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Hello, i have weird case, iMac 2009(11,1), 880M with vBIOS, and my internal lcd didnt work, card works perfectly on external lcd, when i go to list of connected monitors, i didnt see internal lcd, but after pc goes to sleep(after some time, not by pressing button), it starts see internal lcd, backlight fires up, but the picture does not appear. I would appreciate your help!
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https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2011-imac-graphics-card-upgrade.1596614/post-29726164
 
What is the best GPU to use on the 2011 imacs with 6000 series AMD? Can any gpus be used with the 2 heatpipe method that also work with the 2011 imac with decent preformance?
Are we talking here about a 21.5" or a 27"? Because the answer will be different. So far from what I've seen the best MXM-A card (can use on all iMacs) that is compatible with macOS is the WX4150. If it's an MXM-B (27" only) card I think it is the WX7100, but you can't use a 2 heatpipe heat dissipator with an MXM-B card, it NEEDS to have the 3 heatpipes.
 
Are we talking here about a 21.5" or a 27"? Because the answer will be different. So far from what I've seen the best MXM-A card (can use on all iMacs) that is compatible with macOS is the WX4150. If it's an MXM-B (27" only) card I think it is the WX7100, but you can't use a 2 heatpipe heat dissipator with an MXM-B card, it NEEDS to have the 3 heatpipes.
27" with a 6770m (2 heat pipe)
 
Have you run geekbench 5, perhaps your CPU is throttling?

yes GB5 was the first thing I ran actually, but I wasn't sure about it...

gpu.png
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Full GPU Benchmark here (no result on depth of field!?)
 
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Flash back your own original vBIOS and try to boot. If it does not post/work you got simply a broken card and you should return it to the seller.
The original vBIOS will only work with safe mode boot into macOS (device ID 6929 is not supported by macOS).
So I have to use clip to reflash the bios ? Can I use bios from another same video card? I’m not sure that the seller saved original bios
 
As I suspected your CPU is being throttled hence your low valley score, for your 2011 i7 you score should look more like this:
View attachment 2061106
wow that's also double of my performance. o_O
any ideas what that might cause? could it be related to the gpu upgrade?
unfortunately I don't have a reference or benchmarks from before the upgrade

Here is the full CPU Benchmark.

I tried to install the Intel Power Gadget to get some data, but the app crashes before on start...
 
Flash back your own original vBIOS and try to boot. If it does not post/work you got simply a broken card and you should return it to the seller.
The original vBIOS will only work with safe mode boot into macOS (device ID 6929 is not supported by macOS).
Hi,
The S7100x does not have any video output. It relies on the intel (or AMD) IGPU to render graphics with the use of optimus (or AMD Enduro). Unless you found a BIOS that enables the video output or use the Intel IGPU as primary video render, you might not be able to use it on the MAC.
 
Hi,
The S7100x does not have any video output. It relies on the intel (or AMD) IGPU to render graphics with the use of optimus (or AMD Enduro). Unless you found a BIOS that enables the video output or use the Intel IGPU as primary video render, you might not be able to use it on the MAC.

By "video output", you meant the physical port on the card for video signal? (i.e to connect a cable). I assume all readers to this thread are aware that graphic card in MXM form don't have physical video output ports.

Or did you mean some settings inside the firmware (vBIOS) that prevent a combination of a Xeon CPU (w/o iGPU) with the S7100x on any PC?
 
wow that's also double of my performance. o_O
any ideas what that might cause? could it be related to the gpu upgrade?
unfortunately I don't have a reference or benchmarks from before the upgrade

Here is the full CPU Benchmark.

I tried to install the Intel Power Gadget to get some data, but the app crashes before on start...
Check you didn’t knock off L5500 ferrite near the cpu fan convector. very easy to do. Search the forum for L5500 for more info.
But yes it’s CPU related.
 
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By "video output", you meant the physical port on the card for video signal? (i.e to connect a cable). I assume all readers to this thread are aware that graphic card in MXM form don't have physical video output ports.

Or did you mean some settings inside the firmware (vBIOS) that prevent a combination of a Xeon CPU (w/o iGPU) with the S7100x on any PC?
Hi.
I mean that S7100x is a server based mxm module so it's BIOS does not allow video output on edp or any other ext display. It must rely on the Igpu display output, exactly like Tesla mxm boards.
Unless someone has a modified vbios that enable video output, I'm not sure that board is usable on mac. Although it works perfectly fine on any give laptop with Optimus (dell précision, hp zbook...)
 
