I was really looking forward to the design of Yosemite after seeing screenshots of it. After I installed it, I realized how horrible it looks (for now at least). The design could have been executed in a much better way in certain apps and places in the system. For the first time, I am somewhat dreading upgrading to the next version of OS X.
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Yosemite looks terrible!
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Title bars and addresses: gone. Customer: gone.
As 14A298i arrives, I depart.
Most aspects of Yosemite are beautiful, but I'm a user of addresses, title bars, titles, proxy icons and so on.
Apple is spoiling for me the app that I loved and used the most: Safari. Alternatives? Nightly builds of WebKit were not usable with 14A283o and I guess that eventually, the GUI of WebKit.app will be forced to share some of the same flaws as Safari 8.
Some of the design precedents associated with Safari in Yosemite are unacceptable to me. Abandoning the title bar; obscuring basic information such as addresses user interface inconsistencies such things make it less easy to use an Apple OS on Mac hardware.
Farewell, OS X.
It will surely succeed, but it's no longer the OS for me and the sooner I settle on alternatives, the less painful it will be.
https://twitter.com/grahamperrin/status/491410338097934336
https://alpha.app.net/grahamperrin/post/35065550 at the beginning of that thread, please note that my primary concern was not the look of OS X
As 14A298i arrives, I depart.
Most aspects of Yosemite are beautiful, but I'm a user of addresses, title bars, titles, proxy icons and so on.
Apple is spoiling for me the app that I loved and used the most: Safari. Alternatives? Nightly builds of WebKit were not usable with 14A283o and I guess that eventually, the GUI of WebKit.app will be forced to share some of the same flaws as Safari 8.
Some of the design precedents associated with Safari in Yosemite are unacceptable to me. Abandoning the title bar; obscuring basic information such as addresses user interface inconsistencies such things make it less easy to use an Apple OS on Mac hardware.
Farewell, OS X.
It will surely succeed, but it's no longer the OS for me and the sooner I settle on alternatives, the less painful it will be.
https://twitter.com/grahamperrin/status/491410338097934336
https://alpha.app.net/grahamperrin/post/35065550 at the beginning of that thread, please note that my primary concern was not the look of OS X
would you really drop an OS just because no title bars in Safari, whats the big deal??
No, I would not.
Please take a closer look at everything that I wrote, including the linked thread.
I guess Apple isn't going to update the hard drive/firewire/usb/time machine drive icons that appear on the desktop. They seem a little out of place to me, now that everything else has gone flat...
Well put.
Of course, considering what Apples users have devolved to become, Apple could make iOS and OS X look and act like Windows 3 and this same exact scenario would take place. Its pretty sad.
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The problem is that consumers dont do anything with their computers. They have no demands other than pretty and shiny. As Apple focuses more and more on this market segment, to the detriment of professional users, their customer satisfaction ratings naturally go higher.
Of course, considering what Apples users have devolved to become, Apple could make iOS and OS X look and act like Windows 3 and this same exact scenario would take place. Its pretty sad.
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The problem is that consumers dont do anything with their computers. They have no demands other than pretty and shiny. As Apple focuses more and more on this market segment, to the detriment of professional users, their customer satisfaction ratings naturally go higher.
Problem here is simple: What if you have a machine with both a retina and non-retina display? Apps can't respond to font changes between displays. Not only is the entire system and all apps not built to deal with that, but the spacing changes in text could dramatically shift things as you move windows between displays.
I embrace the evolution of the OS. Yet I did appreciate the depth of detail that went into the realistic design of the UI with a mix of the "Aqua" elements. I'll need to get used to this new design philosophy and I do wish they had taken a different design approach a few years back with iOS 7.
My biggest complaint about Yosemite is the default wallpaper (the only one in OS X's history that I truly dislike) so I guess I'm pretty happy with the UI changes. I have some minor reservations, but I like the changes I like more than I dislike the changes I don't like.
