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You don't pay much attention ...
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I can't stand him since he bashed Alonso.
Wow! Boring Lewis, but fantastic Botas defending against Kimi fantastic defending.. Strol and Williams are going to be ones to watch if they can get a faster engine.. they I think are one of the few mid fielders to get a podium this year.. Sauber are utterly bringing it too with that Ferrari engine..
Ferrari this weekend got creamed basically.. I didn't see the qualifying but as I understand they utterly lost it in the wet, unfortunately for Ferrari Lewis a a wet driving God! More or less..
Oh man these mid fielders just need a bit more power and they can challenge third place!
Drivers of the day, Botas for his awesome defending moves and Ricardo for coming from 15 to 4th..
I want to see next year a battle between Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull, Sauber and Williams ALL for the front spots and wins.
However... if McLaren can get a good Renault engine.. they could definitely be up there, the team has the talent as does Alonso..
[doublepost=1504459829][/doublepost]Just watched the interview with Strol for Williams and they have Mercedes engines! They are getting an upgrade before the next race. I want to see Williams up there able to challenge Red Bull and the others, such a long standing team.
Sigh still doesn't match the days of Senna and McLaren for me...
Ferrari this weekend got creamed basically.. I didn't see the qualifying but as I understand they utterly lost it in the wet, unfortunately for Ferrari Lewis a a wet driving God! More or less..
Oh man these mid fielders just need a bit more power and they can challenge third place!
Drivers of the day, Botas for his awesome defending moves and Ricardo for coming from 15 to 4th..
I want to see next year a battle between Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull, Sauber and Williams ALL for the front spots and wins.
However... if McLaren can get a good Renault engine.. they could definitely be up there, the team has the talent as does Alonso..
[doublepost=1504459829][/doublepost]Just watched the interview with Strol for Williams and they have Mercedes engines! They are getting an upgrade before the next race. I want to see Williams up there able to challenge Red Bull and the others, such a long standing team.
Sigh still doesn't match the days of Senna and McLaren for me...
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Yeah the Ferrari's were really nowhere - especially Kimi. Mercedes don't do so well in Singapore so maybe we'll see something in two weeks, but I think this is when the season changes direction and Lewis goes on to his 4th WDC.
Considering how horrible the Honda engine is, I am surprised Toro Rosso is considering taking it to allow McLaren to get Renault power. Seems counter-productive to me since TR would immediately become a back-marker just based on the projected component failure rate (DNFs and Grid Penalties) whereas they at least are mildly competitive now (if they can get a decent driver to replace Kvyat that would help).
Considering how horrible the Honda engine is, I am surprised Toro Rosso is considering taking it to allow McLaren to get Renault power. Seems counter-productive to me since TR would immediately become a back-marker just based on the projected component failure rate (DNFs and Grid Penalties) whereas they at least are mildly competitive now (if they can get a decent driver to replace Kvyat that would help).
Had to wait for the highlights. Wasn't too many.
RBR would have been on the podium for sure without the penalties. I wonder if they can mix it up with the Mercs and Ferraris in Singapore. Hope so.
I think Palmer is off Alonso's Christmas card list!
I'd have liked to have seen Stroll or Ocon on the podium though.
RBR would have been on the podium for sure without the penalties. I wonder if they can mix it up with the Mercs and Ferraris in Singapore. Hope so.
I think Palmer is off Alonso's Christmas card list!
I'd have liked to have seen Stroll or Ocon on the podium though.
But as the Red Bull junior team, one would think they shouldn't need the money. I know they lost a lucrative sponsorship with Cepsa in 2015, but Dietrich Mateschitz / Red Bull is not exactly hurting for cash to fund them.
I can understand Sauber's original interest as they're just hanging on at the time and getting a free engine (plus other sponsorship considerations) could have been a life-saver for them. But Toro Rosso has been 7th in the WCC the past few years and is currently in 6th. Swapping to Honda could put them at the back now that Sauber could be getting current-spec Ferrari engines next year and McLaren becoming far more competitive with Renault power.
The Honda engines come with about £100 million sponsorship. And let's be honest, they are going to get it right at some point (or pull out)!
TR might see it as a worthwhile exercise. If Honda do become a decent package, they would easily be able to switch the RBR team to that package. With Renault out classed by Mercedes and Ferrari engines, it could be a gamble RBR might be prepared to take with TR.
What spec of Renault engine is TR running? The same as the factory team or the "tweaked" units that RBR is running under the Tag Heuer brand?
And would Honda be interested in working with RBR's engine guys to improve performance reliability?