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Hi.
I mean that S7100x is a server based mxm module so it's BIOS does not allow video output on edp or any other ext display. It must rely on the Igpu display output, exactly like Tesla mxm boards.
Unless someone has a modified vbios that enable video output, I'm not sure that board is usable on mac. Although it works perfectly fine on any give laptop with Optimus (dell précision, hp zbook...)
Have you recently checked the famous unknown documentation on hidden on the first post of this thread?

The S7100X can run in iMacs and can use the internal display, but there are a lot of problems with all GCN 1-3 dGPU models when used in iMac12,2 models. Now I am starting to repeat what we have tried to put into the docs.

BTW:
The iGPU within iMacs can not run the internal display!
 
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Check you didn’t knock off L5500 ferrite near the cpu fan convector. very easy to do. Search the forum for L5500 for more info.
But yes it’s CPU related.

I have checked the L5500 and it looks like its still there..?

l5500.jpg


going through some post I found this

Yes, it is gone. You could have seen this using HW Monitor and checking the ambient temp sensor. It will only show 129C - with is equivalent to no data.

its mentioned that 129°C indicates no data... so when Unigine was showing "GPU Temp 129°C" is that related to the iMac not recognizing the GPU temperature sensor or not receiving data? can that be fixed for the GPU to be recognized?

temps-png.2062033


all my temps look fine, no issues here - I am also still trying to get the power gadget to work on the machine but it always crashes and gives me this error

Process: Intel Power Gadget [1221]
Path: /Applications/Intel Power Gadget/Intel Power Gadget.app/Contents/MacOS/Intel Power Gadget
Identifier: com.intel.PowerGadget
Version: 3.7.0 (3.7.0)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: ??? [1]
Responsible: Intel Power Gadget [1221]
User ID: 502

Date/Time: 2022-09-14 15:33:29.555 +0200
OS Version: macOS 11.6.8 (20G730)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: 69E887F2-9F32-4B05-9116-98352A1EBD2E


Time Awake Since Boot: 650 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Application Specific Information:
*** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '-[__NSCFData _fastCStringContents:]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x60000041e0d0'
abort() called
terminating with uncaught exception of type NSException

Application Specific Backtrace 1:
0 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff205d18af __exceptionPreprocess + 242
1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00007fff2030abbb objc_exception_throw + 48
2 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff206543e8 -[NSObject(NSObject) __retain_OA] + 0
3 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff205399ed ___forwarding___ + 1448
4 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff205393b8 _CF_forwarding_prep_0 + 120
5 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff204ef86e CFStringCompareWithOptionsAndLocale + 314
6 IntelPowerGadget 0x0000000102937a55 UsePMU + 438
7 Intel Power Gadget 0x00000001027918a7 Intel Power Gadget + 22695
8 AppKit 0x00007fff22c67b74 -[NSCustomObject nibInstantiate] + 404
9 AppKit 0x00007fff22c67983 -[NSIBObjectData instantiateObject:] + 238
10 AppKit 0x00007fff22c670e2 -[NSIBObjectData nibInstantiateWithOwner:eek:ptions:topLevelObjects:] + 484
11 AppKit 0x00007fff22c5bb48 loadNib + 392
12 AppKit 0x00007fff22c5b154 +[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) _loadNibFile:nameTable:eek:ptions:withZone:eek:wnerBundle:] + 693
13 AppKit 0x00007fff22c5adaa -[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) loadNibNamed:eek:wner:topLevelObjects:] + 201
14 AppKit 0x00007fff22c5ab88 +[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) loadNibNamed:eek:wner:] + 394
15 AppKit 0x00007fff22c4d712 NSApplicationMain + 566
16 libdyld.dylib 0x00007fff2047af3d start + 1

