Yellow tint on Haswell rMBP 15"

[toneLA]

Well how would I go about fixing the creaking then?
Cos I really have no idea.
Feels like the possibility is high that if they repair it the new back plate will either: not fit 100% perfectly or have the same issue. The clearance on the back plates really are minuscule, so they are probably picked out the same way as the iPhone back glass/metal clearance is. In other words they check it with high quality cameras that takes one of like 100 that is the best fit.
And if i get a replacement, that will fit even worse, or am i wrong?

The thing is if I get it repaired, I don't believe I can return it if the repair don't fix it. And I don't dare trying to remove the screws, and screwing them back again. Because its more or less impossible to do that without scratching the screws, and if they see that they will probably say I caused the creaking because I have opened the back plate.


So you see the dilemma I have?

And at the bottom of this pit of crap, is the fact that i should NOT need to repair a brand spanking new computer. The fact that they all seem to have issues is really mind boggling.
And I REALLY cant believe that it haven't got any press on the Mac sites yet. It's starting to feel like they are hiding it on Macrumors, Appleinsider, 9to5mac and so on really.
Cos these issues really deserve to be on the front page.

There are 2 types of creaking affecting the rMBP.

The first type : Creaking on the sides by the air intake. Loud, distinctive click. Almost like a dog training clicker. That one is most likely due to the rubbing of the metal plate against the metal chassis. 90% of the time, the screw nearby is loose. Tightening it usually solves the problem.

The second type : Squeaking all around the bottom plate. You can hear it by pressing on the center of the bottom plate, the palm-rest area when the lid is open as well as the keyboard. That's the annoying kind to fix. Most likely due to the springs inside pushing against the bottom plate to keep it away from the logic board. I've heard many people successfully mitigating the issue by applying electrical tape on the inside of the bottom plate where the springs make contact.

I have gone through so many rMBPs before I was able to find the one. I probably understand your frustration more than anyone here.

Though, if your screen is perfect, I would use the 14-days to give it a go on my own. Order the iFixit MBP/MBA screwdriver and pop the plate open. I did it myself in 30 seconds. (I had the screwdriver already) Not a stripped screw, not a scratch. Impossible for Apple to detect when I ended up returning it afterwards. My creaking was the annoying kind and I thought that by removing the screws and readjusting the assembly it would solve the issue. I wasn't lucky this time around.

I think that most people don't see the defect on their screens but they are present. I don't believe that I'm *that* unlucky — if I go through 5 screens before I can find a good one, something really wrong must be happening. But do you believe that the non-PRO users notice? Because let's face it, most people who buy rMBPs aren't professionals anymore. Though, real PRO users have an eye for graphics and color and they are the one who notice.

Like for my early-2013, LG ends up being the superior choice. Richer colors, whiter/crisper whites, deeper blacks. Better contrast. No IR on the 15-inch. A real pleasure to look at it.

Samsung displays are way too warm even when they are 'free from defects'. And when they are defective, they look muddy/beige/dirty. It really struck me in the mail application. The messages at the bottom in the mailbox list looked almost greyed out compared to the ones at the top. Disgusting.

Took me 5 tries but I have an LG and it's perfect. I also have no creaks and the assembly feels rock solid. The one unit that gave me trouble with the creaking (at identical weight obviously) felt completely flimsy in comparison. Apple QC is no longer what it used to be.

I miss the PowerBook G4 era. At $3,700 a pop, getting it out of its box was a no-surprise affair.

 

[Jg220]

I'm sorry to say, but if you sent yours back expecting to get one that looks better than the photo I posted, you might be in for an uphill battle...

In that case I'll probably try one more time and then give up.

 

[fire-s]

Update:

after 1 week of looking at the light yellow bottom of my screen and checking several units at the local apple store i decided to send back my half yellow-tinted rMBP.
first because i do not want to spend over 3.000 $ for an "issued" display and on the other hand i saw one with a perfect screen - it was an A019 - whatever it means - but i was perfect (also confirmed by my girlfriend).

All the yellow tinted or non-uniform were A022 - the perfect one was an A019.
I also read at the Apple-forum, that there are two exchangers with some perfect A019 -
It seems that this time the LG A019 is the "winner"

So i decided to play the "display-lottery" - i do not know how many exchanges i'll have to do - but tbh to live 2-3 years with an faulty display and to look at a screen where even the colors of the macrumors forum looking different, comparing top with the bottom of the screen is noting worth 3.000$

just a few minutes ago, also my father recognized it and he never looked at a MBP or an rMBP before...

