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No I did not post this thread it was posted by someone that does not like my case. And then he emailed me to show me what people were saying.

Thank You,
Tim Angel

Well if it wasn't for me no one would have known about you or your case.. Anyway i hate the logo not the case.. Shows me that you're not passionate about the logo and overall design because if you're putting a logo on a case it becomes a major part of the case's overall design. Maybe you just want to make a quick buck, don't see that you put any thought into the design.
 
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Considering he is in China, the word patent does not exist. There will be replicas within a week on Ebay.

Yes you are exactly right my friend. 100% correct.

I will stand out amongst them because of my high quality.

Thank You
Tim Angel

Well if it wasn't for me no one would have known about you or your case.. Anyway i hate the logo not the case.. Shows me that you're not passionate about the logo and overall design because if you're putting a logo on a case it becomes a major part of the case's overall design. Maybe you just want to make a quick buck, don't see that you put any thought into the design.

Quick buck, no I want to make this a permanent company and keep coming up with new innovative ideas.

It is not easy to here you say that I dont care. I have everything invested in this I have to say I have never cared about anything more than this company and this case, and its reputation.

You probably would not believe me if i told you how many thousands of hours of work i have put in to this company and this case.

I spent many many sleepless nights comming up with the design of this case and its functions.

I don't know why you dislike my logo so much.
I think my logo is very simple and looks great.

Come on man do you really think I am not passionate about this, I have EVERYTHING invested in this. I am currently selling the only thing I have left, my truck. If that doesn't say that I am passionate about this, than i don't know what does.

Thank You,
Tim Angel
 
I hear what you are saying as you keep repeating saying they won't stand out because they are not in color etc. but come on man you can't really believe that, they are absolutely huge and I know criticism is hard but maybe it's saying something that everyone has mentioned it, just because they are embossed does not mean they should be huge and everywhere. As much as I don't like them a small red tag would be better, why don't you have one small logo embossed in the corner instead of everywhere? On another note I think that your case could be really good and I will continue to watch it as I am looking for something different, and the descriptions sound good. I am looking for some multipurpose case that can do it all so if the logos get adjusted it could be the case for me
 
Well if it wasn't for me no one would have known about you or your case.. Anyway i hate the logo not the case.. Shows me that you're not passionate about the logo and overall design because if you're putting a logo on a case it becomes a major part of the case's overall design. Maybe you just want to make a quick buck, don't see that you put any thought into the design.

Dude shut up. Yeah, a few people here would probably not have known, but go smack yourself if you think that you played any major part in this guys process. Go get a life.

The logo is too big on the case btw. I would buy it if it added any character to the case. From the video, i couldn't see much.
 
Dude shut up. Yeah, a few people here would probably not have known, but go smack yourself if you think that you played any major part in this guys process. Go get a life.

The logo is too big on the case btw. I would buy it if it added any character to the case. From the video, i couldn't see much.

Shut your face :D
 
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Tim, there isn't anything too terrible about going all in on your investment...but I hope you're hedging yourself somehow.

Well honestly at the begining I sold everything but my truck. But now I am selling my Truck but to be honest I am not worried at all.

It does give me a lot of motivation though hahaha.

Thanks Brother,
Tim Angel

How long till its all good patent wise . Is that why you are holding out till late may

Yes that is part of the reason we have to be issued a pp and then see if we actually receive the patent.

Thanks Dino,
Tim Angel

I hear what you are saying as you keep repeating saying they won't stand out because they are not in color etc. but come on man you can't really believe that, they are absolutely huge and I know criticism is hard but maybe it's saying something that everyone has mentioned it, just because they are embossed does not mean they should be huge and everywhere. As much as I don't like them a small red tag would be better, why don't you have one small logo embossed in the corner instead of everywhere? On another note I think that your case could be really good and I will continue to watch it as I am looking for something different, and the descriptions sound good. I am looking for some multipurpose case that can do it all so if the logos get adjusted it could be the case for me

Yeah the Logos are big sorry about that, I have listened to every persons comments. I will create more designs don't worry this is only the beginning.

I used the case with the iPad in star bucks in Hong Kong.

I will never go anywhere without my iPad again hhah.

Thanks,
Tim Angel

Dude shut up. Yeah, a few people here would probably not have known, but go smack yourself if you think that you played any major part in this guys process. Go get a life.

The logo is too big on the case btw. I would buy it if it added any character to the case. From the video, i couldn't see much.

hahaha, Thanks Man for the support

Tim Angel

zoogue any chance of a picture of the case just the side that has the logo you can even trim the picture a bit to "hide" anything :p

yes sir here is a picture

Thankyou
Tim Angel
 

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Sorry that my case is different.

But calm down no one will force you to buy it.

Just buy a different one there are houndreds out there.

Hey maybe you can start your own company, but make sure you do what everyone tells you to do, then you will be very successful.