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff2043091e __pthread_kill + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2045f5bd pthread_kill + 263
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff203b4406 abort + 125
3 libc++abi.dylib 0x00007fff20422ef2 abort_message + 241
4 libc++abi.dylib 0x00007fff204145fd demangling_terminate_handler() + 266
5 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00007fff2030d3d3 _objc_terminate() + 96
6 libc++abi.dylib 0x00007fff20422307 std::__terminate(void (*)()) + 8
7 libc++abi.dylib 0x00007fff20424beb __cxxabiv1::failed_throw(__cxxabiv1::__cxa_exception*) + 27
8 libc++abi.dylib 0x00007fff20424bb2 __cxa_throw + 116
9 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00007fff2030ace9 objc_exception_throw + 350
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff206543e8 -[NSObject(NSObject) doesNotRecognizeSelector:] + 132
11 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff205399ed ___forwarding___ + 1448
12 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff205393b8 _CF_forwarding_prep_0 + 120
13 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff204ef86e CFStringCompareWithOptionsAndLocale + 314
14 com.intel.framework.PowerGadget 0x0000000102937a55 0x102935000 + 10837
15 com.intel.PowerGadget 0x00000001027918a7 0x10278c000 + 22695
16 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22c67b74 -[NSCustomObject nibInstantiate] + 404
17 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22c67983 -[NSIBObjectData instantiateObject:] + 238
18 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22c670e2 -[NSIBObjectData nibInstantiateWithOwner:eek:ptions:topLevelObjects:] + 484
19 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22c5bb48 loadNib + 392
20 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22c5b154 +[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) _loadNibFile:nameTable:eek:ptions:withZone:eek:wnerBundle:] + 693
21 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22c5adaa -[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) loadNibNamed:eek:wner:topLevelObjects:] + 201
22 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22c5ab88 +[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) loadNibNamed:eek:wner:] + 394
23 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22c4d712 NSApplicationMain + 566
24 libdyld.dylib 0x00007fff2047af3d start + 1

Thread 1:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2045b420 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 2:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2045b420 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 3:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2045b420 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 4:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2045b420 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 5:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2045b420 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 6:: JavaScriptCore bmalloc scavenger
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff2042ccce __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2045fe49 _pthread_cond_wait + 1298
2 libc++.1.dylib 0x00007fff203c8e03 std::__1::condition_variable::__do_timed_wait(std::__1::unique_lock<std::__1::mutex>&, std::__1::chrono::time_point<std::__1::chrono::system_clock, std::__1::chrono::duration<long long, std::__1::ratio<1l, 1000000000l> > >) + 93
3 com.apple.JavaScriptCore 0x00007fff3782450b bmalloc::Scavenger::threadRunLoop() + 763
4 com.apple.JavaScriptCore 0x00007fff37823ee9 bmalloc::Scavenger::threadEntryPoint(bmalloc::Scavenger*) + 9
5 com.apple.JavaScriptCore 0x00007fff37826a77 void* std::__1::__thread_proxy<std::__1::tuple<std::__1::unique_ptr<std::__1::__thread_struct, std::__1::default_delete<std::__1::__thread_struct> >, void (*)(bmalloc::Scavenger*), bmalloc::Scavenger*> >(void*) + 39
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2045f8fc _pthread_start + 224
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2045b443 thread_start + 15

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x0000000000000000 rbx: 0x00000001050b3e00 rcx: 0x00007ffeed471478 rdx: 0x0000000000000000
rdi: 0x0000000000000103 rsi: 0x0000000000000006 rbp: 0x00007ffeed4714a0 rsp: 0x00007ffeed471478
r8: 0x00007ffeed471340 r9: 0x0000000000000000 r10: 0x0000000000000000 r11: 0x0000000000000246
r12: 0x0000000000000103 r13: 0x0000003000000008 r14: 0x0000000000000006 r15: 0x0000000000000016
rip: 0x00007fff2043091e rfl: 0x0000000000000246 cr2: 0x0000000104f8b000

Logical CPU: 0
Error Code: 0x02000148
Trap Number: 133

Thread 0 instruction stream not available.

Thread 0 last branch register state not available.


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anyone got an idea on why it crashes? is it because of the OCLP patches etc?

how else can I check what's causing the CPU to throttle?
of course physically check the CPU for damage and/or test it on another machine, but are there any other components that might cause issues?


thanks so far for the support
 

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I have checked the L5500 and it looks like its still there..?

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going through some post I found this



its mentioned that 129°C indicates no data... so when Unigine was showing "GPU Temp 129°C" is that related to the iMac not recognizing the GPU temperature sensor or not receiving data? can that be fixed for the GPU to be recognized?

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all my temps look fine, no issues here - I am also still trying to get the power gadget to work on the machine but it always crashes and gives me this erro

anyone got an idea on why it crashes? is it because of the OCLP patches etc?

how else can I check what's causing the CPU to throttle?
of course physically check the CPU for damage and/or test it on another machine, but are there any other components that might cause issues?


thanks so far for the support
- PowerGadget crashes because of OpenCore and the way it is disabling the iGPU and I will not help since you already know the CPU is crippled in some way
- Macs Fan Control does not show all temp sensors in exactly the same way as HW Monitor and other tools.
- The first post has a hardware problems section. You could have checked this days ago...this is possibly the most important hint.
 
