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2011 iMac speculation

ugru said:
Yes you can....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct1_r_61sk8

:D
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i think that the touchscreen will become reality very soon ,why else would apple merge OSX and iOS as all these iOS features supposed to come with OSX Lion really only make sense with a touchscreen and make no sense at all with only magic mouse or magic trackpad ...big icons easy to touch
and apple is the last of the computer manufacturers who has no touchscreen model
 
MacHamster68 said:
i think that the touchscreen will become reality very soon ,why else would apple merge OSX and iOS as all these iOS features supposed to come with OSX Lion really only make sense with a touchscreen and make no sense at all with only magic mouse or magic trackpad ...big icons easy to touch
and apple is the last of the computer manufacturers who has no touchscreen model
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Steve already said in the intro for the magic trackpad they did testing and people don't like to touch a screen like the iMac or Macbook head on when it's vertical or mostly vertical. Also, a 27" touch screen would be astronomically expensive. Sorry, I don't see this coming.
 
there will be no touch screen but the facetime camera will be able to recognize motion...If you move your arm from right to left it will be like CMD+TAB for example... This would be an awesome feature !

All :apple: users will feel like Jedis ! :cool:
 
MacHamster68 said:
i think that the touchscreen will become reality very soon ,why else would apple merge OSX and iOS as all these iOS features supposed to come with OSX Lion really only make sense with a touchscreen and make no sense at all with only magic mouse or magic trackpad ...big icons easy to touch
and apple is the last of the computer manufacturers who has no touchscreen model
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Why else? Because I would love to see auto-saving, smart app closing, prettier interface and whatnot even without a touch screen.

And that last argument is just silly.
 
What's more logical would be to link your iPad to the iMac as an alternative input device/control device. Perhaps in the form of an iMac controller app for it?

Can't see a 27" iMac touchscreen would be that useful, I would tire of it very quickly doing my intensive Photoshop and InDesign work on it.
 
syc23 said:
What's more logical would be to link your iPad to the iMac as an alternative input device/control device. Perhaps in the form of an iMac controller app for it?

Can't see a 27" iMac touchscreen would be that useful, I would tire of it very quickly doing my intensive Photoshop and InDesign work on it.
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that is actually not a use for a touchscreen , touchscreen is for simple input
and why would anybody buy a iPad to control the iMac

and there is this little gadget apple has patented
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2010/08/the-mother-lode-welcome-to-the-imac-touch.html
so the patents are there, the hardware too , so apple could launch production tomorrow and sales next week
 
Hellhammer said:
There won't be 6-core Sandy Bridge CPUs until Q4 2011 and those will likely be too hot for iMacs (130W).
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Lets be honest mate we never thought we would be seeing quad core in the McBook Pro's until next year...... So never say never...

I think, it'll keep the superdrive, because it can, have increased SSD and HDD sizes, much more powerful graphics, increased ram capacity to 24gb?
Higher res screens maybe. Erm, not sure what else? I think user changeable SSD and HDD would be nice. Thunderbolt, USB 3 maybe, smaller overall design. Possibly a touch scren option but I think Lion will give clues to that one.
 
apolloa said:
Lets be honest mate we never thought we would be seeing quad core in the McBook Pro's until next year...... So never say never...
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Quad core was plausible all the time. I said MBPs will get quad core months before the update happened. All 15" and 17" models getting quad core was a surprise, albeit a pleasant one though.

It's not just the CPU that requires more power. X58 has TDP of 28.6W while P55 has TDP of 4.7W. LGA 2011 parts will use X68 and it's TDP is TBA but since it's the successor of X58, it will be quite a lot compared to P67 (6.1W).

Power hungrier parts will also need a bigger and hotter PSU to keep the power supply steady.

increased ram capacity to 24gb?
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Sandy Bridge supports up to 32GB. OWC is already selling 8GB modules for 800$ each.
 
apolloa said:
Lets be honest mate we never thought we would be seeing quad core in the McBook Pro's until next year...... So never say never...

I think, it'll keep the superdrive, because it can, have increased SSD and HDD sizes, much more powerful graphics, increased ram capacity to 24gb?
Higher res screens maybe. Erm, not sure what else? I think user changeable SSD and HDD would be nice. Thunderbolt, USB 3 maybe, smaller overall design. Possibly a touch scren option but I think Lion will give clues to that one.
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For the 2011 iMac refresh I am not expecting a redesign. Its going to be much like the MBP refresh. Faster processors, HD facetime, thunderbolt, better graphics. What I do hope for is the introduction of a 3rd size. A smaller one in the 17" range at a starting price of $899.
 
I want onboard SSD as standard on 2011 iMac just for boot disc !! 64Gb should be enough for OSX and some important app

Why they just put it on MBA?!!
But really, this thread no longer about speculation, it's become our request and dreams for the next iMac :p
 
iSayuSay said:
Why they just put it on MBA?!!
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Because that is the only storage in MBA and people who buy MBAs don't need more. iMac would require a two-disk setup (SSD+HD) which can be hard for an average user. People would most likely fill the SSD very quickly as the Home folder is there and then wonder why is everything so damn slow when they have a 2TB drive with zero bytes in it.

