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Msail30bay

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Jan 4, 2014
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When I first saw it, I thought WTF!! It's U G L Y! But, I'v decided to do some house cleaning for the New Year and update my late 2010 MBA, 4 GB of RAM to Yosemite AND......... I'm loving' it!! I LOVE the clean modern look, the softness of the icons ...... their shapes and colors, the dock, etc. Safari DOES seem a bit faster - not eating-up CPU and the fan is not running on high while watching certain vids online. Just awesome ;)
 

grahamperrin

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Recognising the beauty (again)

I'm probably infamous for finding fault … the first day of 2015 is as good a day as any to balance things out a bit …

I do realise that there are some beautiful touches to Yosemite.

That's all :)
 

Etan1000

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May 18, 2008
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"The visual changes are also why Yosemite may feel like a more significant upgrade than Mavericks. For people who value being on the cutting edge of both fashion and technology, this will make Yosemite more attractive. For others, it will inspire some additional upgrade caution. Among the biggest curmudgeons, Mavericks may even become the new Snow Leopard: the last “good” release before Apple ruined everything."

OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review page 25
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/10/os-x-10-10/25/

I guess that makes a lot of curmudgeons?:)

Regards, Etan
 

G-Force

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I really like Yosemite, it's a fresh new look that was needed badly. It does need some refinement though in my opinion. There are still old style icons throughout the system and a lot of third party apps need to adapt, but that's not Apple's fault. It's a good start.
 

Omega Mac

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"The visual changes are also why Yosemite may feel like a more significant upgrade than Mavericks. For people who value being on the cutting edge of both fashion and technology, this will make Yosemite more attractive. For others, it will inspire some additional upgrade caution. Among the biggest curmudgeons, Mavericks may even become the new Snow Leopard: the last “good” release before Apple ruined everything."

OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review page 25
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/10/os-x-10-10/25/

I guess that makes a lot of curmudgeons?:)

Regards, Etan

That's an excellent long preview for those not wishing to install YOSX. Thanks for that link. Did YOSX get much of a run through on stage?

For context if you look back at Aqua launch Steve Jobs videos he went through the buttons and GUI elements one by one. Not marketing friendly but I haven't seen anything like this for YOSX.
 

FrakkinShip

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As someone who never used Mavericks, I think Yosemite is a breath of fresh air compared to Windows. I feel that the look and the user experience of Yosemite, along with the hardware in MY rMBP justify the inflated cost. I love the animations used when minimizing windows and switching between desktops. Mission Control is amazing and a fantastic way to get to the app you're using. Even the dock is pretty nice. I recall reading comments here about dock bring flat looking. It is certainly flat, but I don't mind.
 

grahamperrin

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Xeridionix

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Personally I really enjoy the new interface that was introduced with Yosemite, it's a rather refreshing change; that being said I haven't used a Mac since Snow Leopard but from what I've seen the updates to Aqua up until now were fairly minor and it was starting to become slightly dated (especially the 3D dock that was introduced with Leopard, while it saw minor tweaks and changes I really prefer the flat style).
 

F1Mac

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Personally I really enjoy the new interface that was introduced with Yosemite, it's a rather refreshing change; that being said I haven't used a Mac since Snow Leopard but from what I've seen the updates to Aqua up until now were fairly minor and it was starting to become slightly dated (especially the 3D dock that was introduced with Leopard, while it saw minor tweaks and changes I really prefer the flat style).

With the previous dock people were complaining about its lame 3D look, asking for something simple, 2D and "to the point". Now that Apple has made it 2D, slick and "to the point", guess what people are complaining about... ;)

As I often work with "darker" apps (Pro Tools, photoshop, premiere, AE, etc), I think some of Yosemite's UI is too bright, but I like the slicker look. I like the stylized icons/buttons.
 

pickaxe

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Nov 29, 2012
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With the previous dock people were complaining about its lame 3D look, asking for something simple, 2D and "to the point". Now that Apple has made it 2D, slick and "to the point", guess what people are complaining about... ;)

They are complaining about it being very poorly executed. And "slick"? Give me a break.
 

This Dude

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Jan 15, 2015
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Are you able to connect to App Store? I had to try at least 20x before it did.

I don't know why but the APP store gave me non stop problems. I contacted Apple and they said nothing was wrong.
After loading it about 20 times now it goes on faster than ever before....Go figure.

Dock is extremely ugly though.....Hate it!!
 

davidlv

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Apr 5, 2009
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I don't know why but the APP store gave me non stop problems. I contacted Apple and they said nothing was wrong.
After loading it about 20 times now it goes on faster than ever before....Go figure.

Dock is extremely ugly though.....Hate it!!
Here is the required relief for the stock Dock!
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdock/
I especially like the transparent dock, positioned on the left side of the screen.
Now, if there was a good alternative for those over saturated icons, the DNS related issues, such as WiFi disconnects etc., I might consider installing Yosemite again. I bailed out the first time around, mostly due to the ugly icons and bad contrast differences resulting in hard-to-read issues, reverting to Mavericks.
Even after using a utility that substitutes Lucida Grande for the too-thin stock system font, and Liteicon to use another set of icons, Yosemite has problems presenting a uniform, easy-to-read UI. Definitely not "beautiful." (INMO)
 

GeoFan49

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I rarely update to any x.y.0 version of anything. I tend to WAIT 2-3 months, or WAIT for x.y.1 or x.y.2 before I jump forward.

