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Yeah - I really have to have LTE support though so most of the discounts or sales dont apply. Ill have to shop around and see what comes up. Id like to try the 2017 model against the 2018 myself to see and feel the real difference.

2GB RAM was expected, I know. Thats apple, right? ;)
I hear ya. The discounts for refurb/used are usually biggest on the highest capacity LTE models.

For what it’s worth, I don’t see a difference between a 2017 Pro 12.9 (A10X), Pro 9.7 (A9X), 2017 iPad (A9) and Air 2 (A8X) for typical usage (web browsing, email, video streaming, etc).

Iirc, even the iPhone 8 only has 2GB RAM and that’s more than double the price of this iPad. Still, it’s a better situation compared to the days when we had to make do with 128-256MB. Back then, frequent app crashing was a regular occurrence due to running out of memory. I’ve also had apps that I’d need to delete and reinstall so I’d lose appdata after firmware or app update because RAM is insufficient to handle internal conversions performed by the update.
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Anyone have geekbench scores for the 2018 iPad?
There should be a screenshot a bit earlier in this thread. Iirc, it’s around 3200 single-core and 5800 multi-core.
 
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Oh I guess I’m just so lazy about this release I haven’t looked since not in the market :p
In fairness, the primary market for this aren’t ones who would actually care about benchmarks. They’d just buy whatever lower cost iPad is on offer. It’s actually good that Apple’s been providing annual CPU refresh thus far instead of going 2+ years between updates as they did with the iPod Touch.
 
Oh I guess I’m just so lazy about this release I haven’t looked since not in the market :p

Here ya go, i ran benchmarks for the iPad 2017, iPad 2018, iPad Pro 10.5... That’s all the iPad i have...

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This is iPad 2017 CPU Benchmark (A9)

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This is iPad 2018 CPU Benchmark (A10)

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A9 GPU Benchmark

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A10 GPU Benchmark

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A10X CPU Performance


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iPad Pro 10.5 (A10X) GUP

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You can see, the A10X is almost double the performance of A9 Processor and 50% faster than A10 processor. The A10X’s GPU is 1.7X powerful than A9 and 1.2X powerful than A10.

If you compare with A9 with A9X, the CPU performance is about 24% difference. The A10 compare with A9X is about 12% difference. The actual performance gap is not significant at all.

Geenkbench is one thing. iPad 2017 never felt slow in beginning with. Everyday tasking actually makes no visible difference. This entire post was editing on iPad 2017.
 
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12 percent gain over a9x?

I’d rather take the battery life dip and go with 9.7 pro if I could find a cheap one for 4 speakers and delicious p3 True Tone display
 
12 percent gain over a9x?

I’d rather take the battery life dip and go with 9.7 pro if I could find a cheap one for 4 speakers and delicious p3 True Tone display

Well... 2018 iPad is not that significant of update from 2017 iPad at all. Going from A9 to A10 is not big of difference. Only thing that make this iPad worthwell is Apple Pencil support, yet this iPad does not have laminated displaying, this would make noise when Apple Pencil poking on the screen.
 
Just received our two iPad 6th Gens via UPS this morning. These are replacing some ancient iPad 2's for dev testing and trade shows! Took them out of box and placed into some TPU cases.

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Hello! Do you have a pencil? In someone else's review they were using a different kind of stylus and saying it made a loud tapping noise on the screen. I went and tried one out in a shop yesterday and when I wrote on the screen in Notes, it was silent for me and pretty smooth. Mind you, I rarely tap on screens.

I think it would be good to get feedback from someone able to use the actual Apple Pencil as it might help other people to make up their minds. I'm not getting one as I already have a 10.5, but was checking it out as I've been recommending it to others. After seeing that review, I was worried.

Thank you.
 
Just got the iPad today at the Apple Store. Got the pencil too. So far I am enjoying it, but I do notice the laminated display.

Edit: This is not scientific by any means but I think you can kind of see how the laminated display and Apple Pencil go together in my video at time 5:40ish
. I don't have an iPad pro to test, but is this a result of the laminated display?
 
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Hello! Do you have a pencil? In someone else's review they were using a different kind of stylus and saying it made a loud tapping noise on the screen. I went and tried one out in a shop yesterday and when I wrote on the screen in Notes, it was silent for me and pretty smooth. Mind you, I rarely tap on screens.