 

[zOlid]

I'd love to know too as I've been told the same thing. In-fact I have an email from my Apple support person which says:



I don't think they would just outright lie to us, so I'm going to take them at their word.

It's very possible that they didn't lie to you. But i seriously doubt they are doing a through check of the laptop, hopefully its through enough tho.

There are 2 types of creaking affecting the rMBP.

The first type : Creaking on the sides by the air intake. Loud, distinctive click. Almost like a dog training clicker. That one is most likely due to the rubbing of the metal plate against the metal chassis. 90% of the time, the screw nearby is loose. Tightening it usually solves the problem.

The second type : Squeaking all around the bottom plate. You can hear it by pressing on the center of the bottom plate, the palm-rest area when the lid is open as well as the keyboard. That's the annoying kind to fix. Most likely due to the springs inside pushing against the bottom plate to keep it away from the logic board. I've heard many people successfully mitigating the issue by applying electrical tape on the inside of the bottom plate where the springs make contact.

I have gone through so many rMBPs before I was able to find the one. I probably understand your frustration more than anyone here.

Though, if your screen is perfect, I would use the 14-days to give it a go on my own. Order the iFixit MBP/MBA screwdriver and pop the plate open. I did it myself in 30 seconds. (I had the screwdriver already) Not a stripped screw, not a scratch. Impossible for Apple to detect when I ended up returning it afterwards. My creaking was the annoying kind and I thought that by removing the screws and readjusting the assembly it would solve the issue. I wasn't lucky this time around.

I think that most people don't see the defect on their screens but they are present. I don't believe that I'm *that* unlucky — if I go through 5 screens before I can find a good one, something really wrong must be happening. But do you believe that the non-PRO users notice? Because let's face it, most people who buy rMBPs aren't professionals anymore. Though, real PRO users have an eye for graphics and color and they are the one who notice.

Like for my early-2013, LG ends up being the superior choice. Richer colors, whiter/crisper whites, deeper blacks. Better contrast. No IR on the 15-inch. A real pleasure to look at it.

Samsung displays are way too warm even when they are 'free from defects'. And when they are defective, they look muddy/beige/dirty. It really struck me in the mail application. The messages at the bottom in the mailbox list looked almost greyed out compared to the ones at the top. Disgusting.

Took me 5 tries but I have an LG and it's perfect. I also have no creaks and the assembly feels rock solid. The one unit that gave me trouble with the creaking (at identical weight obviously) felt completely flimsy in comparison. Apple QC is no longer what it used to be.

I miss the PowerBook G4 era. At $3,700 a pop, getting it out of its box was a no-surprise affair.

The creak is just to the left of the touchpad.
Sometimes it creaks, some times it clicks.
But its not only there, the over all laptop creaks faintly when you move it, it just sounds like a cheap plastic computer.
If i press on the middle, i can hear it hitting something, its like its flexing. And im not putting any force at all on it, just barely touching it.

 

[toneLA]

It's very possible that they didn't lie to you. But i seriously doubt they are doing a through check of the laptop, hopefully its through enough tho.


The creak is just to the left of the touchpad.
Sometimes it creaks, some times it clicks.
But its not only there, the over all laptop creaks faintly when you move it, it just sounds like a cheap plastic computer.
If i press on the middle, i can hear it hitting something, its like its flexing. And im not putting any force at all on it, just barely touching it.

Yes. I see what you mean. And that's not normal at all. That's the type due to the springs and the overall adjustment. It just feels 'cheap', right?

The one I tinkered with was exactly like that. It didn't feel solid. Heck, my 11-inch Haswell Air felt better in comparison. I returned it because I couldn't tolerate spending that much money for something that felt flimsy — in essence risking the screen lottery again. But I ended up getting another perfect LG screen and the build quality is night and day. Very sturdy. Not a single click, creak, squeak. I can be using it on my lap, in bed, on a table or uneven surface and it will not make a sound. I literally felt it pulling it out of the box. The previous one was flexing between my fingers. This actually makes me wonder if there are differences in the unibody construction. Maybe the bottom plate and bottom case have a slight thickness difference (within the shell) depending on the batch making them prone to more flex than normal.

