Just a thought about this. If this were to happen, Apple probably will still just give us a small incremental increase in those two years instead of a larger upgrade. Apple being Apple. 🤪
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iPhone 16 Pro 16 Pro - WTF Were They Thinking?
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Really? I remember these same statements on 15, 14, 13. Just cherry pick whatever you like and you can shape the story whichever way you want. Truth is, it's still an iPhone. It's still expensive. It still doesn't require yearly upgrades.
I feel like they spent a little too much time talking about the AW Ultra 2 and AirPods Pro 2. They hyped up the AW Series 10 to be this brand new design in that short video beforehand just for it to look like every other Apple Watch.
I was briefly excited for that new 16 camera shutter thing, but after I realized all it is is a shortcut for things that can already be done, the excitement dropped off.
This was a pretty boring keynote in my opinion.
Apple can only rest on former glory for so long. I think this might be it… it’s still a good device, but it’s not really “better” than say a 15, 14 or 13. Perhaps even 12!
And people will always buy an iPhone for the first time and be happy for a multitude of reasons.
But anyone coming from a 12-15 will be “disappointed” as,they’ve spent a lot of money and it’s basically “identical” to what they had. Eventually people will start thinking why am I paying this much again?
So, let’s not start a schoolyard fight here, but…
A) I predict the 16/16 Pro will be their lowest volume phone in last 5-6 generations
B) People who do buy it will not be satisfied enough compared to how much they spent
C) AI will be exciting, but it won’t give enough ROI for the customers that it it will make the purchase satisfactory (AI will need iOS 18, 19 and 20 before it is valuable for the customer, by then it will be an expected function not a bonus function
And people will always buy an iPhone for the first time and be happy for a multitude of reasons.
But anyone coming from a 12-15 will be “disappointed” as,they’ve spent a lot of money and it’s basically “identical” to what they had. Eventually people will start thinking why am I paying this much again?
So, let’s not start a schoolyard fight here, but…
A) I predict the 16/16 Pro will be their lowest volume phone in last 5-6 generations
B) People who do buy it will not be satisfied enough compared to how much they spent
C) AI will be exciting, but it won’t give enough ROI for the customers that it it will make the purchase satisfactory (AI will need iOS 18, 19 and 20 before it is valuable for the customer, by then it will be an expected function not a bonus function
I felt like the 15 Pro update was a joke.
The 16 Pro is mainly about the camera, because it should have the same AI capabilities as the 15 Pro.
They didn't mention about the anti-reflective coating on the camera though. This is huge IMO.
The camera upgrades over my 14 Pro is kinda big. I will benefit because I love taking photos and I'm developing the skill constantly. And I want a better battery...
The 16 Pro is mainly about the camera, because it should have the same AI capabilities as the 15 Pro.
They didn't mention about the anti-reflective coating on the camera though. This is huge IMO.
The camera upgrades over my 14 Pro is kinda big. I will benefit because I love taking photos and I'm developing the skill constantly. And I want a better battery...
On the other hand, we have articles like this.
www.macstories.net
Users are starting to consider the non-pro iPhone models because they feel over-served by the more powerful iPhones. In short, smartphones are now at a point where they are "too good" for the user. I suspect Apple realises this too, and the challenge is not in simply chasing the spec race, but in coming up with new features that are actually meaningful to the end user.
Maybe I’m Not a Pro Anymore
Apple just wrapped up their September event revealing a bunch of updates to the Apple Watch, AirPods, and iPhone lineups, and I have only one major takeaway as a person who was absolutely, positively going to get the iPhone 16 Pro if it came in gold: I am seriously considering downgrading to the...
www.macstories.net
Users are starting to consider the non-pro iPhone models because they feel over-served by the more powerful iPhones. In short, smartphones are now at a point where they are "too good" for the user. I suspect Apple realises this too, and the challenge is not in simply chasing the spec race, but in coming up with new features that are actually meaningful to the end user.
They didn't mention it because most likely it's not new either, they just removed anti-lens flare coating from iPhone 15 spec comparison in yet another shady act.