Honda wouldn't want to work with RBR engine guys (Renault). But if Honda became competitive, it would suit RBR as they have been looking for a competitive engine for a while. A RBR with a Mercedes team would most likely beat the factory team. They no that which is why they won't supply them.
Fred is mad at Jolyon?
https://wtf1.com/post/fernando-alonso-really-doesnt-like-jolyon-palmer/
the video:
Alonso: “Where’s Palmer?”
Engineer: “He’s retired”
Alonso: “Karma”
lol.lol.lol.
https://wtf1.com/post/fernando-alonso-really-doesnt-like-jolyon-palmer/
the video:
Alonso: “Where’s Palmer?”
Engineer: “He’s retired”
Alonso: “Karma”
lol.lol.lol.
I made that prediction under the assumption that Ferrari's lack of qualifying pace was because Mercedes was gambling on a wet-optimized setup and Ferrari wasn't, and that gamble is usually a horrid failure on a high-speed track like Monza if it's dry on race day. The prediction turned out to be wrong, at Monza Ferrari appeared to be much slower in all conditions than Mercedes, which I had not expected due to their competitiveness in earlier races.
Hamilton, followed by Ricciardo and then Bottas.
So think that wraps up the WDC for Lewis as his lead is now 28 points and the remaining races should favor the Mercedes (who are now guaranteed the WCC).
I doubt he saw Raikkonen charging up on Verstappen on the opposite side and was just moving to defend the entry into the corner (plus considering the condition of the track, traction might have been an issue).
Given the circuit and conditions, the race was unlikely to be won at the first corner, and the racing line was the other way.
A decision I think he'll live to regret.
A decision I think he'll live to regret.
Vettel fully deserves to have a race ban for what he's done, every single person or commentator has stated he had NO reason to pull over like that and take everyone out, and then to reverse up the track spitting fluids everywhere is just downright dangerous and totally careless and wreck less. That could of taken others out alone!
I do not like him. More fool him though as his chance of winning this year is even further away now.
I do not like him. More fool him though as his chance of winning this year is even further away now.
And yet that is what happened.
Vettel really had to do a hero lap to take pole from the RBRs in the dry and I would not at all surprised that with the rain he felt that if Max got ahead of him he would stay ahead of him.
Well no action is to be taken against the Ferrari driver for taking everyone out...
If the crash was caused by Max, going by the history this year of penalties I feel confident in saying they would of punished him. Vettel however apparently already has several points on his racing license and once you reach 12 I think, you get a racing ban.
Oh well he has pointlessly further removed himself from winning this year, idiot, commentators said Kimi would now need to take points of Lewis for Vettel to have a chance, and considering he's no where near as fast as Lewis, unless he rams him off the track, I can't see that happening.
If the crash was caused by Max, going by the history this year of penalties I feel confident in saying they would of punished him. Vettel however apparently already has several points on his racing license and once you reach 12 I think, you get a racing ban.
Oh well he has pointlessly further removed himself from winning this year, idiot, commentators said Kimi would now need to take points of Lewis for Vettel to have a chance, and considering he's no where near as fast as Lewis, unless he rams him off the track, I can't see that happening.
Some crazy driving from Vettel at the start and he apologised pretty quickly on the radio. Ferrari must have discussed the incident with him when he got back though before we heard the truly bizarre accusation levelled at Max.
I've watched the incident a few times now and I'm with just about everybody on the planet apart from Ferrari when I say I can't see a single element that suggests Verstappen did anything wrong? Vettel has quite a history chopping across people and he often comes off worse yet every so often he does it. He did it to his teammate in turkey and crashed out. He did it to Hamilton at Silverstone in copse and had his rear tyre slashed pitting him to the back of he field. He did it to Alonso at Monza and had a very bumpy high speed run across he dirt. I think it's about time the lad learned from this.
Anyway, an interesting race with a lucky but welcome outcome for Hamilton. Hopefully this will drive Vettel to try harder and we end up with a proper championship showdown!
I've watched the incident a few times now and I'm with just about everybody on the planet apart from Ferrari when I say I can't see a single element that suggests Verstappen did anything wrong? Vettel has quite a history chopping across people and he often comes off worse yet every so often he does it. He did it to his teammate in turkey and crashed out. He did it to Hamilton at Silverstone in copse and had his rear tyre slashed pitting him to the back of he field. He did it to Alonso at Monza and had a very bumpy high speed run across he dirt. I think it's about time the lad learned from this.
Anyway, an interesting race with a lucky but welcome outcome for Hamilton. Hopefully this will drive Vettel to try harder and we end up with a proper championship showdown!
vettel? how is he to blame? racing incident between max and kimi and really max might be to blame.
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