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Huh. Guess that's what happened with my first project and never realized. No wonder the fans spun up immediately... I was never able to locate the sensor info on HW monitor though (as in, I couldn't locate the sensor showing 129°). Oh well, I no longer have that system.

My "fix" for that system was only a partial one, since it only worked on Windows: use ThrottleStop and disable BD PROCHOT.

EDIT: I never realized there was a HWMonitor app for mac 🙃, I kept thinking it was the Windows app. At least I'm learning more, haha.
 
- PowerGadget crashes because of OpenCore and the way it is disabling the iGPU and I will not help since you already know the CPU is crippled in some way
- Macs Fan Control does not show all temp sensors in exactly the same way as HW Monitor and other tools.
- The first post has a hardware problems section. You could have checked this days ago...this is possibly the most important hint.
I see, I wanted to have a graph to see when it throttles but whatever - the CPU should not be broken or anything its just not able to boost for some reason. AHT didn't show any errors, I went through most of the things here already.

I have read a good amount of posts (including yours) on multiple threads here and also ifixit but they always go back to the same issue of L5500 - which doesn't seem dead to me - temperatures have been check on multiple tools.
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like I said, its only the GPU that shows 129°C - the only thing I didn't do is to move the ODD sensor on the GPU and see if it still throttles. or does this "missing" sensor not affect the SMC to allow CPU boost? since it is not mentioned in your post #9,047 , that relocating the ODD sensor to the GPU will solve this.

also in regards to testing, your link to a specific ASD version for 2011 iMacs ASD has only the docs but not the actual software?
 
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anyone got an idea on why it crashes? is it because of the OCLP patches etc?

how else can I check what's causing the CPU to throttle?
of course physically check the CPU for damage and/or test it on another machine, but are there any other components that might cause issues?


thanks so far for the support
To get intel power gadget working:

1. Use any tool or terminal commands you are comfortable with to mount the EFI partition. I use opencore configurator.
2. Use "proper tree" app (or any other tool you prefer) to open the config.plist file (located inside /EFI/EFI/OC folder).
3. Delete the line that says "IONAME... String....#display" under device properties.
4. Save changes in config.plist. (File --> Save)
5. Reboot.

After the reboot your intel power gadget should be working.
 

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To get intel power gadget working:

1. Use any tool or terminal commands you are comfortable with to mount the EFI partition. I use opencore configurator.
2. Use "proper tree" app (or any other tool you prefer) to open the config.plist file (located inside /EFI/EFI/OC folder).
3. Delete the line that says "IONAME... String....#display" under device properties.
4. Save changes in config.plist. (File --> Save)
5. Reboot.

After the reboot your intel power gadget should be working.

thanks for the explanation! it worked! :D

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also the CPU seems to work fine now, GPU is also scoring as it should

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I guess the performance is now ok, the only thing that is bothering me is a a high pitched sound that appears to become more frequent & intense, but I can't locate it exactly... 🥲

update: it actually stopped before the iMac went to sleep (dimmed lcd) so I tried to play around with the brightness and it is absolutely causing the noise! so if I turn down the brightness no sound....

I'd like to point out that once I got BS installed and using the EFI folder generated by the micropatcher iMac edition, I got a high pitch noise.

My iMac has a K1100 which works just great, so on the config list it adds the backlightfixup.kext and also creates a device ID for it.

Well if this helps anyone, in order to get rid of that noise I disabled the next and delete the entries for the backlight device manually on the config.plist.

After that the noise is gone.

*Also the telematrap.kext for this processor is not needed, actually it slows the iMac down.

can someone confirm that this approach (also) works in the 2011 iMac 27"?
 
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I didn't want to have any more problems with my 6970m. I just wanted it to work.

