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Has anyone else noticed True Tone failing to switch to a cooler setting as ambient lighting conditions change? It keeps happening to me and persists until a reboot and it's annoying as hell.
 
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Still dont know what to think.
Whats the problem? Software or hardware?
First it looked like a display driver problem, now as time fly, i think it is hardware defect.

How they got near-perfect white point with measurments, and screen is dull and yellow...
Someone with expert opinon?

Apple should issue a statement at least, its been a month today!

My personal (noob) thinking is that low light green issue is connected with yellow screen issue, in both cases, something with green color is making a problem. BUT....

Waiting for Apple...
 
Still dont know what to think.
Whats the problem? Software or hardware?
First it looked like a display driver problem, now as time fly, i think it is hardware defect.

How they got near-perfect white point with measurments, and screen is dull and yellow...
Someone with expert opinon?

Apple should issue a statement at least, its been a month today!

My personal (noob) thinking is that low light green issue is connected with yellow screen issue, in both cases, something with green color is making a problem. BUT....

Waiting for Apple...
Agree with this. Think the warm tone people are perceiving is in fact a very light green tint. Hopefully any update that fixes the green tint/raised blacks may fix it all. This also aligns with previous posts showing increased greens and decrease blue/red.

Hopefully...
 
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Question - Anyone that has the problem of yellow/green screen tint, do you also have the pure black flickering issue?
 
Question - Anyone that has the problem of yellow/green screen tint, do you also have the pure black flickering issue?
Yes, I have. Had it on both 12 mini devices. Couldn’t see it at first on my second one during daylight. But at night I could see it immediately again unfortunately. On some brightness levels it flickers, but on most brightness levels it goes from grey to pure black after a few seconds.
 
Definitely can confirm the yellow tint issue on some of the Iphone12ProMAX Models.
Checked in an apple store and 1 out of 4 had this issue. Also ran into settings and so on, switching off True Tone.
Most notable, the Blue Color IPhones didn’t had this problem and had a very white Screen. But the graphite ones had this problem more often than others. I have to say if you get one with a white screen it is absolutely stunning and a perfect screen.
 
Applying a color tint didn't destroy color accuracy for me. Did you actually try to match up your screen to a known good screen when adjusting color tint? And did you set the intensity to the lowest setting?

I purchased an i1Display Pro Plus and ran some tests to measure the effect of applying the color tint I posted earlier in the thread, and here are my results:

Default, no color tint applied, Night Mode off:
  • Max brightness: 825.1 cd/m²
  • Color temp: 6521K
  • Average ΔE: 0.99
  • Max ΔE: 2.03
Color tint applied, Night Mode off:
  • Max brightness: 669.7 cd/m²
  • Color temp: 8203K
  • Average ΔE: 1.17
  • Max ΔE: 3.21
Color tint applied, Night Mode on:
  • Max brightness: 630.8 cd/m²
  • Color temp: 6633K
  • Average ΔE: 1.26
  • Max ΔE: 3.7
As you can see, applying color tint and Night Mode did reduce max brightness quite a bit, but the 12 Pros have such high brightness to begin with that it's not a huge deal. It essentially reduced the brightness to the same as the regular iPhone 12, which have a max brightness of 625 cd/m². Although if you have a regular 12 or 12 Mini, the brightness might be reduced too much.

As for the color accuracy, it was reduced, but it's still very good even with the color tint and night mode applied. This will obviously depend on how you set the color tint slider. If you just blindly set it to something that you think looks good, it might make color accuracy a lot worse. I would recommend trying to match it to a phone or computer with a known good display.

Finally, we can see that it really is necessary to turn on Night Mode to a low setting if you apply a blueish color tint. With just the color tint alone and no Night Mode, the color temp was way too cool at 8203K. But with Night Mode, you could essentially bring it down to whatever you want.
Do you have a warm tinted screen? Because according to these readings your accuracy is pretty dead on. White point is very close to D65 and your ΔE is less than 1 (accurate).
 