Your decision to return it is definitely right. Fingers crossed you get a flawless one next and put this non-sense to rest.

 

[derekwg]

hi

Guys is thus "yellow tinted"?

 

[fire-s]

Guys is thus "yellow tinted"?

Yes - like mine, I'm returning...

Looks like a Samsung A022 ?

 

[derekwg]

Yes - like mine, I'm returning...

Looks like a Samsung A022 ?

Yes Buddy!is A022 is this yellowish background is normal(except the corner area)?my Sony vaio background is so white....

 

[superego]

A bit of a dilemma here. I got my mbp a few days ago and have been using it casually. With light browsing the display seems great and nothing seems wrong with it. I loaded up a blank white page and it seemed pretty uniform to me there as well.

However when I tried to do the checkerboard test to check for image retention, I noticed that the white checkerboards were distinctly whiter than the ones near the bottom corners. I wouldn't notice if I wasn't looking very closely but there was definitely a difference. The disparity diminishes once I turn the brightness up and in regular usage I see no problems but only on the checkerboard I can see that it is slightly less white.

So is there a way I can be sure my screen is yellow and not just my eyes playing tricks? And is it worth it to return the laptop and ask for a replacement for this level of yellow?

edit: Here is a picture comparing it to my old computer. The picture makes it look way more pronounced but there you go.

Image

Well, your rMBP screen is definitely "dirty" yellow in colour. On the other hand, I think the display on your old computer is a bit too cool in colour temperature, meaning it's slightly too blueish.

But really, the white point is way off the mark in your new computer. White should look white, not yellow.

 

[derekwg]

Yes Buddy!is A022 is this yellowish background is normal(except the corner area)?my Sony vaio background is so white....

Hi I rechecked again,mine is A01.
LSN154YL01-A01?

 

[fitgirl]

How does this look?

 

[Nismo73]

Hi I rechecked again,mine is A01.
LSN154YL01-A01?

Samsung

 

[superego]

How does this look?

A bit yellowish tone overall. Backlighting is not entirely uniform, as there are noticeable darker areas in bottom left and right corners. It's not as bad as the worst ones on this forum.

 

[fitgirl]

A bit yellowish tone overall. Backlighting is not entirely uniform, as there are noticeable darker areas in bottom left and right corners. It's not as bad as the worst ones on this forum.

Do you think it's worth returning?

 

[pendragon1984]

Do you think it's worth returning?

That sir, depends entirely on you. I wouldn't be happy with a screen like that on a high end notebook. But if you return it, you may have to do so more than once to get a better screen than that one. I don't know for sure though... It's just that so many people have gone through multiple replacements, including myself, that it seems like most of the screens are poor quality.

 

[fitgirl]

That sir, depends entirely on you. I wouldn't be happy with a screen like that on a high end notebook. But if you return it, you may have to do so more than once to get a better screen than that one. I don't know for sure though... It's just that so many people have gone through multiple replacements, including myself, that it seems like most of the screens are poor quality.

This is so frustrating and I really don't think it has anything to do with what batch it is because they had issues with screen quality on their previous retina MacBook Pro, this is now my 4th replacement.

 

[zOlid]

Please STOP with the pictures.
Cos they don't represent anything really, unless its really bad.
Cameras white balance the pictures, and the view angel automatically gives the corners less brightness.

So, just check it your self against a white background, or with the screen test site.
If you can see it and it bothers you, change it.
If you cant, then why would you exchange it?
So to ask if "Does this have nonuniform colors and/or are yellow tinted?" is really a stupid question, because if you cant see it, why would it matter?

If you want to show of your perfect screen that is fine, but no one can really tell from a picture if yours isn't, as long as its not really bad that is, but then you should be able to tell also.

 

[Mab213]

Ok so I finally returned my rMBP with the yellow corners (Samsung Display), exchanged for a new one and received a perfect LG display. No yellowing at all and no creaking.

I was really hesitant of doing a switch and getting another with a Samsung but I'm glad I did.