I think it would be good to get feedback from someone able to use the actual Apple Pencil as it might help other people to make up their minds. I'm not getting one as I already have a 10.5, but was checking it out as I've been recommending it to others. After seeing that review, I was worried.

Thank you.


If you look at this video and compare the sound between two iPads. You will hear that the 2018 iPad will have louder noise when Apple Pencil tapping on the screen.

I do not have the Apple Pencill, therefore i used Walcom Fineline 3 Stylus for my video. The none laminated display will produce louder noise than one with laminated one. You can try to tap the screen with your finger, you can tell the difference.

But i will buy one Apple Pencil later.
 

If you look at this video and compare the sound between two iPads. You will hear that the 2018 iPad will have louder noise when Apple Pencil tapping on the screen.

I do not have the Apple Pencill, therefore i used Walcom Fineline 3 Stylus for my video. The none laminated display will produce louder noise than one with laminated one. You can try to tap the screen with your finger, you can tell the difference.

But i will buy one Apple Pencil later.
Meh, the sound bothers me either way. Besides, the Apple Pencil on iPad (regardless of model) doesn’t feel as nice as pen/pencil on paper, either, so I still prefer regular notebook plus pen/pencil.
 
Meh, the sound bothers me either way. Besides, the Apple Pencil on iPad (regardless of model) doesn’t feel as nice as pen/pencil on paper, either, so I still prefer regular notebook plus pen/pencil.

Well... I always wanted to take digital note while I was in school. Does not matter what devices you use, when you have some stylus made out of plastic and it poking on glass, you will hear noise. But the noise is very apparent with this iPad.

However, I do enjoying using my fountain pen and write in my paper. Jist feel great about writing in paper.
 

If you look at this video and compare the sound between two iPads. You will hear that the 2018 iPad will have louder noise when Apple Pencil tapping on the screen.

I do not have the Apple Pencill, therefore i used Walcom Fineline 3 Stylus for my video. The none laminated display will produce louder noise than one with laminated one. You can try to tap the screen with your finger, you can tell the difference.

But i will buy one Apple Pencil later.

Thank you for that. It was actually very funny. I watched it and said to myself 'I don't tap like that.' Then I got my pro out to test and found out that actually I do. Not as much as them, as it's only to make full stops etc, but it definitely is audible from time to time.

I might be strange, but I've been perfectly happy to switch to making notes on a screen. I like the fact you can switch pens/colours/thicknesses/highlight etc without ruining a nice piece of paper. My diary is a paper one and feels right. I also prefer writing my schedule and appointments in a very small diary I keep in my bag rather than using the calendar app or something. So, basically the pro with a pencil is the perfect balance of digital and analogue for me.
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Just got the iPad today at the Apple Store. Got the pencil too. So far I am enjoying it, but I do notice the laminated display.

Edit: This is not scientific by any means but I think you can kind of see how the laminated display and Apple Pencil go together in my video at time 5:40ish
. I don't have an iPad pro to test, but is this a result of the laminated display?

Thank you. I enjoyed that. When I first had a go of the pencil, I was in raptures - you're maybe harder to impress than me.
 
Thank you for that. It was actually very funny. I watched it and said to myself 'I don't tap like that.' Then I got my pro out to test and found out that actually I do. Not as much as them, as it's only to make full stops etc, but it definitely is audible from time to time.

I might be strange, but I've been perfectly happy to switch to making notes on a screen. I like the fact you can switch pens/colours/thicknesses/highlight etc without ruining a nice piece of paper. My diary is a paper one and feels right. I also prefer writing my schedule and appointments in a very small diary I keep in my bag rather than using the calendar app or something. So, basically the pro with a pencil is the perfect balance of digital and analogue for me.
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Thank you. I enjoyed that. When I first had a go of the pencil, I was in raptures - you're maybe harder to impress than me.
Lol I will admit the first time I used the pencil I was really impressed. However using it at the Apple store so many times within the last year has seemed to desensitize me! Now it’s impressive we can use it on a $300 device ;)
 
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Lol I will admit the first time I used the pencil I was really impressed. However using it at the Apple store so many times within the last year has seemed to desensitize me! Now it’s impressive we can use it on a $300 device ;)

By the way, there were always cheap tablet that has stylus support out of box. One of the most impressive technology I saw was Lenovo Chromebook, where you using actual pencils (Like the HB Pencil you can buy from Walmart or dollar stores). And the price is around $219. It is full packaged laptop with keyboard, you just fold the screen and writhing with actual HB Pencil.