Question - Anyone that has the problem of yellow/green screen tint, do you also have the pure black flickering issue?
My 12 mini has both. The yellow/green tint is the more extreme of the issues, and the reason I'm sending mine back. The flickering is only noticeable when running the black screen test video in a pitch black room. It's imperceptible in normal operating conditions.
 
Still dont know what to think.
Whats the problem? Software or hardware?
First it looked like a display driver problem, now as time fly, i think it is hardware defect.

How they got near-perfect white point with measurments, and screen is dull and yellow...
Someone with expert opinon?

Apple should issue a statement at least, its been a month today!

My personal (noob) thinking is that low light green issue is connected with yellow screen issue, in both cases, something with green color is making a problem. BUT....

Waiting for Apple...
It is hardware, the screen itself has a tint to be specific. Do this experiment to confirm for yourself:
  • Turn off the screen and look at the reflection of something white in it, like a wall.
  • Do the same with another phone that you think has a cooler screen.
  • Compare both and you'll see that the reflections themselves have different tints.
 
Definitely can confirm the yellow tint issue on some of the Iphone12ProMAX Models.
Checked in an apple store and 1 out of 4 had this issue. Also ran into settings and so on, switching off True Tone.
Most notable, the Blue Color IPhones didn’t had this problem and had a very white Screen. But the graphite ones had this problem more often than others. I have to say if you get one with a white screen it is absolutely stunning and a perfect screen.
My yellowish tint iPhone 12 pro MAX is Graphite. 1 more to the statistics
 
It is hardware, the screen itself has a tint to be specific. Do this experiment to confirm for yourself:
  • Turn off the screen and look at the reflection of something white in it, like a wall.
  • Do the same with another phone that you think has a cooler screen.
  • Compare both and you'll see that the reflections themselves have different tints.
Give this man the comedy award.
 
Yellow Pro Max here. Comparing my iPad Pro 2018 with the iPhone12PM - it‘s like day and night.
iPad with True Tone: Perfect.
iPhone with and without True Tone: Meeeeh.

Noticed a greenish hue in SWGOH‘s Sith Raid yesterday. So it looks like a green-problem, not a yellow-problem to me.
Looks as if some iPhone batches skipped color calibration or lost the data in some way.

Will be interesting to see how Apple is going to solve this.
 
It is hardware, the screen itself has a tint to be specific. Do this experiment to confirm for yourself:
  • Turn off the screen and look at the reflection of something white in it, like a wall.
  • Do the same with another phone that you think has a cooler screen.
  • Compare both and you'll see that the reflections themselves have different tints.
That’s actually a fairly astute observation. I remember doing this years ago with my yellow tinted iPhone 7. I was able to see a difference between mine and another “cooler” screened iPhone 7.
 
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That’s actually a fairly astute observation. I remember doing this years ago with my yellow tinted iPhone 7. I was able to see a difference between mine and another “cooler” screened iPhone 7.
Inside True Tone makes the warm screen more yellow. However, today, outside when I was walking I turned True Tone on and it got rid of the warm yellow and turned blue white.

I think therefore it might be a software thing where when you turn off True Tone and then go inside with dimmer lighting, True Tone partially stays on and gives the screen that warmer look (if that makes any sense, or am I talking 💩?)

That could also explain why all the phones have varying degrees of tint and why some claim they have true whites - different lighting?
 
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How have you planned to manage this panel lottery? return and re-order? ask for a replacement with a white box (bad idea i thinkg)
First attempt is a white box replacement. They should all be brand new phones at this point because the Pro Max was only released 10 days ago (7 days when I requested replacement), so there's no way there would have been time for someone to return a phone and Apple ship it to their refurb facility, test it, replace the external components, and then prepare it to ship out as someone's replacement. I would guess that all white box replacements sent out during the first month at least are brand new phones.