It would have been enough for me to use it as an integrated gpu.
I unplugged a transistor from the back of the gpu and re-inserted it in my imac.
Now the 6970 can no longer use the dedicated vram, but only the system one, as if it were an integrated gpu.
The performances are very low in 3d, but it works perfectly for the 2d.
Obviously the temperatures are very low and the use of the gpu is always at a minimum.
For the 2d is perfect, and is normally recognized by the OS.
It works in target display mode
It works by connecting the 2 outputs to 2 other screens (3 screens in total)
In short, for my uses it is perfect and I don't think it will ever break again.
(it had gone into the oven twice already and i was tired)
 
Hello everyone,

I've been reworking the K3100M ROM and the related blackscreen issue/boot loop issue that some of you have been dealing with. As @Ausdauersportler mentioned, it could be related to an interaction between the bootrom and the efi driver. Apple added a security update, 2020-005 and then 2020-006 which could be breaking some compatibility at least in the IM12,2 (2011) generation, although they kept the same bootrom version after the 2020-006 update:
Bootrom: 87.0.0.0.0
SMC version: 1.72f2

I'm currently running my modded rom in a test machine (iMac 27", 2011, High Sierra 10.13.6)
It is working well, no black screen upon driver initialization now and login screen should be present upon reboots.
It survives a PRAM reset as well
I added this line to the AppleGraphicsDevicePolicy.kext under the ConfigMap key:
Code:
<key>Mac-942B59F58194171B</key>
<string>none</string>
but I'm not sure it is necessary for High Sierra.

Anyhow, the results are very encouraging:
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If a few others who own a K3100M could test the ROM out on a 2011 machine (or other machines), I'd appreciate the feedback. As far as I can tell, it should work well with the -BFR and/or -AFR variants, but I could be wrong. I'll update the main K3100M rom page with the new ROM to keep our iMacs working "insanely great!"
Enjoy!

**update**
4-22-2021 - [K3100M_V4.rom] Updated rom to allow for Elpida memory to be used.
I dumped my stock BIOS for the K3100m, and its 166kb instead of the 256kb the new ones are. I'm guessing something is wrong here. Am I doing something wrong or is it fine? I don't want to flash anything until I'm sure, and because while I do have a CH341A programmer, the clips don't fit around the weird bios chip package.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, I looked up the bios chip online, its 2mbit which should be 256kb, so it's not that it's incompatible.
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.414.0) Simplified Version For OEM Only Adapter: Quadro K3100M (10DE,11B6,1028,15CD) H:--:NRM S:00,B:02,D:00,F:00 Identifying EEPROM... EEPROM ID (C2,2012) : MX MX25L2005 2.7-3.6V 2048Kx1S, page Reading adapter firmware image... IFR Data Size : 1044 bytes IFR CRC32 : 18ED6828 IFR Image Size : 1536 bytes IFR Image CRC32 : 10823B23 IFR Subsystem ID : 1028-15CD Image Size : 168960 bytes Version : 80.04.E8.00.1C ~CRC32 : F33D0CFF Image Hash : E6E93DC70A23BDD126AFCB13E5F96827 Subsystem ID : 1028-15CD Hierarchy ID : Normal Board Chip SKU : 960 Project : 2053-0501 CDP : N/A Build Date : 11/13/13 Modification Date : 01/07/14 UEFI Support : Yes UEFI Version : 0x10028 (Nov 7 2013 @ 17238399 ) UEFI Variant Id : 0x0000000000000104 ( GK1xx MXM ) UEFI Signer(s) : Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011 InfoROM Version : N/A InfoROM Backup Exist : NO License Placeholder : Absent GPU Mode : N/A Saving of image completed.
 
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I dumped my stock BIOS for the K3100m, and its 166kb instead of the 256kb the new ones are. I'm guessing something is wrong here. Am I doing something wrong or is it fine? I don't want to flash anything until I'm sure, and because while I do have a CH341A programmer, the clips don't fit around the weird bios chip package.
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.414.0) Simplified Version For OEM Only Adapter: Quadro K3100M (10DE,11B6,1028,15CD) H:--:NRM S:00,B:02,D:00,F:00 Identifying EEPROM... EEPROM ID (C2,2012) : MX MX25L2005 2.7-3.6V 2048Kx1S, page Reading adapter firmware image... IFR Data Size : 1044 bytes IFR CRC32 : 18ED6828 IFR Image Size : 1536 bytes IFR Image CRC32 : 10823B23 IFR Subsystem ID : 1028-15CD Image Size : 168960 bytes Version : 80.04.E8.00.1C ~CRC32 : F33D0CFF Image Hash : E6E93DC70A23BDD126AFCB13E5F96827 Subsystem ID : 1028-15CD Hierarchy ID : Normal Board Chip SKU : 960 Project : 2053-0501 CDP : N/A Build Date : 11/13/13 Modification Date : 01/07/14 UEFI Support : Yes UEFI Version : 0x10028 (Nov 7 2013 @ 17238399 ) UEFI Variant Id : 0x0000000000000104 ( GK1xx MXM ) UEFI Signer(s) : Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011 InfoROM Version : N/A InfoROM Backup Exist : NO License Placeholder : Absent GPU Mode : N/A Saving of image completed.
Everything is fine, just the tool you are using to dump is fetching only the non-zero bytes. All vBIOS we provide here are padded with zeros to allow clip and software flashing. Just use the Linux tool mentioned in the FAQ to save the original version and write the new version.
Clip flashing will only work with most/all AMD cards and a few NVIDA cards like the K610, K1100M, K2100M. All others need software flashing.
 