Anyway, I decided to write something on the iPad with Apple Pecnil and compare with writing on actual paper with Fountain pen. Granted, that I am not good at writing.

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I still think that I write better with pen and paper. Though my handwriting is not good at all.

P.S. I just brought the Apple Pencil 3 hours ago. After 3 hours of use, I found myself wanting to return the pencil. Still not really comfortable using stylus and still default to paper when taking notes. I have 2 weeks time to decide.
 
so, from what ive tested, to this ipad 2018, the users that has ipad air 1 or older
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By the way, there were always cheap tablet that has stylus support out of box. One of the most impressive technology I saw was Lenovo Chromebook, where you using actual pencils (Like the HB Pencil you can buy from Walmart or dollar stores). And the price is around $219. It is full packaged laptop with keyboard, you just fold the screen and writhing with actual HB Pencil.

Anyway, I decided to write something on the iPad with Apple Pecnil and compare with writing on actual paper with Fountain pen. Granted, that I am not good at writing.

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I still think that I write better with pen and paper. Though my handwriting is not good at all.

P.S. I just brought the Apple Pencil 3 hours ago. After 3 hours of use, I found myself wanting to return the pencil. Still not really comfortable using stylus and still default to paper when taking notes. I have 2 weeks time to decide.
yep but the adva writing on the ipad is that you have that digital, so you can send it, save it, have it on the cloud or
mark etc
 
If you prefer your writing to look smaller, you can also zoom while you write and then let it go back to normal size when you've finished. I used to do that when I was writing new vocabulary because it looks prettier, but I stopped because it was too much trouble. I write pretty small anyway and got used to spacing etc over time. There are also some apps that give you lined paper to write on to keep your writing under control if you prefer it.
 
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I'm in school and I'm getting iPad 2018 with Apple Pencil so that I can write my notes (active learning).

My classmates tend to share notes, but because they write on paper, they have to take pictures in order to be able to share the notes. The time it takes to take over 100 pictures of notes, not to mention the extras on the pictures such as the sofa as the background where the pictures were taken, it's just messy.

Also, I would like my handwritten notes digital so that I can revise using one item, the iPad. I have handwritten notes with about 50 to 100 double sided A-4 pages per subject, so it's quite a pain to flip pages while I'm on the bus etc, not to mention heavy to carry. I study about 3-4 subjects per semester.

iPad will allow me to have my handwritten notes and my textbooks handy.
 
By the way, there were always cheap tablet that has stylus support out of box. One of the most impressive technology I saw was Lenovo Chromebook, where you using actual pencils (Like the HB Pencil you can buy from Walmart or dollar stores). And the price is around $219. It is full packaged laptop with keyboard, you just fold the screen and writhing with actual HB Pencil.

Anyway, I decided to write something on the iPad with Apple Pecnil and compare with writing on actual paper with Fountain pen. Granted, that I am not good at writing.

K9d7zmO.png


HXGSaDL.jpg


I still think that I write better with pen and paper. Though my handwriting is not good at all.

P.S. I just brought the Apple Pencil 3 hours ago. After 3 hours of use, I found myself wanting to return the pencil. Still not really comfortable using stylus and still default to paper when taking notes. I have 2 weeks time to decide.
Normally I don't put screen protectors on my iPads but the glare and fingerprints on my 12.9 Pro were very distracting. I applied a good quality matte screen protector on it. Not only does the screen look terrific (text is crisp and no shimmering that happens with some matte protectors) but it adds a little "bite" to the screen and dampens the sound slightly that improves the Apple Pencil experience for me.
 
Normally I don't put screen protectors on my iPads but the glare and fingerprints on my 12.9 Pro were very distracting. I applied a good quality matte screen protector on it. Not only does the screen look terrific (text is crisp and no shimmering that happens with some matte protectors) but it adds a little "bite" to the screen and dampens the sound slightly that improves the Apple Pencil experience for me.

I have matte screen protector on my iPad Pro as well. I get the iClear one from Amazon and it was good. But regardless, I am still not use to writing on a piece of glass rather than using my beloved fountain pen and paper.

I will try Apple Pencil in 14 days and decided if I will return one.
 
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For me the greatest value I find in taking notes on my iPad Pro vs on paper is no matter how many pages of notes I take my iPad never gets any thicker and I never lose the notes that I took on it. LOL
 
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Seeing as it has a 2016 processor not sure geek bench scores is something people will bring up
 
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