If the first white box replacement is bad, I'll reject it, and I haven't decided how to proceed at that point. I would probably request another white box. I have until January 8 to return the original phone, but I would prefer not to go that route because I have a 30 month payment plan set up with AT&T, which is supposed to include a $700 discount spread over the 30 months for trading in my iPhone X, and it would likely be a massive pain to get that canceled and sign up for it again. I haven't sent my iPhone X in for trade-in yet, and I guess I have until December 13 to send it in and get the $700 trade-in offer. If I haven't received a good replacement by December 13, I'm going to have a tough decision to make... either return it and potentially miss out on the $700 trade-in deal if AT&T ends that promotion, or get locked in to the purchase and keep making exchanges.
 
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Inside True Tone makes the warm screen more yellow. However, today, outside when I was walking I turned True Tone on and it got rid of the warm yellow and turned blue white.

I think therefore it might be a software thing where when you turn off True Tone and then go inside with dimmer lighting, True Tone partially stays on and gives the screen that warmer look (if that makes any sense, or am I talking 💩?)

That could also explain why all the phones have varying degrees of tint and why some claim they have true whites - different lighting?
While it could be true, I think its more likely all the early batch iPhones have slightly different calibrations, with the green color channel being stronger hence the warmer look.
 
this problem can be fixed with an ios update? or is just a def device? Ive read some macrumours news about this happened with some 11 pro and pro max and It was fixed with an ios update, it is really truth ?
 
Inside True Tone makes the warm screen more yellow. However, today, outside when I was walking I turned True Tone on and it got rid of the warm yellow and turned blue white.

I think therefore it might be a software thing where when you turn off True Tone and then go inside with dimmer lighting, True Tone partially stays on and gives the screen that warmer look (if that makes any sense, or am I talking 💩?)

That could also explain why all the phones have varying degrees of tint and why some claim they have true whites - different lighting?
I have theorized exactly the same thing a couple pages ago, but the fact that people have seen yellow and white screens in the same apple store (i.e. same lighting) kinda invalidates this theory..
 
this problem can be fixed with an ios update? or is just a def device? Ive read some macrumours news about this happened with some 11 pro and pro max and It was fixed with an ios update, it is really truth ?
I mean technically yes, or at least it could be alleviated. Google did that with the Pixel 2XL. Apple doesn't have a history of doing that though so we'll see.
 
My personal (noob) thinking is that low light green issue is connected with yellow screen issue, in both cases, something with green color is making a problem. BUT....

Waiting for Apple...
Well I have to disagree..i have a yellow/green tint but NO low light problems whatsoever. My blacks are always perfect and I use the phone a LOT when it's dark, I did the several tests too, blacks are perfectly black, always.
 
I have theorized exactly the same thing a couple pages ago, but the fact that people have seen yellow and white screens in the same apple store (i.e. same lighting) kinda invalidates this theory..
That reality of seeing different tints in display units at the Apple store (same table) I think supports the argument of this being a hardware issue or specific units with incorrect calibration. If true, there can’t be a one size fits all software fix to adjust calibration or tints as there seems to be many variations of yellow tint displays. The only way I could see Apple fix this is adding a whitepoint adjustment slider in the settings, which seems highly unlikely. That could come with iOS 15, with luck. I just don’t see that being released with an iOS 14.x update unfortunately.
 
Do you have a warm tinted screen? Because according to these readings your accuracy is pretty dead on. White point is very close to D65 and your ΔE is less than 1 (accurate).
Yes, the color temperature and color accuracy are good, and it's not too warm, but there is a green tint to everything, which is measurable by looking at an RGB balance chart:

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Definitely can confirm the yellow tint issue on some of the Iphone12ProMAX Models.
Checked in an apple store and 1 out of 4 had this issue. Also ran into settings and so on, switching off True Tone.
Most notable, the Blue Color IPhones didn’t had this problem and had a very white Screen. But the graphite ones had this problem more often than others. I have to say if you get one with a white screen it is absolutely stunning and a perfect screen.
I'm going to agree with you, it just so happens that the best panels I've seen are from the Iphone 12 pro max pacific blue.


It would be nice if all of you who report the yellow screen say the color of your iphone.
 
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