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thanks for the explanation! it worked! :D

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also the CPU seems to work fine now, GPU is also scoring as it should

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I guess the performance is now ok, the only thing that is bothering me is a a high pitched sound that appears to become more frequent & intense, but I can't locate it exactly... 🥲

update: it actually stopped before the iMac went to sleep (dimmed lcd) so I tried to play around with the brightness and it is absolutely causing the noise! so if I turn down the brightness no sound....



can someone confirm that this approach (also) works in the 2011 iMac 27"?
Rewrite a new OCLP config (which will break PowerGadget, again), test CPU and GPU performance, then delete the IONAME line from the new config and redo both tests and check - of course - the Intel PowerGadget, again.

Just want to be 100% sure the OCLP config at this point can cause such trouble.
 
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Hi

Hi.
I mean that S7100x is a server based mxm module so it's BIOS does not allow video output on edp or any other ext display. It must rely on the Igpu display output, exactly like Tesla mxm boards.
Unless someone has a modified vbios that enable video output, I'm not sure that board is usable on mac. Although it works perfectly fine on any give laptop with Optimus (dell précision, hp zbook...)

Thank you.
I will try it when I have some time to assemble the S7100x to my HP USDT 800G1. It has 1 DP dedicated for the MXM graphic card. The manual also states that it needs a CPU with iGPU to function.
But anyway, this thread already provides the vBIOS modded by the experts for eDP output on the iMac.
 
About installing AMD GCN cards:
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  8. GCN4 Polaris cards like WX4130/WX4150/WX4170/WX7100 work in iMac12,x without any problem other than the known loss of one external display port (the one close to the network port). This port can be still used for Thunderbolt devices.
  9. You need a WX7100 Ver 1.1 card to use it in the iMac12,2. There is no hardware fix known. The RX480 does not post in the iMac12,2 at all (it is an Ver 1.0 card, too).
All this has been described in great detail on the first post and the vBIOS posts linked in from there.
First of all thanks for this amazing thread! I have recently received a nonworking iMac 2011 27" as a gift, resurrected it and I am currently considering as a next step upgrading the GPU. I am focusing on either a WX4150 (Dell branded) or a WX7100 (Dell branded v.1.1) for this matter. From post #1 I deduced that both cards should run without problems. They should POST, etc. But recently I stumbled upon the sleep/wake issue related to iMac 12.2 (2011) machines and I am unable to sort out, if it occurs also with GCN4 Polaris WX4150 or WX7100 cards. There are way too many posts related to the sleep/wake issue and they sometimes contradict each other.

The post from @Ausdauersportler says, that there are no problems other than the loss of one external display port with GCN4 Polaris cards.

Could someone please confirm if GCN4 cards in iMac12,2 have sleep/wake issues? (After upgrading from High Sierra and while running OCLP or similar).

Thanks!
 
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First of all thanks for this amazing thread! I have recently received a nonworking iMac 2011 27" as a gift, resurrected it and I am currently considering as a next step upgrading the GPU. I am focusing on either a WX4150 (Dell branded) or a WX7100 (Dell branded v.1.1) for this matter. From post #1 I deduced that both cards should run without problems. They should POST, etc. But recently I stumbled upon the sleep/wake issue related to iMac 12.2 (2011) machines and I am unable to sort out, if it occurs also with GCN4 Polaris WX4150 or WX7100 cards. There are way too many posts related to the sleep/wake issue and they sometimes contradict each other.

The post from @Ausdauersportler says, that there are no problems other than the loss of one external display port with GCN4 Polaris cards.

Could someone please confirm that/if GCN4 cards in iMac12,2 have sleep/wake issues? (After upgrading from High Sierra and while running OCLP or similar).

Thanks!
Please identify the posts with contradictions you found. Happy to correct these.
 
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