 

[jcmendes]

Is this a good color test?

http://www.ledr.com/colours/multi.htm

In the grey didn t notice any yellow part with the others colors nothing too. A022

 

[fitgirl]

Please STOP with the pictures.
Cos they don't represent anything really, unless its really bad.
Cameras white balance the pictures, and the view angel automatically gives the corners less brightness.

So, just check it your self against a white background, or with the screen test site.
If you can see it and it bothers you, change it.
If you cant, then why would you exchange it?
So to ask if "Does this have nonuniform colors and/or are yellow tinted?" is really a stupid question, because if you cant see it, why would it matter?

If you want to show of your perfect screen that is fine, but no one can really tell from a picture if yours isn't, as long as its not really bad that is, but then you should be able to tell also.

You know what your totally right, I'm looking at my screen right now and it looks totally white with no darker areas in the corners, also the pic I took was with my iphone in the dark with no flash on and I just took another one with the flash on and it looks totally different. I think we should just look at our screens and judge what we see with our own naked eye because what we see in real life will always be more accurate.

 

[aiyaaabatt]

You know what your totally right, I'm looking at my screen right now and it looks totally white with no darker areas in the corners, also the pic I took was with my iphone in the dark with no flash on and I just took another one with the flash on and it looks totally different. I think we should just look at our screens and judge what we see with our own naked eye because what we see in real life will always be more accurate.

Yea, he's totally right. I was too lazy to write the same thing, basically. Especially camera phones, it is impossible to tell white levels from them (and also yellow tints in the corners, due to IPS angle shifts which can be exaggerated by the camera phone).

Any questions (pertaining to white levels and yellow tints in corners, at least) needs to be asked and answered only by the person who is physically looking at the screen.

 

[fitgirl]

Yea, he's totally right. I was too lazy to write the same thing, basically. Especially camera phones, it is impossible to tell white levels from them (and also yellow tints in the corners, due to IPS angle shifts which can be exaggerated by the camera phone).

Any questions (pertaining to white levels and yellow tints in corners, at least) needs to be asked and answered only by the person who is physically looking at the screen.

Yep.

 

[zOlid]

So I went to replace my second rMBP today, because of it creaking issues.
And the replacement unit i got looks great, just like the last one I had, and the one they had on display in store. So thats 3x rMBP 15" with gt750 with perfect screens from the same store. (One on display, one that had creaking and the one I got now.)
When I have a full white back ground, it looks really uniform, no yellowing or stuff like that. It do have just the TINY bits of white imbalance over the screen just like ALL screens do. (we are talking like 1% shifts over the whole screen, so its extremely good)
When I looked at it in the store i thought I could see some yellowing in the bottom, but this time it was more of a spot and it was not in a corner. How ever it was EXTREMELY faint, and the spot is gone now. So it was probably glue or what ever. And the display don't feel to warm either.

And this unit has no creaking.

So far, so good.
I really hope I don't find any other issues with this unit. Because atm this feels pretty damn perfect.

The display id is: LSN154YL01-A01

Finally time to install some stuff and start using this computer for real.

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I'm doing the last test now, if it passes I'll finally be done with this exchange crap.
Running IR test atm, but since its a Samsung display it will most likely pass with flying colors.
I would have liked a LG display better, since it has a bit cooler colors, but the samsung display i got now is barely on the warm side. So this looks more natural then the LG tbh.

EDIT
It had no IR what so ever.




YEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYY

 

[ducatiti]

Ok so I finally returned my rMBP with the yellow corners (Samsung Display), exchanged for a new one and received a perfect LG display. No yellowing at all and no creaking.

I was really hesitant of doing a switch and getting another with a Samsung but I'm glad I did.

For the first gen retina, I returned it three times due to cosmetic, yellowish screen, IR, etc then decided to return it for good to wait for Haswell.

With this gen, I ended up returning it twice and finally got a perfect one. LG is the way to go this time around. Even with the previous gen, Samsung's tend to be yellowish in color.

 

[johnnylarue]

After singing the praises of my Samsung display, I've come to be bothered by the unevenness in the backlighting. Note the vertical dark streak 1/3 in from the right side of the display.

It's noticeable to me whenever I drag a window through that area, or obviously whenever I'm looking at blank desktop with any solid colour.

I'm now debating on whether or not I should return it and try to "win" one with an LG display, or count my losses and live with this one--as it's otherwise perfectly fine.