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I'm going to agree with you, it just so happens that the best panels I've seen are from the Iphone 12 pro max pacific blue.


It would be nice if all of you who report the yellow screen say the color of your iphone.
All 4 of my warm screens were gold.

Any one have any silver screens that are good?
 
It is hardware, the screen itself has a tint to be specific. Do this experiment to confirm for yourself:
  • Turn off the screen and look at the reflection of something white in it, like a wall.
  • Do the same with another phone that you think has a cooler screen.
  • Compare both and you'll see that the reflections themselves have different tints.
Holy crap. I thought this guy was crazy, but he's right! With both my iPhone X and 12 Pro Max displays off, the reflection of my white ceiling is noticeably more green on the 12 Pro Max, so it's definitely a hardware issue, possibly glass that is slightly green tinted. I wonder if the new ceramic shield glass is what's defective and not the displays themselves.
 
Holy crap. I thought this guy was crazy, but he's right! With both my iPhone X and 12 Pro Max displays off, the reflection of my white ceiling is noticeably more green on the 12 Pro Max, so it's definitely a hardware issue, possibly glass that is slightly green tinted. I wonder if the new ceramic shield glass is what's defective and not the displays themselves.
I mean...I usually tend to be both.
 
Holy crap. I thought this guy was crazy, but he's right! With both my iPhone X and 12 Pro Max displays off, the reflection of my white ceiling is noticeably more green on the 12 Pro Max, so it's definitely a hardware issue, possibly glass that is slightly green tinted. I wonder if the new ceramic shield glass is what's defective and not the displays themselves.
I'm not seeing that on mine, although it is interesting that the Note 20 Ultra and Fold 2 both have Gorilla Victus (ceramic shield essentially) and also show warmer color temps.
 
Yes, the color temperature and color accuracy are good, and it's not too warm, but there is a green tint to everything, which is measurable by looking at an RGB balance chart:

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What I find most interesting in this graph is not the green being slightly higher than normal, it is the red and blue significantly lower than they should be at lower brightness. The lack of red and blue highlights the green.
 
What I find most interesting in this graph is not the green being slightly higher than normal, it is the red and blue significantly lower than they should be at lower brightness. The lack of red and blue highlights the green.
gtg465x, if you run the test on your iPhone X what does it look like?
 
Some more pics/evidence for the collention. Serial starts with G0NDL. Brightness at 50% set by Siri. True Tone and night shift off. 12 pro max to the left, XS max to the right.
more notable with your own eyes with phones next to eachother. Not the worst I’ve seen here but it’s there. The XS max does “feel” like a crisper white
It seems to me as one of the phone are tuned by color filter and higher contrast on. Sorry when I am wrong but the blue, grey or green background of the buttons looks not like the standard should looks.
 

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Surely this has to be a software problem, how can BOE (not sure if they actually make iPhone 12 screens), LG and Samsung all have similar problems over the entire iPhone range. If it was just one manufacturer I could understand but all of them having the same problem doesn't seem right.
 
What I find most interesting in this graph is not the green being slightly higher than normal, it is the red and blue significantly lower than they should be at lower brightness. The lack of red and blue highlights the green.
What's also interesting, is that this graph lines up with the other RBG balance graphs I saw of display units of Samsung Galaxies and generally other OLED phones released this year. I think this might be an industry wide issue this year.

I...also took the time to look at the other side of the river so to speak, and researched if other phones this year exhibited the same issues and look and behold:

https://www.sammobile.com/news/infa...sue-returns-galaxy-tab-s7-plus-note-20-ultra/

Looks like Samsung phones, the Google Pixel 4, OnePlus 8 Pro and Nord are also experience the green tint issue with their OLED displays.

Saving grace is, that apparently Samsung sorted this stuff out with a software fix, so there is hope left for us as well!
 
Decided on returning my 12PM for the time being. Asides from the screen difference this year, also found mine had part of the coating between the frame and glass peeled off. It was minor, but it was there and once I saw it there was no going back. Blame it on my OCD.

Also returned a 12 Pro for the same reason.

Apple’s quality this year has been terrible. I’ve never had problems as this with any phone purchases in the past. Disappointing for mobiles costing over a grand.
 