Thank you,

Tim Angel

HAHAHA

You are awesome, Good Luck Tim...:D

I'm on the same boat brother, Im trying to lauch my clothing line www.myspace.com/runoverclothing
 
Well if it wasn't for me no one would have known about you or your case.. Anyway i hate the logo not the case.. Shows me that you're not passionate about the logo and overall design because if you're putting a logo on a case it becomes a major part of the case's overall design. Maybe you just want to make a quick buck, don't see that you put any thought into the design.

Well, haters help like it or not...Good Luck Tim... People are negative by nature:apple:
 
Don't like the logo but if it's sleek like the apple case I am interested in seeing it. How long until the version without the logo will be released?
 
Mifi Card Slot Please

Tim:

Good luck to you. I am sorry there are so many insensitive and arrogant people on the forum. I am still searching for a case that operates like a folding book that has a space for a MiFi card. Many of us using the iPad use the MiFi card but no one has produced a case that has a pocket for it on a folding type of case.

I look forward to your announcement some day.
 
There is a reason why prudent business people do not sell everything they own and invest it in an unproven business (or, at this point, business idea) on the other side of the world in China.

I am surprised at the number of people supporting this gentleman in his efforts. Yes, we all like the underdog to win . . . but, we should at least like the underdog to have the common sense to know how to spell properly, design a product without gawdy logos, treat ALL customers with respect even if they are criticizing your product, and have some realistic backup plan instead of throwing caution to the wind.

I'm not saying it can't be done - but everything I've seen from this guy points towards failure. And yes Mr. Angel, feel free to respond to this with a sarcastic childish response instead of a logical, well reasoned answer.
 
There is a reason why prudent business people do not sell everything they own and invest it in an unproven business (or, at this point, business idea) on the other side of the world in China.

I am surprised at the number of people supporting this gentleman in his efforts. Yes, we all like the underdog to win . . . but, we should at least like the underdog to have the common sense to know how to spell properly, design a product without gawdy logos, treat ALL customers with respect even if they are criticizing your product, and have some realistic backup plan instead of throwing caution to the wind.

I'm not saying it can't be done - but everything I've seen from this guy points towards failure. And yes Mr. Angel, feel free to respond to this with a sarcastic childish response instead of a logical, well reasoned answer.

The days that the customers are always right are gone, treat people like you like you to be treated.period.

Customers are not always right.
 
There is a reason why prudent business people do not sell everything they own and invest it in an unproven business (or, at this point, business idea) on the other side of the world in China.

I am surprised at the number of people supporting this gentleman in his efforts. Yes, we all like the underdog to win . . . but, we should at least like the underdog to have the common sense to know how to spell properly, design a product without gawdy logos, treat ALL customers with respect even if they are criticizing your product, and have some realistic backup plan instead of throwing caution to the wind.

I'm not saying it can't be done - but everything I've seen from this guy points towards failure. And yes Mr. Angel, feel free to respond to this with a sarcastic childish response instead of a logical, well reasoned answer.

Exactly right

RunOverProducti - stop triple posting
 
Don't like the logo but if it's sleek like the apple case I am interested in seeing it. How long until the version without the logo will be released?

Ditto. I like the color of the leather, and from the small bit I could see of it, it looks like nice leather. But I am also uninterested unless it is offered without the big logo. I need to look professional, and big logos are too casual.
 
There is a reason why prudent business people do not sell everything they own and invest it in an unproven business (or, at this point, business idea) on the other side of the world in China.

Actually, stories like that are common, esp. in the Silicon Valley startup game. Quitting your day job, selling whatever possessions necessary, and hunkering down for 6 mos. to bring your vision to reality. Alot of these people go thru several failures before having a success. Surprisingly, they survive their failures. With great risks come great rewards.

The CEO of Quirky, who was originally the CEO of mophie, has a pretty amazing story - Essentially he was a highschool student with an idea. His parents supported him to the point where they mortgaged the house to supply him with $150k to manufacture lanyard headphones, he went to China to develop his idea... won best of show at MacWorld, $1.5M in venture funding, etc. At 23 he's a highly successful businessman on his 3rd company.

You can watch him explain it here - http://www.quirky.com/home/about

I have a couple friends who essentially lived on very little income for years. People would let them crash at their places, girls would buy them meals, provide transportation, etc. They created a large supportive social network thru picking up girls on Myspace/Facebook, they wrote an ebook on it, and it became successful enough that they went on to become professional dating coaches, had a weekly show on Maxim radio, great loft paid for by the company in NYC. Now one lives in a posh 2 bedroom condo on the Vegas strip, 38th floor, with his own coaching business, and the other one is enrolled at Columbia. They're both almost 30, but for most of their 20s they bummed around on very little, and learned how to be great with people, traveled the world several times in the process.

If you're married with a family without a doubt there are things you need, responsibilities you have to attend to. But young and driven? It's amazing on what little you can get by with.
 
I take it this is one case SchneiderMan won't be handed to review and later sell. :D

I think many would be fine with the case if it didn't advertise the company logo in such a poor manner.
 
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