If Apple somehow customized the OS X to work better with two disks (Home folder in HD as default, locked SSD...) so that every average Joe would know how to handle it, then it might be plausible. Or use Z68's SSD caching.

Offering SSD as a BTO is much easier choice for Apple. People who buy it most likely know how to use it.
 
Hellhammer said:
Because that is the only storage in MBA and people who buy MBAs don't need more. iMac would require a two-disk setup (SSD+HD) which can be hard for an average user. People would most likely fill the SSD very quickly as the Home folder is there and then wonder why is everything so damn slow when they have a 2TB drive with zero bytes in it.

If Apple somehow customized the OS X to work better with two disks (Home folder in HD as default, locked SSD...) so that every average Joe would know how to handle it, then it might be plausible. Or use Z68's SSD caching.

Offering SSD as a BTO is much easier choice for Apple. People who buy it most likely know how to use it.
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and there i see the problem , the OS has to take over where the brain should work , i mean its nice if working on a computer gets easier , but i have seen it in recent years , more and more people have not even remotely a clue how their computer works , .. putting in a disc and start a game is the most common use of a computer today and most get already into a dead end when it comes to settings for that specific game
if you tell somebody to use simple things like ...terminal commands , most dont even know what that is ...possibly a army command center in a airport or so :D

a computer can only be as fast and as effective as the nut in front of the display is , even the best operating system cant replace the brain of the nut in front of the display , and making the computer even faster doesn't solve the problem..ok adding thunderbold port would solve the problem of different ports so people dont have to think about how to get that usb connector in the firewire port :rolleyes:
 
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27" will have the latest i7 quad core with two clock speeds 2.8 at 1999 and 3.4 at 2199

Hopefully we'll see a return of the 24" with these two i7 quad core processors as well for 1199 and 1499 respectively

and the 21" will drop to 999 with a dual core i5 or something like that. ATI graphics all around. The real question IMHO are SSD options...will they be affordable?
 
MacHamster68 said:
and there i see the problem , the OS has to take over where the brain should work , i mean its nice if working on a computer gets easier , but i have seen it in recent years , more and more people have not even remotely a clue how their computer works , .. putting in a disc and start a game is the most common use of a computer today and most get already into a dead end when it comes to settings for that specific game
if you tell somebody to use simple things like ...terminal commands , most dont even know what that is ...possibly a army command center in a airport or so :D
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That is pretty much what I meant. Apple has been all about simplicity and making things as easy as possible. A two-disk setup is far from that. Yeah, it's easy for us who know what they are doing but we only represent a fraction of the iMacs' user base. Most people are average consumers who don't have a clue about computers and they are probably not willing to tweak their computers as much as we are. They just want things to work.

Sirmausalot said:
http://www.intel.com/consumer/products/processors/compare-processors.htm

Will they bother with the integrated graphics chip of, the 2600 series even though most of the time people won't use the lower end graphics or will they use the 900 series chips? Thoughts and speculation please.
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Apple will just use a dedicated GPU in all iMacs, just like now. The current dual core iMacs have an Intel IGP as well but it is not used.

i7 900-series is old, slow and hot, no reason why Apple would use that instead.

Sirmausalot said:
27" will have the latest i7 quad core with two clock speeds 2.8 at 1999 and 3.4 at 2199
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i7-2600S (2.8GHz) costs more than i7-2600 since it has lower TDP. There will only be one i7 in 27" iMacs, and that is the i7-2600. Other models will most likely carry quad core i5s and the low-end would use a dual core i3.
 
Hopefully someone at Apple is working quietly to get a hot new mini out because that's what I'm waiting for. I would imagine new imacs are not too far away.
 
Opspin said:
And what to they need the chin for? I can't see what's down there that can't be moved a little, one would thing that Steve Jobs saw it as paramount to match the iMac up with the CinemaDisplays, someone mentioned the speakers taking up a lot of space, fair enough, but they don't look all that big to me in the teardown. I'd rather have an iMac half a centimeter thicker than have a chin.
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You obviously have never taken an iMac to pieces... no way is that "chin" going to disappear fast.

All you stuff is mere fantasy but for Thunderbolt which will mean fluck all to most people
 
I didn't have a chance to see if any one posted about the GPU, but what do you guys think the next GPU solution will be for the top end?

Right now the top 27" has a ATI 5750...so does it seem accurate to assume they will have the 6750 for the next revision? Or do you think they will maybe include the 6950/6970? That would be awesome.
 
DeusInvictus7 said:
I didn't have a chance to see if any one posted about the GPU, but what do you guys think the next GPU solution will be for the top end?

Right now the top 27" has a ATI 5750...so does it seem accurate to assume they will have the 6750 for the next revision? Or do you think they will maybe include the 6950/6970? That would be awesome.
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Actually the top iMac has a ATI Mobility Radeon 5850, based on this I think it will have the AMD Radeon HD 6850M, If it got a AMD Radeon HD 6950M I would be so happy
 
CaoCao said:
Actually the top iMac has a ATI Mobility Radeon 5850, based on this I think it will have the AMD Radeon HD 6850M, If it got a AMD Radeon HD 6950M I would be so happy
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AMD changed their naming scheme. 69xx is the successor of 58xx. There wasn't even 59xxM cards and 68xxM is just renamed 58xxM.
 
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