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What's also interesting, is that this graph lines up with the other RBG balance graphs I saw of display units of Samsung Galaxies and generally other OLED phones released this year. I think this might be an industry wide issue this year.

I...also took the time to look at the other side of the river so to speak, and researched if other phones this year exhibited the same issues and look and behold:

https://www.sammobile.com/news/infa...sue-returns-galaxy-tab-s7-plus-note-20-ultra/

Looks like Samsung phones, the Google Pixel 4, OnePlus 8 Pro and Nord are also experience the green tint issue with their OLED displays.

Saving grace is, that apparently Samsung sorted this stuff out with a software fix, so there is hope left for us as well!
Thanks for sharing this.
 
Wow that's actually interesting. Thought there would be a much more pronounced blue throughout the graph but the 12 actually fairs better aside from the low end.
The iPhone X color temperature is actually 6554K, which is surprising, because it looks cooler than my 12 Pro Max, which is 6521K. I was expecting the X to be in the neighborhood of 6700-6800K. I wonder if the off axis color shift is altering my perception of how cool the screens are. I don't know how to measure at an angle, but my X definitely gets very blue when I look at it from an angle, and my 12 Pro Max gets very green when I look at it from an angle.
 
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The iPhone X color temperature is actually 6554K, which is surprising, because it looks cooler than my 12 Pro Max, which is 6521K. I was expecting the X to be in the neighborhood of 6700-6800K. I wonder if the off axis color shift is altering my perception of how cool the screens are. I don't know how to measure at and angle, but my X definitely gets very blue when I look at it from an angle, and my 12 Pro Max gets very green when I look at it from an angle.
I think someone mentioned it on the thread way back, but I believe you can have an accurate white balance and still have colors be off. I could be wrong though. I'm doing some googling right now to find a definite answer.
 
At lower brightness the green is not that much different. Red and blue look better at lower brightness. Overall more consistent.
Just want to clear one thing up. The x axis on these graphs is not brightness. All of the measurements are taken at the same brightness. The x axis is grayscale, so 0% is black, 25% is dark gray, 50% is medium gray, 75% is light gray, 100% is white. So the 12 Pro Max graph, for example, is telling us that, at this specific brightness (42%), white is well balanced, but dark grays have a lot of green tint.
 
however, the screen is yellow but when you see a hdr video you can see it very well .. there must be some software problem
 
Just want to clear one thing up. The x axis on these graphs is not brightness. All of the measurements are taken at the same brightness. The x axis is grayscale, so 0% is black, 25% is dark gray, 50% is medium gray, 75% is light gray, 100% is white. So the 12 Pro Max graph, for example, is telling us that, at this specific brightness (42%), white is well balanced, but dark grays have a lot of green tint.
Got it, thanks for clarifying!
 
Surely this has to be a software problem, how can BOE (not sure if they actually make iPhone 12 screens), LG and Samsung all have similar problems over the entire iPhone range. If it was just one manufacturer I could understand but all of them having the same problem doesn't seem right.
BOE is not in any iPhone 12s yet. There was just an article last week about them not passing Apple's certification to become an iPhone display supplier. So it's just LG and Samsung, and I suspect Samsung might still be making the vast majority of displays since they've been at it longer and probably have better yields.
 
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so are the duds LG?

I know there's bad Samsungs too, especially since X/XS/11 Pro were all Samsung and plenty of those

but the new green tint issue / not perfect blacks? dont recall that being a problem in the past
 
so are the duds LG?

I know there's bad Samsungs too, especially since X/XS/11 Pro were all Samsung and plenty of those

but the new green tint issue / not perfect blacks? dont recall that being a problem in the past

No, mine is a Samsung and it has green tint. There are duds from both, but we don't know what the cause is. Might not even be the displays themselves... could be flaws in Apple's calibration process or flaws in the ceramic shield glass. It's all speculation at this point.
 
No, mine is a Samsung and it has green tint. There are duds from both, but we don't know what the cause is. Might not even be the displays themselves... could be flaws in Apple's calibration system or flaws in the ceramic shield glass. It's all speculation at this point.

is that 3u tools identiifer accurate?

would love to see a good LG vs a good Samsung compared of the same model
 
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