And how you know it's big since even Apple didn't mention it? is there any review out there proving that?
I usually sell my iPhone each year on eBay just to get a new one. Now I use one credit card for everything which racks up points and I have a $440 Apple gift card that I'll use toward the new iPhone when I trade my 15 Pro in.
$999-520=$479x7%=$512-440=$72
I'll only pay $72 to upgrade from my 15 Pro to the 16 Pro
$999-520=$479x7%=$512-440=$72
I'll only pay $72 to upgrade from my 15 Pro to the 16 Pro
I can understand being annoyed by that, but is it really useless, now? Doesn’t it still do what it did when you bought it?
But do we have independent tests that confirm this? I still have my 5 year old 4G LTE XR and that battery (showing 84% health) still lasts me all day. I don't want to go backwards on that due to battery sucking and useless AI. As an aside, I recall when the 15 came out last year everyone was saying wait for the 16 for major upgrades. So I did. And here we are again with lame incrementalism. LOL. Although I really need to get a 5G and want better cameras so I will probably get one. But first, I will have a deep look at the Androids. I haven't had one of those since I had a Galaxy S3.
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Sad reality, regardless of what Apple announces, people will come to this board to complain over and over...and about every little thing.
You don't like what they announced, don't buy it and buy a competitors product.
You don't like what they announced, don't buy it and buy a competitors product.
If you're watching the 16 Pro segment and thinking 'this product isn't for me' then there is a good chance it isn't. Unlike others who just use Pro as a piece of branding, Apple seems to be actually adding professional features to its top-level phones to differentiate them in much the same way it does with its laptops.
Discounting the 5x camera for a second there isn't really a reason for the average buyer to have anything more than the base 16. This year it finally has macro, PS4 gaming and full AI. Its the equivalent of the 15 Pro in an arguably nicer-looking chassis.
I'd consider myself an enthusiast but I see no reason to buy the Pro model at all. The price difference alone would pay for an old DSLR and a 200mm lens that would take nicer shots than the Max 5x anyway.
Discounting the 5x camera for a second there isn't really a reason for the average buyer to have anything more than the base 16. This year it finally has macro, PS4 gaming and full AI. Its the equivalent of the 15 Pro in an arguably nicer-looking chassis.
I'd consider myself an enthusiast but I see no reason to buy the Pro model at all. The price difference alone would pay for an old DSLR and a 200mm lens that would take nicer shots than the Max 5x anyway.
Sure but they've made selling it much tougher once word of the AI features gets out. Us as loyal followers of every tidbit of Apple are a tiny minority.
Just disappointed as I now regret not stretching the wallet a bit more for the Pro.
Seems like these post happen every year. This and screen is more green or pink the last years. If you are unhappy with what apple showed then move on to something else that you think will make you happy. This time next year you will be making a post about how you coming back to iphone.
Yup it happens every year and I sadly got in trouble with the mods here for making a topic about it. But in short there will be people who upgrade yearly who will have buyers remorse once the "shiny new toy" factor wears off in the first two weeks. Then there will be topics with them angry at Apple for not having enough new features.
The iPhone 16 models are really targeted towards everyone who has a iPhone 14 or older given the fact that the big thing is Apple Intelligence and it's only coming to 15 pro models and all of the 16 models.
I have a 15 Plus so I had no intention of getting a new phone this year anyways but I'm disappointed in the new Pro phones. They still have the flat sides with sharp edges that will dig into your hand every time you hold the phone. Plus, they increased the weight of the 16 Pro by a lot instead of decreasing the weight or keeping it the same as the 15 Pro.
I would like to get a 17 Pro but only if they get the weight down considerably and round the edges so its not uncomfortable to hold like the current phones. I already have a phone that is uncomfortable to hold, why would I spend money on a new phone that has the same problems?
I would like to get a 17 Pro but only if they get the weight down considerably and round the edges so its not uncomfortable to hold like the current phones. I already have a phone that is uncomfortable to hold, why would I spend money on a new phone that has the same problems?