I haven't run Yosemite personally yet, but for anyone who has on a Macbook Air can you say if the font on the official Twitter app is comparable to the font of the general OS? Helvetica Neue actually looks pretty decent on my MBA running Mavericks and looks better than the screenshots I've seen of other people running Yosemite on a MBA. My worry is that it looked really jagged and unsmooth on Yosemite, but if it looks identical to how it is on the Twitter app on Mavericks I may actually not have a problem with the font.
Translated: they don't do what I do, therefore what they do is not worth catering to.
iOS 7 isn't even a year old.
Indeed, I was talking about the development side of things. As the redesign was initiated shortly afters Steve's death.
Let me end this discussion, right here, right now. The iMac was just not a professional look...
The iBook was just not a professional look.
The Blue and White G3 was just not a professional look.
Aqua was just not a professional look
Do you see what I'm saying?
If you want a professional look buy a ThinkPad, or a ThinkStation from Lenovo. If you just want to complain, we here you, and we don't care. Get it? Apple does not care what you think as you do not represent the product they are selling.If you still want to complain, sit down and watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
People have been complaining about Apple not having a professional look every time since Apple stopped making beige and black boxes. Your argument is old and no one cares what you think anymore, we've heard it ever since 1997. There are adults who were 1 year old when people like you started complaining about the direction Steve Jobbs and Johny Ives were taking Apple in. Yes I read those complaints when they first introduced the iMac and PowerBook in MacWorld magazine way back in the late 90s well before this forum existed.
You are resoundingly wrong. Apple has never once had a professional look since 1997.... And if you want that kind of professional look go buy a can of Pepsi off of John Sculley. Apple never has and never will be competitive in terms of professional looks. They are out stripped 10 to 1 in terms of workstations with professional looks in reality, Apple doesn't know how to do professional looks nor should they.
Professional looks are not what Apple does. If you want to live your life in a straight jacket then buy yourself a workstation running Windows 8 and leave everyone else who wants to buy a Mac alone.
--> The door is that way, don't let it hit your arse on the way out...
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Let me end this discussion, right here, right now. The iMac was just not a professional look...
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The iBook was just not a professional look.
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The Blue and White G3 was just not a professional look.
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Aqua was just not a professional look
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Do you see what I'm saying?
If you still want to complain, sit down and watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
People have been complaining about Apple not having a professional look every time since Apple stopped making beige and black boxes. Your argument is old and no one cares what you think anymore, we've heard it ever since 1997. There are adults who were 1 year old when people like you started complaining about the direction Steve Jobbs and Johny Ives were taking Apple in. Yes I read those complaints when they first introduced the iMac and PowerBook in MacWorld magazine way back in the late 90s well before this forum existed.
You are resoundingly wrong. Apple has never once had a professional look since 1997.... And if you want that kind of professional look go buy a can of Pepsi off of John Sculley. Apple never has and never will be competitive in terms of professional looks. They are out stripped 10 to 1 in terms of workstations with professional looks in reality, Apple doesn't know how to do professional looks nor should they.
Professional looks are not what Apple does. If you want to live your life in a straight jacket then buy yourself a workstation running Windows 8 and leave everyone else who wants to buy a Mac alone.
--> The door is that way, don't let it hit your arse on the way out...
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To be exact, the TAM itself was housed within the display like iMacs of today. The trash can in TAM was a subwoofer, part of the Bose sound system.
- At least Apple MUST come with an option to disable ALL translucency. Not only for the menu bar.
- Ditch the default wallpaper please. Use the booting-grey. It'll do. As at least 50% of Mac users can't change wallpapers, please keep this annoying image from this world.
- Include the sRGB profile in all OS PNG's, not AdobeRGB. Now all colours seem over saturated and clipping to sRGB boundaries.
- Kill the Finder smiley icon. Come with a boring SSD chip or something like that. The Finder Smiley had always been debatable, this incarnation is too much. It's face is just like cheap Lego clone mini-figs.
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