start with the Display

Anandtech:The improved calibration makes it the most accurate smartphone display on the market.Whether or not it's the best mobile display is debatable, as Samsung provides serious competition with their AMOLED displays which benefit from perfect blacks. However, I think AMOLED's color shifting off angle puts it at a disadvantage, and Samsung is in the unfortunate situation of having to deal with Android not having any form of color management, which means that the wide color modes that their AMOLED displays have available are not truly useful. Apple's control over the hardware and software stack allows them to provide tools for creating wide color content without compromising the visual integrity of existing sRGB content, and that makes the display decidedly more future-proof.


Displaymate : "The Basic screen mode provides a very accurate Color and White Point calibration for the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut that is used to produce most current consumer content for digital cameras, TVs, the internet, and computers, including photos, videos, and movies. The measured Color Gamut of the Basic screen mode is a very accurate 104 percent of the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut, and the measured Absolute Color Accuracy is a very accurate 2.9 JNCD, which is very likely considerably better than your living room HD TV and also your laptop and computer monitor.Use the Basic screen mode for the best color and image accuracy for most current consumer content


The Galaxy Note7 matches or breaks new Smartphone display performance records for:


· Widest Color Gamuts for Current Content (DCI-P3 for Digital Cinema and Adobe RGB for Digital Photos)
· Highest Peak Brightness (1,048 nits)
· Highest Contrast Rating in Ambient Light (228)
· Highest Screen Resolution (2560x1440)
· Highest (infinite) Contrast Ratio
· Lowest Screen Reflectance (4.6 percent)
· Smallest Brightness Variation with Viewing Angle (21 percent)

Now let's go for the camera


Anandtech :Overall, the iPhone 7 camera is impressive and I would argue is holistically a better camera for still photos than the Galaxy S7 on the basis of more accurate color rendition, cleaner noise reduction, and lack of aggressive sharpening.The Galaxy S7 manages to deliver similar levels of detail to the iPhone 7, but it definitely oversaturates the red brick colors which might be appealing but really isn't accurate when you look at the RAW reference

"Other than this, the LG G5 and Galaxy S7 both have extremely oversaturated color rendition which just doesn't represent reality"
Overall, the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus remain the best phones on the market for video capture




Dxomark: Achieving a DxOMark Mobile Score of 88 points the new Samsung Galaxy S7 edge ranks in 1st place on the current DxOMark Mobile database. Featuring a 12Mp rear facing camera and 2160p@30fps video module, Samsung’s latest flagship Smartphone is a great proposition for mobile photography enthusiasts. The 26mm f/1.7 lens delivers very accurate and repeatable exposures, which helped the S7 edges achieve an outstanding Exposure & Contrast score of 90 during our tests. In fact, even in tricky high contrast scenes, it captures great exposures thanks to its built-in auto HDR feature, making it a great choice for landscape or backlit photography. The modest 12Mp resolution also ensures a good compromise between noise and detail on the S7 edge, which secures excellent DxOMark Mobile scores of 91 for Texture and 89 for Noise.

Also scoring 88 points in the Photo sub-category, the new Samsung S7 edge ranks in joint first place for still photos alongside the S6 Edge and Sony Z5. The main strengths of Samsung’s S7 edge photos are its excellent and repeatable exposures in all conditions, fast and accurate autofocus, and a very good compromise between noise and detail.

Samsung’s latest flagship smartphone also offers notable improvements to its video performance, achieving a Video sub-score of 88 points, compared to 84 points for the S6 edge. Again, videos capture nice exposures, with pleasant color and excellent video autofocus and stabilization performance, too.

For the iPhone 7, "Remarkable stabilization in video mode, together with fast and smooth autofocus, nice details and vivid color in bright light, produced a high Video sub-score of 85 points"



Now for the battery life



----Anandtech: Looking at our WiFi web browsing test, it’s genuinely ridiculous how well the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus perform in this test. The iPhone 7 Plus is definitely down on battery life compared to the Galaxy S7 Edge, but it’s within 5% despite using a battery that’s almost 20% smaller. The iPhone 7 is actually comparable in battery life to the iPhone 7 Plus, and is significantly above the Galaxy S7 with Exynos 8890

-----The Guardian: Battery life, however, is poor. Using it as my primary device with three hours of app usage and browsing, hundreds of emails and push notifications, a couple of photos, five hours of music over Bluetooth headphones and the odd game of Jetpack Joyride during my one hour and 20 minute train commute to and from work, it lasted an average of just over 14 hours between charges, meaning it didn’t survive past 9.30pm.

Rather than having better battery life in my testing, the iPhone 7 has worse battery life than the iPhone 6S when new. No single app caused significant battery drain, I do not have the Facebook app installed and Low Power Mode made no appreciable difference in my testing when enabled at 20%.


To get through 24 hours, you’ll be forced to have a power adapter close by, shove it in a battery pack or charge at your desk, which means you won’t be able listen to music at the same time via cabled headphones – more on that later.

To make matters worse, the iPhone 7 has the worst of all worlds: short battery life and tediously slow charging. Even using the 12W charger that came with the iPad Pro it took well over two hours to fully charge the iPhone 7.


------Which? published the results of a test into the iPhone 7's call time and internet usage time, and it found that the phone performed worse than the Samsung Galaxy S7, the LG G5, and the HTC 10.

smartphone-battery-life-2016.png




Ad I said there is some bias, but it's not coming from anandtech. I trust their reviews more than others. Oh, I agree about their assessment about the over saturated s7 camera.
 
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JackieInCo

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All the news outlets have said that Samsung announced the Note 7 is permanently scrapped. I read that they might focus on the Note 5 once again as well as the S7/Edge phones till the next big release.
 

macfacts

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yep I agree. there was a youtube video a couple weeks ago that showed iphone 6s (one year old) beat S7 in multiple app launch.

How often are people "racing" to launch apps? If that's what you do, then iPhone has an advantage.

I like to take random pictures. The current Samsung flagships have a hardware camera button (double tap home button). I can pull out my Note 7 and take a picture faster than any iPhone 7 user. iPhone users have to unlock, goto home screen, find camera app and launch it. No iPhone can even compare in this situation.
 
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Qbnkelt

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How often are people "racing" to launch apps? If that's what you do, then iPhone has an advantage.

I like to take random pictures. The current Samsung flagships have a hardware camera button (double tap home button). I can pull out my Note 7 and take a picture faster than any iPhone 7 user. iPhone users have to unlock, goto home screen, find camera app and launch it. No iPhone can even compare in this situation.

Well considering I'm never at the photography OK Corral this isn't an issue for me. The five seconds it takes me to unlock the device then get to the camera on my tray is enough for me.
 
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