I have recently updated (clean install) from Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 to Yosemite 10.10.1.

Mostly because I have an iPad Air with iOS 8.1 and wanted the benefits of integration between my iPad and MacBook Pro. I can get about 40% of my ordinary work done on the iPad and I use the MacBook Pro for the other 60%.

So far, I am very impressed with Yosemite, but some of my favorite apps will not run on Yosemite so I have to take the time and pay the expense of upgrading the apps or looking for alternatives.

EDIT:

My biggest PEEVE with YOSEMITE —— why cannot I expand the size of some preference panels and popups like before? There is no hot spot or grab tab on the lower right corner anymore? Often when scrolling is required, I may want to do a screen shot of ALL the info displayed... but now I cannot. Please put back the expansion capability. I want to be able to see the WHOLE panel, not just the top half...
 
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gwhuntoon

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Jan 20, 2015
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I left Microsoft Windows 7 to buy my first Macs when Microsoft came out with Windows 8. Unfortunately with the release of Yosemite, Apple is turning into the very thing I despise with Windows 8/10. To my disappointment, Apple has gone from being an innovator and leader to a follower; but of Microsoft? Really?

How will they be able to justify the luxury price when they have become nothing more than just another commodity? BTW - I'm not impressed with the so called quality. I've never had any issues with my PC's, any of them, since my DOS box, or my Amiga's, hell my Apple II still boots but I'm on my second main board in my Macbook Pro due to over heating.

And, yes, I've pretty much seen it all. I've been in love with Macs since I first touched a Lisa. I still have my Apple II in the attic. I've had Amiga's, Atari's, Ti's and cut my teeth on DOS 1.1.

So just how is Yosemite 'Fresh and New?' I guess what was old is new again. I just heard someone say the other day, they can't wait until we can go to Cuba and experience the fresh new looks. I guess, if you like the 1950's and 60'. IMHO, It's not about flat vs 3D, it's about choice. You will never get everyone to agree on a particular look or feel, nor should you. Diversity is what makes us great. So if you are listening Apple and Microsoft, why not let us customize the OS look and feel to our own particular taste and style?
 

TheBSDGuy

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Jan 24, 2012
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One of the illusions with Yosemite is that it's the screen shot of Yosemite itself that's impressive. With that in place, translucent effects are minimized and subtle, just like the colors in the picture. When people change the background, especially to something dark, the translucent effects in the dock, menubar, and menus can become erratic and quite ugly. Translucency in the title bar for windows leaves erratic effects very frequently.
 

redheeler

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Oct 17, 2014
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One of the illusions with Yosemite is that it's the screen shot of Yosemite itself that's impressive. With that in place, translucent effects are minimized and subtle, just like the colors in the picture. When people change the background, especially to something dark, the translucent effects in the dock, menubar, and menus can become erratic and quite ugly. Translucency in the title bar for windows leaves erratic effects very frequently.

People with dark backgrounds can simply switch to the dark theme. I'm surprised that hasn't occurred to you.
 

Loops

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Oct 5, 2010
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"fresh"
"clean"

All the vapid marketing speak reminds me of the use of the word "reboot" for AbramsTrek. :rolleyes:

If this florid interface with its cheap-looking trash can, kiddie Finder icon, flatness, and hodgepodge of Windows, Linux, and Android UI elements had been the one replaced by the look of Snow Leopard or Mavericks... largely the same people would be singing the praises of greater "depth" and "realism".

The last truly visually consistent release of OS X was Jaguar. Since then the UI has become increasingly muddled. Snow Leopard, though, certainly is a much higher point in design than Yosemite!
 

ZVH

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Apr 14, 2012
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I for one am beginning to take very serious looks at alternate operating systems. Yosemite is a bad joke. As one commenter on the App Store described it, she was not impressed with the "nursery school" looks of the OS. I couldn't agree more. But more importantly are the user deficits. I have personally witnessed the following on Yosemite:

  1. TextEdit crashing on a text file with the file being nothing more than basic text.
  2. Sketchy wi-fi issues, which seems to be system dependent.
  3. System Preferences crashing the system for no reason when trying to change boot drives.
  4. Some external drives going to sleep, then not waking up. Mavericks had this problem too, but they, for the most part fixed it, but apparently didn't bother migrating the changes to Yosemite.
  5. Excessive memory use for no apparent reason.
  6. Apple's own applications from earlier releases are now not compatible at all.

That's a limited list, people. I could write more but I'm not interested. The phrase "It just works" has been replaced by "It might work."

The path Apple is following strikes me as one brought to you by Wall Street - you know, the guys that brought the world to near bankruptcy about 7 years ago. Fast gimmicks, fast tricks, and hopefully fast cash and bonuses for people that have probably never spent one single day in their lives producing anything or doing any work, and instead manipulating finances to make a killing. Fear not, however, if their crack-pipe dreams don't succeed and Apple goes down the tube, they get golden parachutes for tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars for screwing a company up.

This is the way America seems to do business.
 
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